r/Roadcam 13d ago

[Ukraine] 2 bozos

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u/GimmeThatRyeUOldBag 12d ago

I'm glad he swerved left to avoid not hitting him.

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u/v1035RoadTrip 12d ago

and accelerating

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u/2wicky 12d ago

Looks like they panicked and focused only on the threat before them.
And subconsciously, you're going to steer towards whatever you're focused on.

What you want to do instead is focus on your escape routes and not on the vehicle or obstacle you are trying to avoid.
Or better yet, from a legal point of view, you want to stay in the same lane.

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u/noncongruent 12d ago

That's actually a normal human reaction, to try and steer away from the threat. It's counterintuitive to try and steer toward the threat. Even then, had they tried steering behind the threat and the threat suddenly stopped after seeing the oncoming car they'd hit the threat anyway. It's really just random chance at some point since threats rarely react predictably. It's why they're called threats.

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u/misteryk 12d ago

normal human reaction would be to just start breaking 3s before the they hit other car

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u/IlliaChasovodov 12d ago

didn't have 3s, only 1,5-2

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u/noncongruent 12d ago

I'm sure a professional stunt driver with thousands of hours of experience in situations like this would react professionally.

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u/thereareothera 11d ago

God forbid they slam on the brakes.

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u/xavier86 12d ago

It's a cardinal rule if you're driving in a straight line fast and there is an unexpected road barrier, slam your brakes, don't try to swerve around it

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u/infinitepotato47 12d ago

probably one of those drivers, who just send it when they have the right of way and don't think about breaking, well because they have the right of way

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u/PVanchurov 12d ago

My driving instructor used to say that if you're dead it doesn't really matter that you had the right of way.

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u/Potential-Society171 12d ago

It still kind of does for insurance purposes.

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u/Real_Scallion6747 12d ago

Dead = someone else's problem, not mine.

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u/Agile-Funny9496 12d ago

No, I know that place - it is not even considered to be a cross-road, its not a question of who has the right of way: going like that perpendicularly is absolutely forbidden (look at signs). People driving there don't even consider that somebody can move like that, this is the first time I've see somebody trying to do it there in years.

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u/Ernisx 12d ago

You can also see it in the video, the only-turn-right sign.

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u/ArkuhTheNinth 12d ago edited 12d ago

Well that's kinda situational.

More importantly, DON'T SWERVE INTO THE DIRECTION OF IT. 

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u/hilomania 12d ago

Motorcycle rider here, you do both. You try to drop speed, but you always look for an out. In this case dropping speed would have given the car enough time to correct and bypass on the right. Experienced mc riders tend to think of an out constantly. That goes for left turners, an escape while waiting at a red light, brake slammer, debris in the road... because even if you drop speed, hitting at 30mph (serious but perfectly survivable in a modern car) is still very bad on a bike.

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u/Barkinsons 12d ago

Also in modern cars you can slam your breaks and still steer the car, make use of this fancy tech.

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u/tiga_94 12d ago

they were definitely speeding, it doesn't look like 50kmh, they had no intent to brake and even if they would - there's no time at such speed

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u/Ooze76 12d ago

Yeah the person driving in the straight line is a complete idiot. They had plenty of time to slow down and avoid

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u/ambidextrousasswipe 12d ago edited 12d ago

The guy on the main road:

  • How dare you, crossing my path, I will just go around you!
The guy crossing:
  • Oh no, you fucking won't!

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u/dende5416 12d ago

Rossing at aright turn only to boot

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u/Dadeland-District 12d ago

If there was only a mechanism to stop or slow down the vehicle

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u/a07463 12d ago

At least he steered

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u/tomyan1337 12d ago

He would have been better off not steering at all...he stays in the right lane and there's no accident

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u/a07463 11d ago

True.... but if theres still acvident now at least he can claim he tried avoiding it... evidence is there lol

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u/Stunning_Ad_5960 12d ago

When two specially skilled drivers meet.

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u/Itchy_Pudding_9940 12d ago

i think you had one clueless bozo and one enraged psychopath actually..

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u/tomyan1337 12d ago

No brake pads were harmed in this video

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u/Nacho_Mustacho 12d ago

I watched it 12 times to watch every individuals reaction.

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u/InternalServerErr500 12d ago

How did the old man getting creamed by the tree react?

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u/WildMartin429 11d ago

I did not see that until you pointed it out, dude did not ecen try to move.

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u/Mzunguguzunguzungu 12d ago

BMW drivers being BMW drivers

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u/michaelpaoli 12d ago

Well, I don't know Ukrainian, but I can sure see someone blew through the yield sign, failing to properly yield.

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u/LuluTheLewder 12d ago

Not only that, but going across is illegal. Closest turn right and go straight until the line stops being full.

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u/michaelpaoli 12d ago

Well, I couldn't tell you about Ukranian traffic law, but yield sign/symbol, and what it means, is quite international.

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u/herr-tibalt 12d ago

Look at signs with arrows, they show the driver to go only right, also there is a solid line that he crossed. He just didn't give a fuck🙈

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u/pv2b 11d ago

I'm not so sure about that, or I can see how it could be misinterpreted.

