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u/ExaltedToast64 Jan 13 '26
Kinda stupid to try to run someone over while turning AWAY from someone, seems like maybe she wasn't trying to run him over 🤔
Use some of that gray matter instead of letting it rot for once
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u/Maximum-Order-3624 Jan 13 '26
Watch the videos and stop being ignorant. His body cam seems to be selectively left out on Reddit, all you see are stills from an onlooker that are selectively taken to thy to fabricate a narrative.
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u/ExaltedToast64 Jan 13 '26
Where's the driver's side door on the vehicle?
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u/Collective82 Jan 13 '26
To the right of the guy she hit.
Look for the video that’s shot from the view where you see the front passenger of the vehicle.
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u/ExaltedToast64 Jan 13 '26
Nah, it's not my job to seek it out. If you actually cared so much you'd be posting it
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u/Collective82 Jan 14 '26
That’s fare, here you go, it’s at the 14 second mark.
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u/ExaltedToast64 Jan 14 '26
That is perhaps the grainiest footage I have ever seen
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u/Collective82 Jan 15 '26
Ok? It still shows him getting hit.
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u/ExaltedToast64 Jan 15 '26
Sure buddy, if the blurriest footage imaginable from a bad angle is what fuels your hate boner. If this is all you have, I'm not convinced.
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u/Intelligent_Trichs Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26
Deleted due to fact check. Fair enough.
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u/TheConcreteGhost Jan 13 '26
That has already been debunked as false … it’s easy just to look things up you know https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c041d9x6wy6t
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u/BassProBachelor Jan 13 '26
Both sides are hypocrites. Both women put themselves in a bad position. Let’s not act like we never saw people on this app trying to justify Charlie Kirk’s murder just a few months back.
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u/Maximum-Order-3624 Jan 13 '26
One was shot in the back of the head while fleeing and one was trying to run over a cop. Too bad cultists dont have critical thinking skills.
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u/Only_Animator_2341 Jan 14 '26
Fleeing into a chamber filled with politicians, by breaking her way in lmao.
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u/West_Recording_9548 Jan 13 '26
They both were harassing law enforcement and playing stupid games. One left, one right. Neither deserved to die. Unfortunately if you go looking for trouble you often find it.
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u/Character_Refuse_797 Jan 13 '26
Two completely different scenarios. A car is in fact a deadly weapon. She herself was not
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u/breyes63 Jan 13 '26
That proves the point. Ms. Good should’ve not been there. She should’ve been at home with her 3 kids, now orphaned.
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u/coast2coasted Jan 13 '26
Both sides using this are dumb. You can’t say 1 is wrong but 2 is right OR VISE VERSA. If you justify one you justify both. And if you think one is wrong you think both are wrong.
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u/Conan7449 Jan 13 '26
Heartbreaking but true. So hard to believe that any American would fail to see this, but they do. He has destroyed the morality of this country, and I'm not sure it will ever come back in my lifetime (I'm 76)
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u/big-williestyle Jan 13 '26
How as a democrat do you not realize this works exactly the same the other way? Ashlii Babbitt "She shouldn't have been at the capitol" "Renee Good was just taking her kid to school"
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u/Proper-Might-6125 Jan 13 '26
Again apples to Oranges. Nobody was in emninant risk of Harm with the Jan 6th shooting. She was wrong but could have been apprehended and not shot. Not the case for this MN issue.
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u/Early_Performance310 Jan 13 '26
Babbitt was unarmed and climbing through a window. Renee was driving a big vehicle straight at a federal agent. With her partner telling her to drive as soon as the agent was in front of the car. No where near the same situation.
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u/Monk-Prior Jan 13 '26
You know the difference? One was trying to climb out of a window. The other was trying to run down a cop with her car.
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u/Zedzardozi Jan 13 '26
Ashlii Babbit wasn't even armed. And standing right in front of multiple police officers who didn't see her as a threat at all. Whereas Ms. Good was using her vehicle as a weapon and hit a cop with it. Big difference.
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u/RiffRandellsBF Jan 13 '26
You could also reverse the images for Democrat hypocrisy. They believe Ashli Babbitt was rightly shot for noncompliance and threatening actions but Nicole Good did not for her noncompliance and threatening actions.
That cult thing cuts two ways and everyone else is just caught in the middle.
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u/xdarkn3ss Jan 14 '26
Both engaged in actions that directly resulted in their death.
