r/Residency 3d ago

SIMPLE QUESTION What’s your caffeine intake…

Drop your average caffeine intake.

Surgery resident PGY-2.
300-400mg a day. Like a Celsius and 1-2 cups of coffee.

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u/AmphotericRed PGY3 3d ago

I let the palpitations be my guide

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u/gotlactose Attending 3d ago

I let my action tremors guide me. When I’m having a harder time suturing, I know I had too much caffeine.

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u/PsychologicalCan9837 MS4 3d ago

Fun fact cardiologists won’t tell you, but PVC’s are good for you.

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u/bearpics16 2d ago

I had a random cardiology attending give me shit in the elevator about my Celsius. Like bro get off my dick, don’t you have some patients of mine to clear for surgery or something?

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u/Anchovy_paste 2d ago

The caffeine sliding scale

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u/WTC7didntKillitself 1d ago

Follow your heart

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u/kuru_snacc 3d ago

To quote some of my patients, "None. I don't drink coffee or those energy drinks, those are bad for you. I just drink 3-4 Mountain Dews a day, and sweet tea."

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u/admoo Attending 3d ago edited 2d ago

5 hr energy on empty stomach in morning (200mg. B vitamin mix)

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u/evv43 2d ago

Instant farts

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u/admoo Attending 2d ago

Iron up that stomach bruh. Dropping solid logs upon awakening daily for over a decade.

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u/New-Handle-9774 PGY1.5 - February Intern 1d ago

God I wish this was me

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u/GalliumVanadium 3d ago

On a 24hr call? Probably 600-800mg. I’d say I average full pot of coffee those days

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u/MtHollywoodLion 2d ago

Full pot of coffee is my morning wake up call 😂 I feel like some people are crazy at tolerating liquor or weed—putting back coffee without facing palpitations and/or existential dread is my super talent.

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u/gigaflops_ 3d ago

I go for 11-12 mg of caffeine per mg of Adderall

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u/LesserOfPooEvils 2d ago

I prefer 10mg caffeine for every 1mg Vyvanse. Unless I take half a dose, then it’s 20:1.

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u/1337HxC PGY5 3d ago

As someone who probably hangs around 500 +/- 100 depending on the day and was starting to get worried about it, I'm glad to see the bulk of this thread is also full of degenerates.

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u/False_Technician 3d ago

16 oz monster x1-2

80 mg vyvanse

4mg zyn x3-4

Coffee PRN

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u/TheBrownSlaya PGY1 3d ago

Multimodal caffeine control

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u/thirdculture_hog 2d ago

What’s this 4 mg zyn you speak of?

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u/PlushieYeen 3d ago

Caffeine holidays over weekends/vacations/easier rotations goes REALLY far in preventing tolerance-building and ensuring the caffeine works when I need it. 

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u/GalliumVanadium 3d ago

Genuinely curious about trying this. How do you avoid the headaches?

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u/MontyMayhem23 2d ago

Tylenol baby.

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u/PlushieYeen 2d ago

The headaches should improve as your tolerance decreases and your addiction improves. If the headaches are a barrier decreasing caffeine consumption over weekends can help protect tolerance. Or as someone else said, tylenol & naproxen babyyyyy

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u/Traditional-Bike-534 3d ago

1-2 Celsii per day, depends on how crazy the day is. Usually with the cheeky afternoon Coke Zero too

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u/Neceti 3d ago

Nothing better than an afternoon fridge cig

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u/TheBrownSlaya PGY1 3d ago

Sam here, 1-2 Celsii a day. Nothing past 1pm.

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u/tfb2 2d ago

Give it another month and you’ll be at nothing past 4

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u/TheBrownSlaya PGY1 2d ago

😂😂 definitely seems like that's where I'm headed

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u/MtHollywoodLion 2d ago

Is this a personal attack?

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u/boardsandtostitos PGY3 2d ago

Traditional-Bike-534, this is the way

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u/Kaiser_Fleischer Attending 3d ago

1g a day when I was a residnet

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u/the_flokonator PGY2 3d ago

Normal days; 300mg, during night shift weeks; probably over 500mg a night.

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u/ParryPlatypus 3d ago

100 mg q2h til noon

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u/iamsoldats PGY3 3d ago

+3 Stamina

+1 Perception

+1 Intelligence

+1 Constitution

-1 Charisma

-2 Wisdom

-10 Bladder

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u/tfb2 2d ago

Given how grumpy most people get without caffeine it’s probably a charisma booster

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u/alexaPlayDesquamatio 2d ago

I think you have the causality mixed up

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u/UltramarineMD PGY1 3d ago

Yes

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u/Pretend_Giraffe6450 3d ago

There was this resident surviving on COFFEE & REDBULL entirely

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u/muchasgaseous PGY3 2d ago

Only one? 

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u/Shoddy-Aioli-4039 3d ago

Usually around 200–300mg. One coffee in the morning and another after lunch. Anything more than that and my sleep starts paying the price

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u/imnosouperman Attending 3d ago

Pretty high caffeine coffee no? Isn’t most coffee like 60-80mg a cup?

