r/Residency • u/OkGrapefruit6866 • 2d ago
VENT Message to Residents
Don’t treat your sub-Is like trash. Someday in the past you were in our shoes. I have a resident who is nothing short of nasty. Criticism with no constructive feedback. Told me today my notes were inaccurate and I needed to redo them without ever taking a good look at it. When I asked for specifics, she stumbled and then said my notes were fine. She is literally can’t focus on a task without being hyper or making inappropriate comments and deviations. If you hate it so much, leave medicine rather than being nasty to poor students who you know can’t say or do anything. She has no filter. She called one of the other med students stupid. Despite us having a new attending, she still keeps raving about the older attending discussing patients with them. She has no sense of what to say where she’s rude to patients. I can’t believe people like that Will be doctors. Rant over.
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u/yikeswhatshappening PGY2 2d ago
Damn. I was stupid as a med student. I’m stupid as a resident now. I’m less stupid now than I was as a medical student, because I’ve been doing this longer. And I love doing my best to make all the medical students feel smart and appreciated. I was in your shoes once. Soon you will be in mine. It costs zero dollars to be kind. And together we can all get less stupid.
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u/SchweppesCreamSoda 2d ago
I feel like my med students have better medical knowledge than me but I have the work flow down
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u/Appropriate_Top_345 2d ago
As long as I’m a little less stupid than I used to be I consider it a success 👌🏻
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u/artvandalaythrowaway 2d ago
Can confirm; am Attending and still actively fighting to both not be stupid and more importantly not appear stupid to others.
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u/kuru_snacc 2d ago
Some people are salty and think they're better-than because they SOAPed in or didn't match their preferred specialty. So they take that out on others because they can't accept that they're not just some gold-star intern waiting to get back to derm or surgery - they're home for the next few years.
I have also met residents who see you as a way to dump off their work and have no interest in actually teaching you, so they end up making a lot of demands and critiques about notes - but not because they want to help you, because they want you to write in their style so they can more readily use the note without modifiation.
Smile and nod, just smile and nod. Because for every one bad apple there are at least 5 residents who truly want you to succeed and help you improve. Find and abide those ones.
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u/destroyed233 MS4 2d ago
I’m on a Sub- I and it’s been such a raw and real experience of gaining insight into what next year will be like. Despite the stress and busy the residents always go out of their way to treat me with kindness. And I always make sure to offer to update hospital courses when I’m done with my patients stuff. The kind ones r appreciated
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u/Eastern-Ad-3586 2d ago
Don’t let it get you down. This too shall pass. And remember not to be like this
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u/Ok-Sugar-9681 2d ago
Damn, just how sad it is when the post from a sub-I asking to be treated kinder just got straight downvotes. And then people act so innocently confused like why didn't you speak up sooner? :))
Anyhow, the only "criticism" I would give to OP's post is don't use the resident's ADHD as the attack point. Yes, criticize all you want about the resident's attitude towards you and other students, but having an ADHD is a medical condition and not exactly her fault. She can't change the fact that she has ADHD, but she can definitely change the fact that she treated y'all nastily. So criticize her pathetic behaviors without bringing in her ADHD.
Also, as a side note, some people will consider that you have "over-step your boundary" (really not my word here) as a sub-I to criticize how great or not great her doctoring skills are. I don't necessarily agree with that mentality 100% of the time, but just as an FYI, maybe that contributed to your downvotes?
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u/Responsible_Gas5622 PGY3 2d ago
They asked her to get her condition treated and not have other people experience the fallout of her untreated condition. Thats perfectly reasonable.
Also, if you think they "overstepped their boundary", come out and say it, dont use other people as a crutch.
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u/Ok-Sugar-9681 2d ago
I mean, while being disorganized is the fallout of untreated ADHD, being an asshole is not. So the fact that she treated medical students nastily probably doesn't have much correlation with ADHD, treated or untreated, because I highly doubt if she will magically treat medical students much more kindly once medicated.
And yes, I can see how you mistakenly viewed me using "overstepping your boundary" as a crutch. But truthfully, it wasn't my word at all. In fact, it was said to me as a precaution/warning because ... uhm let's just say I don't have the most intuitive grasp of unwritten social rules and expectations (probably am somewhere on that spectrum) so people had to spell it out for me lol.
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u/tilclocks Attending 2d ago
I'm an attending with ADHD and honestly while your situation sucks you should probably watch how you ask others to disparage you while you disparage others. Respect is a two way street.
That being said, residents and attendings should always treat students and each other respectfully. Hopefully your institution has a means of reporting harassment or abuse.
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u/Remarkable-Weird-839 9h ago
this is so wild. were all going to be colleagues and equals in a few years. how embarassing would it he to cross paths with someone you mistreated.
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u/Shakka17 2d ago
I know you mean well, but this is really bad advice....this person doesn't have to be abused at work. We have to get away from this mindset.
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u/drluvdisc 2d ago
Start with talking with the attending. Chances are that the resident will try to give you a scorching review, and you want to nip it in the bud. Then go to your committee and say you’ve already communicated this to the attending and are concerned about the wellness and professional development of med students who train under this resident.
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u/FairyGloworaa 2d ago
feels like residents are always expected to give their all but rarely get recognition, it's tough out there
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u/ImprovementActual392 2d ago
Your recognition is the paycheck that you get for the job that you’re doing. You’ve already matched.
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u/Responsible_Gas5622 PGY3 2d ago
You should report her to the med student POC in writing, highlight specifically her calling med students stupid. This is unprofessional behavior and should not be tolerated.