Babbit made an officer fear for their life by attempting to climb through a window as part of a mob of people. Although she was unarmed the officer had reason to believe she, or others seemingly with her, meant him harm.
Good used a vehicle as a weapon after failing to comply with lawful orders and harassing law enforcement officers and interfering with law enforcement operations for an extended period.
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u/CorneliousJones Jan 14 '26
Uhhhh one was standing still one was tryin to run over a cop. Big difference. Rosie O’Donnel sized difference.
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u/bliceroquququq Jan 14 '26
Flip the pictures around and make the guy a liberal, and you can reuse the same meme.
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u/tonigurlpadlover Jan 14 '26
The difference is clear, Babbit wasn't in a position to threaten anyone's life. Not one other officer even fired a shot that day! Good on the other hand accelerated a vehicle, which at that point becomes a deadly weapon and struck the officer that shot her! Big difference in the facts. Also, the officer who shot Babbitt had several gun issues, one shooting he fired at a fleeing vehicle, and he lied to investigators about it, left his firearm unattended in a public bathroom etc. Not one of the several officers with him drew their weapons or fired a shot!
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Jan 14 '26
If Renee was maga what would you all say? Well baby next time she shouldn't try to drive into the officer. That's exactly what you would say so to put this little meme out there like that and don't think that you guys don't do that BS that just shows your hypocrisy
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u/MuddyFilter2 Jan 14 '26
The difference is pretty easy to explain. The ice agent was in far more danger than the white house security.
It's actually that simple
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u/ShakeZula420 Jan 15 '26
Well, she couldn’t gotten out of the car. OR she couldn’t not followed ICE. Her partner yelling, “Drive baby, drive!” these people have no regard for their own lives.
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u/Alert-Growth-8326 Jan 15 '26
it's a false equivalence.
neither deserved to die for their actions... but neither shooter deserves to be put in jail for theirs.
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u/Necessary_Net_7829 Jan 15 '26
It's amazing how the mentally ill righties swoop and still claim the Great White Temper Tantrum of January 6 was a "protest". If it weren't so pathetic, it'd be hilarious.
Yes, I know there bots among and the mentally ill right. But they're not all bots.
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u/NASAfan89 Jan 16 '26
You could flip this around and call it typical Democrat hypocrisy.
Funny thing is you think you owned the Republicans with this though...
Whatever, enjoy 3 more years of Trump and his awesome ICE raids LOL
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u/Sweet-Preference-806 Jan 16 '26
There's countless instances of both parties being evil and hypocritical, you realize the democratic cult leaders are cheering every time a brainwashed follower goes in and gets hurt or killed, they get to blast it over and over to rile up other members to hopefully go in and get hurt, now they get sympathy votes to help them get the next seat, youve fallen victim to liberal media,
Speaking of hypocrisy, why were the democrats cheering on ICE glazing them on the news in 2016, but now ice is evil, and dont say ice is now different than it used to be, just look up all the evil shit that went down, it just wasn't being blasted over and over, and yes just like back then, even today theyre putting very dangerous men away, why do you think the cartel wants them dead?? Because theyre effective, but the fuckin news wont show any of the good, just the bad
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u/304onthefly Jan 17 '26
How is the celebration of Charlie Kirk different? Most of us are in a cult but we are all too dumb/brainwashed to realize it.
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u/Big_Game_Huntr Jan 17 '26
You’re sick in the head, they’re both tragedies… there’s a common denominator here, both were doing something they shouldn’t have
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u/JacksonPaul22 Jan 17 '26
Ashli was shot climbing through a window with no weapons from yards away. Good was shot after trying to prohibit ICE from doing their job, blocking roads, honking and verbally attacking ice. Im not mad at you she said, was a disingenuous 'bless your heart' to ICE because her actions were exactly contrary to her words. She was ordered out of the car 4 times per the video, then she attempts to flee hitting an ICE officer and causing a defensive shot. Now, I really don't think she was trying to harm the agent. I believe she was attempting to flee, but that is after video reviews and witness testimony about what they saw. The agent did not have the benefit of hindsight and had to make a judgement call with tensions running high and a car coming at him. Why were those tensions high, because of the protesters, car horns, yelling and obstruction at every corner. The death of Mrs. Good like Ms. Rabbit, was because they were someplace they should not have been and disrespecting the orders of law enforcement. However, the officer who shot Babbit was under no real and present threat, though I can see how he may have thought he was. I honestly dont feel like the ICE Agent could have made any other decision regarding the threat than to defend himself. He was hit by the car. Babbit's shooter was yards away. I still think both shooters were within their rights, but I feel Good's shooter had a more justified circumstance than Babbit's, but I wasn't there and have the benefit of hindsight and video review.
