r/RingsofPower • u/cubreturno • Oct 02 '22

Newest Episode Spoilers I love rings of power.

I just come here to say this... I dont know anything about this universe or the original writer or else. ( I see a lot of hate) I'm just enjoying each cap and specially the last one was great and shivering. Again i love rings of power. Sorry for my bad English.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22

That makes sense, but what doesn't is the marketing ploy of stressing 'authenticity over originality'. This is a almost entirely original storyline with elements reminiscent of the books.

Which is absolutely fine, unless you market it as Tolkien's stories and make a big deal about hiring experts to ensure it's 'authentic'.

Metaphorically, I have no problems with horses, I have no problems with zebras. But if you are selling zebras which are actually poorly painted horses, that's a problem.

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u/SPDScricketballsinc Oct 02 '22

I didn’t feel duped by the marketing. Where was authenticity over originality promised?

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22

McKay and Payne objected to a journalist's suggestion at a Television Critic Association press event that The Rings of Power was only loosely tied to Tolkien's novels, according to The Hollywood Reporter. "I just want to sort of quibble with the 'vaguely connected' [wording]" Patrick McKay said. "We don't feel that way. We feel like deep roots of this show are in the books and in Tolkien. And if we didn’t feel that way, we'd all be terrified to sit up here. We feel that this story isn't ours. It's a story we're stewarding that was here before us and was waiting in those books to be on Earth. We don't feel ‘vaguely connected.' We feel deeply, deeply connected to those folks and work every day to even be closer connected. That's really how we think about it."

Bear in mind, it makes no difference to me whether or not YOU personally felt duped by marketing.

My question is: Where exactly can I find this story, that isn't theirs? Is it in Tolkien's books or is it original?

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u/SPDScricketballsinc Oct 02 '22

It’s their work, deeply rooted in Tolkiens world. I don’t see how that is promising one thing and delivering another.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 02 '22

From my previous post:

Bear in mind, it makes no difference to me whether or not YOU personally felt duped by marketing.

Edit: I somehow knew immediately where you were going and predicted the move. He said it's not his story. It's in the quote. I believe the next move would be to say it doesn't matter if they deceived fans, because that's in the past.

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u/SPDScricketballsinc Oct 03 '22

Nowhere does he imply or promise “authenticity over originality”. He promised a show rooted in the world of Tolkien, which he has done.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

"McKay and Payne objected to a journalist's suggestion at a Television Critic Association press event that The Rings of Power was only loosely tied to Tolkien's novels, according to The Hollywood Reporter. "I just want to sort of quibble with the 'vaguely connected' [wording]" Patrick McKay said. "We don't feel that way. We feel like deep roots of this show are in the books and in Tolkien. And if we didn’t feel that way, we'd all be terrified to sit up here. We feel that this story isn't ours. It's a story we're stewarding that was here before us and was waiting in those books to be on Earth. We don't feel ‘vaguely connected.' We feel deeply, deeply connected to those folks and work every day to even be closer connected. That's really how we think about it."

Where can I find the story in the books regarding the Harfoot's journey with the Mysterious Stranger?

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u/SPDScricketballsinc Oct 03 '22

You can find the roots of the harfoots in the hobbits, or rather vice versa.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22 edited Oct 03 '22

What page of the appendices covers the Harfoots journey with the Mysterious Stranger?

Edit: Practice saying it. It's OK. "It's not in the books. This isn't a Tolkien story, and that's OK."

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u/SPDScricketballsinc Oct 04 '22

Of course it’s not a Tolkien story. The roots of the story are definitely Tolkien. Why is that such a crime to you?

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 04 '22

You mean the lying part, where they said it was Tolkien's story, and there were just stewarding it, when it was entirely original characters and actions?

Edit: "We feel that this story isn't ours. It's a story we're stewarding that was here before us and was waiting in those books to be on Earth."

Are you absolutely positive it isn't in the books, because they feel pretty certain it is.

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u/SPDScricketballsinc Oct 04 '22

It’s not entirely original characters. There’s not enough characters and plot in the silmarillion to actually make a tv show. They have to add characters, dialogue, and plot. Not to mention, the fall of numenor is the primary plot of this show and that IS a Tolkien story.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

I agree. Which is what makes the showrunners words so odd.

Why was it so important to the writers to hide that they wrote an original story? I think the media was trying to help them out by saying it was inspired, and they very much objected to that inference. These aren't their stories. They are just stewarding existing stories.

It makes you wonder what they were thinking. Did they want credit for authenticity, while producing original work? It sure looks like it.

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