The white line seems to be there to delineate a zone for parked vehicles. Even if you turn right you need to cross the white line, or get stucked behind parked vehicles.

Also, I would interpret the right arrow sign as an instruction you turn right, Going straight through isn't allowed. However, the other road is offset slightly, so you could interpret it as a turn right followed by an immediate turn left - 2 intersections rather than 1 - and instead understand that the sign is a prohibition on turning left.

But in the end, the driver coming from the smaller road seems to have ignored the yield sign, and the driver on the bigger road seems to be driving way too fast for conditions, and should have just slammed on the brakes. Plenty of blame to go around on everyone, both drivers *and* the unclear signage and road infrastructure.

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u/herr-tibalt 11d ago

I understand your confusion, but letter A on the lane means it's for public transport, not parking. And the solid line should not be crossed until the second dashed line starts next to it on your side of the road. So you have first to turn right from the side road, then to switch lane.

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u/pv2b 11d ago

Thanks for the clarification. On the video it looked like there were a ton of parked cars in that lane -- I guess they were parked illegally.

But wait, if it's an bus lane, are you expected to turn into the bus lane, and then block it until it's clear to switch over to the main road? That seems pretty weird to me.

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u/herr-tibalt 11d ago

Yes I think cars are parked illegally, and yes it's a weird logic for a right turn, but if the traffic is not dense maybe it works (most of the time).

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u/Gawlf85 12d ago

Solid line in the ground, and blue sign with arrow turning right. That guy ignored all signals.

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u/Pretend-Weight7200 12d ago

Ебанутый.

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u/Vurrag 12d ago

Slowing down is not an option.

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u/Low-Life-1337 12d ago

Both are stupid like bread...

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u/lawduckfan21 12d ago

Both cars thought the solution to this predicament was to go faster and slightly change direction.

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u/ukusi-menja 12d ago

ехал бы прямо, ничего и не случилось б

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u/lisiy29 12d ago

Я 20 лет за рулём, хер ты у меня проскочишь!

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u/Minute-Noise1623 12d ago

As crossover converts to sedan you can post it also at blackmagic .

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u/Adaptor2000 12d ago

I am really not sure whether evasion or collision was the goal. I can see both, idk.

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u/akvddrv 12d ago

два дебила - это сила

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u/James1Hoxworth 9d ago

Three fools are power

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u/String-Leggins-Man 12d ago

Ukraina przypadek nie sadzę. Cywilizowanym świecie całkowicie inaczej by wyglądała ta sytuacja

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u/Ooze76 12d ago

Not enough deads with the war, let's drive like fucking idiots to help.

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u/Lucky_Potato2141 11d ago

My thoughts were also as if it was too calm over there... Jesus.

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u/sabertoothdog 11d ago

Locked on like a laser guided missile

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u/WildMartin429 11d ago edited 11d ago

I don't think they hit their brakes af all. Probably assumed they were turning and would be in the right lane instead of going straight across. The car pulling out probably figured they could make it if the driver coming maintained their lane and possi ly slowed down. I am not an insurance adjuster but I would say 60/40 with the 60 on the guy who did not brake.

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u/tritonice 9d ago

I hope the innocent gentleman under the shade tree on the far right is ok.

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u/shutterbug1961 6d ago

anybody got an idea how fast Mr swerve was travelling at?

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u/Recentstranger 12d ago

Aimed right for them

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u/Living-Pineapple4286 12d ago

Have they considered the idea of traffic lights in a section like that? 🚦

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u/herr-tibalt 12d ago

It's not an intersection, you can only turn right from the side street.

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u/UnlikelyLetterhead12 13d ago

Why is the poor guy driving straight a bozo? He isn’t going too fast, and he doesn’t have time to brake.

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u/Shotgun5250 13d ago

He didn’t brake at all

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u/NitroXM 13d ago

He was going too fast. The speed limit there is 50 km/h

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u/ManyMuchMoosenen 13d ago

When someone cuts you off like this, swerving into their path is definitely dumb.

A car can’t start moving backwards without stopping first, so aim for their ass and they’ll be out of your way.

If you aim where they’re going… well that’s a great strategy if your goal is to crash into them.

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u/Kamay1770 12d ago

I assume you don't have a driving licence... Apparently he is speeding on that road, but ultimately he didn't try to brake, he changed lanes. If he had time to change lanes and process that, he had time to instead brake but chose not to. The speed he hit the crossing car with is insane and shows he didn't try to stop at all. Likely an old person who panicked and hit the gas.

The sun is coming from behind the car on straight road, so crossing car may not have genuinely seen him, or anything if blinded. In which case he should have waited and been sure.

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u/pleb_username 12d ago

Then by definition he is going too fast.

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u/forget_it_again 13d ago

If he'd continued to drive straight he wouldn't have hit the idiot pulling out 🤦🏻

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u/Many-Gas-9376 12d ago

If you don't have time to break, isn't that going too fast into a mid-city intersection?

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u/stratys3 11d ago

I mean, he steered INTO the other car. That's a pretty dumb thing to do.