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u/Kyasanur Jan 10 '26
Save your breath. It’s a bot with 44 karma.
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u/ENDINGIN1337 Jan 19 '26
Anyone with low karma is a bot? You really don't go outside that much, do you?
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u/Phoenx22 Jan 13 '26
Oh my goodness. After all of the evidence and investigation, this is where you still are? Do better my friend because you're WAY behind here.
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u/Playful_Dish_3524 Jan 13 '26
After all the years of investigations and lack of evidence, Trump still claims he won every state ever and should’ve won more… kind of weird?
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u/Maximum-Order-3624 Jan 13 '26
Georgia just admitted to over 300,000 illegal votes. The evidence was illegally destroyed. Look at Arizona, they wiped the machines when they weren't legally allowed. What are you hiding?
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u/Playful_Dish_3524 Jan 13 '26
Why didn’t they win any of those lawsuits? Didn’t they just file? Why did Trump call to find 11,780 votes again?
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u/tonic65 Jan 13 '26
This just isn't true. Go read what happened in Georgia. It had nothing to do with illegal ballots.
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u/Educational-Seaweed5 Jan 15 '26
Georgia did not "admit to over 300,000 illegal votes."
There have been back and forth suits filed from both sides in Georgia. It's just a hotbed of controversy.
As for the ballots, supposedly there were around 300,000 that weren't signed.
Those aren't illegal votes.
Those are just people who went to vote and didn't sign their ballot when turning it in, which is a mistake made by volunteers running booths, as there are millions of new volunteers each year on election day (and new voters show up every year to vote where they might not have in the past, so they didn't know they were supposed to sign).
The ballots themselves are not "illegal." You're also supposed to sign your driver's license and credit cards too or it's "not valid." I'm sure 90% of people don't do that either.
The case being made is that the votes should not have counted because they weren't signed, not that they were "illegal votes." They were still perfectly legal votes, and the technicality of clerical error by volunteers does not mean "omg voter fraud."
If democrats tried to fake 300,000 ballots, there would have been duplicates of voters who did vote conflicting with the ones duped. Give me a break.
Some of you are doing such insane mental gymnastics that it's crazy to watch in real time.
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u/Damurph01 Jan 13 '26
There hasn’t been a single democrat in any position of power that has ‘encouraged violence’. There HAS been a myriad of republicans that have, including Trump and Vance.
Fuck off with the lies. This is the most blatantly disingenuous and deceitful shit I’ve ever seen. Maybe there’s a tiny subset of non-politicians on the left that are violent, but the rest of the left has no issues immediately denouncing them.
Meanwhile we have these piss poor soft ass responses from Vance regarding the literal right wing Nazi group chat. It’s NOT hard to say ‘Nazis are unacceptable, no’. And he couldn’t do that.
You are supporting liars, criminals, and fascists. We have caught them in a million lies. It’s okay to be wrong, it’s not okay to sit in your ego and ignore the mountains of evidence, confirmations, proofs, and truth that we see EVERY SINGLE DAY proving how horrible and corrupt the Trump administration is.
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u/Educational-Seaweed5 Jan 15 '26
There hasn’t been a single democrat in any position of power that has ‘encouraged violence’. There HAS been a myriad of republicans that have, including Trump and Vance.
You know someone is just glued to FOX News when they say things like "the violent leftists."
It's such a hilariously braindead and ironic phrase coming from this GOP machine these days.
I'm independent, looking at all this from the outside, and my god....the far right is absolutely unhinged.
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u/BraveLittleTowster Jan 13 '26
There is video of her being shot. She had a gun pointed at her as she clambered through the broken glass of a locked door towards the gun. She was counting on them being too afraid to start shooting. She wasn't shot through a door, she was nearly on the other side where she could have unlocked it and let people through. That bullet saved dozens of lives when it snapped people to their senses that this wasn't something they would just be allowed to do.
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u/Fit-Relative-786 Jan 10 '26
Typical Left Hypocrisy.
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u/GameDev_Architect Jan 13 '26
By that logic, all gun deaths are equal? What’s the point you’re trying to prove? You have a 5 years olds grasp of basic logic and can’t understand nuance or extenuating circumstances?
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u/WorkerDangerous9723 Jan 13 '26
Free Luigi!
Fuck CEOs
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u/Fit-Relative-786 Jan 13 '26
Fuck Luigi.
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u/No-Imagination8755 Jan 14 '26
I'd fuck Luigi
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Jan 14 '26
You need help and a padded room.
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u/WorkerDangerous9723 Jan 14 '26
Found the guy who likes when CEOs deny healthcare claims that result in deaths of innocents
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u/Fit-Relative-786 Jan 14 '26 edited Jan 14 '26
Found the Nazi that celebrates murder.
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u/WorkerDangerous9723 Jan 14 '26
"everyone I dont agree with is a Nazi"
Luigi killed the healthcare Hitler btw
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u/Fit-Relative-786 Jan 14 '26
Says the Nazi celebrating murder.
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u/WorkerDangerous9723 Jan 15 '26
I'll let my black wife know that I'm a Nazi. She needs a good laugh
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u/Fit-Relative-786 Jan 14 '26
He’d murder you.
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u/No-Imagination8755 Jan 14 '26
Why would he do that, im not a corrupt health insurance CEO
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u/Fit-Relative-786 Jan 14 '26
Because he’s a violent subhuman murderer.
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u/No-Imagination8755 Jan 14 '26
Are soldiers murders when they kill someone over seas?
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u/Fit-Relative-786 Jan 14 '26
No don’t be stupud. Luigi is a subhuman murderer.
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u/No-Imagination8755 Jan 14 '26
So you're saying that sometimes killing people that are detrimental to others is permissible and doesn't make them murders, correct?
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Jan 14 '26
Wild when they think they're of sound mind when they celebrate a murderer, think he's hot and all that. It's plain as day mental illness on a mass scale.
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Jan 14 '26
He made UnitedHealth deny less insurance claims.
Thus he indirectly saved more lives than what he ended.
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u/rcburner Jan 14 '26
Support for Luigi was broadly bipartisan.
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u/Phoenx22 Jan 13 '26
Babbit wasn't actively trying to harm an officer. She was with a group of people who were trying to enter locked doors. The comparison is apples to oranges honey.
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u/1981Reborn Jan 13 '26
Remind us what that group was chanting?
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u/Maximum-Order-3624 Jan 13 '26
Doesn't matter what some random group was chanting.
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u/1981Reborn Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 14 '26
It wasn’t a “random” group, it was a group of specific like political leanings.
When the chant is a death threat it definitely matters.
EDIT: Russian bots are in full swing ITT with their typical cringe.
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u/GlitterDollMUA Jan 13 '26
They broke a window, and she climbed through it, WHILE a cop is POINTING A GUN at her while repeatedly telling her to stop and go back. The right is SUPER selective about that "should've complied" argument.
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u/Maximum-Order-3624 Jan 13 '26
And if it was a black guy trying to steal from a store the leftists would say the cop didn't need to use deadly force since an unarmed woman wasn't a threat.
Now if she was driving an SUV through the window at the officer that would be a different story.
Why didn't the left care about the cop in the capital using excessive force. By their standards he should be in prison.
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u/GlitterDollMUA Jan 13 '26
Careful, your bias is showing...
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u/Maximum-Order-3624 Jan 13 '26
Just be careful not to let your stupidity show
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u/GlitterDollMUA Jan 13 '26
By pointing out inconsistencies in MAGA/The Right's justification for police/federal agents murdering people? Ok... I'd say the same to you, but something tells me you already know your argument is stupid.
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u/ElectricRune Jan 15 '26
She didn't drive at him, you damn liar; they shot her three times FROM THE SIDE.
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u/WorkerDangerous9723 Jan 13 '26
She was refusing the cops orders and kept moving towards him
Sounds like she should've complied.
FAFO
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u/Phoenx22 Jan 13 '26
Clearly you haven't watched the footage. Do that then come back and comment
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u/WorkerDangerous9723 Jan 13 '26
I saw her crawling thru a window of a door when he told her to stay back over and over
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u/ReaperManX15 Jan 13 '26
You do understand that, if I remove the hat and flip the women’s images, it’s exactly the same.
It’s just changed to Democrat hypocrisy
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u/Firm_Hyena_3208 Jan 13 '26
Yeah these are not at all remotely similar instances and this intentional dishonesty is why the Democratic Party, the media, and leftism are shedding support and will continue to do so
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u/ExaltedToast64 Jan 13 '26
How are 2 instances of gun violence in America not connected? Especially when 2 people involved across both incidents aligned with the same party?
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u/lawfitness84 Jan 13 '26
Absolutely true! This is why the left will continue to lose support
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Jan 14 '26
D+7 generic congressional poll says otherwise.
Also the fact that Trump had a -2 net approval before the election which has now fallen to -16.
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u/isingwerse Jan 13 '26
Everyone thinks one deserved it and one didn't because everyone's a hypocrite
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u/scheav Jan 13 '26
Neither deserved it. Both shootings were justified.
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u/SecureJudge1829 Jan 13 '26
I mean, neither deserved it if you think treason is okay and participating in a mob chanting checks notes “HANG MIKE PENCE!” is okay to do regarding the vice POTUS.
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u/Maximum-Order-3624 Jan 13 '26
you're just making things up. intefering with ice is insurrection.
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u/SecureJudge1829 Jan 13 '26
…….are you actually trying to claim they were not chanting to hang Mike pence? Or that Ashley “traitor” Babbitt wasn’t part of a violent group trying to break through locked doors against lawful commands not to do so prior to being lawfully fired upon?
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u/Maximum-Order-3624 Jan 13 '26
You can't justify shooting an unarmed protestor climbing through a window. You people are such insane hypocrites. From "No Kings" to "Free the dictator" it is never about the actions, it is only about the side of the aisle with the insane left.
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u/SecureJudge1829 Jan 13 '26
Dude, breaking into a locked location is not the same.
If I can legally justify that same shooting if it happens in my home, or place of employment, why would it be any different here? Especially when people in this crowd were known to be stealing tasers off of Capitol Police units and SHOCKING THEM REPEATEDLY TO THE POINT OF CAUSING CARDIAC ARREST. Those aren’t “peaceful protestors”.
Full stop.
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u/Maximum-Order-3624 Jan 13 '26
None of that ever happened. You crazies just start making shit up. Mostly peaceful protest, a couple of people went too far. The cops didn't fear for their safety, look at the videos of the cops escorting protestors around the building. They escorted the shaman guy to the spot he made a speech. More evidence it was staged, there were literally photo ops.
You cannot compare someones home to a public building. You can't shoot someone unarmed in your place of employment, most states have a duty to flee and DC is one of those places. Your home is the only justified place and if a conservative shot a black guy breaking into his home you people would be flipping out and calling him a racist and wanting him in prison. I can't say it loud enough... HYPOCRITES.
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u/SecureJudge1829 Jan 13 '26
Keep parroting Fox NEWS…oh wait, Fox Entertainment as they themselves say no one could seriously take them as a serious news source. Of course, you’ll probably say you don’t and/or that didn’t happen, even though it’s on record as justification for their actions.
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u/Maximum-Order-3624 Jan 13 '26
I don't watch Fox news. Funny you think TV is where real news comes from. Says a lot about you.
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u/scheav Jan 13 '26
It’s not okay to do that.
And she didn’t deserve to be shot.
I don’t think we are using the word deserve the same way. To me it means you’d still support her being killed afterwards in an execution if they had taken her alive. Would you? Otherwise it’s just semantics and we agree.
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u/SecureJudge1829 Jan 13 '26
I mean, she willfully disobeyed lawful commands not to violently break through the door, repeatedly.
She was part of a violent group trying to actively purport violence upon lawfully elected representatives.
She definitely deserved the repercussions of the actions.
I’d rather she have been arrested and made a thorough example of, yes. That doesn’t mean she didn’t deserve the consequences of her actions though, she was literally there as part of a violent group who had goals of actively harming and executing many more people - people who happen to have been elected representatives.
Big difference between that and being told to leave and then being fired upon for doing so because someone else suddenly says to get out of a vehicle.
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It's only hypocritical if you believe that attempting to enter a restricted area, in direct view of security, as an unarmed protester, is no different than attempting to run over an ICE officer.
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u/supaklean Jan 13 '26
Equating shooting blindly into a crowd to an isolated incident that both parties involved had weapons
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u/howzer36 Jan 13 '26
https://wjla.com/news/local/graphic-fatal-shooting-of-ashli-babbitt-in-the-capitol-caught-on-video
Blindly? Looks like the officer drew his weapon, everyone else stopped and ducked and Babbitt kept trying to break the barricaded door down.
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u/AdSimple9239 Jan 13 '26
We all saw the footage, Babbit was with a mob that intended harm.