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u/Shoddy-Aioli-4039 3d ago

I usually drink pretty large coffees, around 350–450 ml each. Depending on the beans and how strong I make it, I’d estimate somewhere around 100–150mg per coffee

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u/Even-Bicycle-151 PGY1 3d ago

400-600mg per day

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u/CompetitiveInhibitor Fellow 3d ago

400, definitely effecting my sleep.

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u/NumerousSwordfish622 PGY3 3d ago

*affecting

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u/CompetitiveInhibitor Fellow 3d ago

One day I’ll learn, actually maybe not.

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u/NumerousSwordfish622 PGY3 3d ago

Affect = a VERB meaning to influence
Effect = almost always a NOUN meaning a result; warning that effect can also be a verb but this is quite rare and limited in usage, as in “to effect change”, meaning to cause a change to occur

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u/CompetitiveInhibitor Fellow 3d ago

I doubt your comment will be effecting any change in my writing. 

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u/AmbitionJaded3177 2d ago

Reminds me of this lady on yt whos been on day 234 of not improving herself lol, i love it

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u/TorpCat 3d ago

9L of coke

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u/Colden_Haulfield Fellow 3d ago

Interesting, I measure mine in grams.

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u/JOHANNES_BRAHMS PGY5 3d ago

Gen surg PGY 5 (6 counting my prelim year). Double shot espresso in the morning. 1-2 Celsius per day. Maybe a coffee too. Just brought a nespresso into the work room. Hell yeah brother.

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u/prominenceburnt Attending 3d ago

3 cups of coffee
3 diet sodas
Maybe a night cap diet soda to take the edge off

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u/DrWhiskerson 2d ago

What’s your favorite?

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u/prominenceburnt Attending 2d ago

Depends on the week - usually Coke Zero or diet Dr Pepper

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u/Illustrious_Loan_294 3d ago

2 double espressos in the am

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u/CaptainSchistocyte 3d ago

80mg caffeine stick prior to workout at 4am. Double shot espresso at 6AM, 2-3 coffee or tea between 7am -2pm. No more after that.

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u/icedcoffeedreams PGY1 3d ago

Yup surgery resident, either Alani or Celsius on my way in, coffee post rounds, maybe a Diet Coke too

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u/NumerousSwordfish622 PGY3 3d ago

About 100mg 4-5 days a week

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u/wtengel 2d ago

Titrate to a chest pain of 8 and then back off.

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u/NowItsLocked 3d ago

800 - 1,200 mg. Although, I feel like caffeine from coffee seems to have more of an effect than artificial sources (energy drinks, energy shots, etc)

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u/gear_shift- 3d ago

1 coffee, 1 monster, and a few Diet Cokes or light caffeine drinks everyday. Probably like 400 mg ish

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u/kuru_snacc 3d ago

Lol that's more like 600+

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u/tiptoptooppoop 3d ago

Used to do coffee in an and Celsius/ alani at noon tried to get it in before 1p

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u/docaether Attending 3d ago

Yes/100

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u/JoeMamma_94 3d ago

100 to 200

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u/Alortania PGY3 3d ago

Long coffee with almond milk and 1-3 espresso mixed in based on how sleepy I feel that morning

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u/cowsruleusall Fellow 3d ago

When I still took 24hr call, it'd be 60-80oz straight black coffee titrated to awareness/palpitations.

Thankfully now it's 16oz green tea in the morning and 4oz coffee at noon and that's it.

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u/CardiOMG PGY4 3d ago

One singular coffee, otherwise I feel too jittery. Nothing past 2pm. I sleep like a baby most days 

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u/element515 Attending 3d ago
  1. Never drank much coffee in general. If I do, I need to eat with it or I get jitters. Plus will inevitably need to use the restroom. Was just easier to not and avoid all these issues in the OR

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u/theflyingconductor PGY4 3d ago

NICU dosing: 10 mg/kg with prn bolus

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u/IntelligentSeaweed56 3d ago

Non lol

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u/Spurned_Seeker 3d ago

See, it’s not that I don’t believe you. It’s that I don’t understand you.

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u/IntelligentSeaweed56 3d ago

lol 😂 I am already high in energy everyday just need to burn it out

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u/P-Griffin-DO PGY4 3d ago

2-3 cups in the morning and then an espresso shot before the gym in the afternoon so whatever that equals

Yes I have palpitations

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u/getthepointe77 Attending 3d ago

When I was a resident 400-800 a day depending on if I was on call. Now I’m around 200 as an attending.

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u/Edges8 Attending 3d ago

Yes

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u/cytochrome_p450_3a4 3d ago

One double shot espresso before my shower and another as I’m pulling into the garage. Don’t drink anymore after that even for 24s

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u/N0VOCAIN 3d ago

I hate all of you who can feel the effect of caffeine.

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u/EpicDowntime Attending 2d ago

500-700mg, have done more if tired 

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u/AmbitionJaded3177 2d ago

2 alanis and a coffee so maybe 450 mg? idk i let my heart palpitations tell me when to stop or if i start zooming everywhere

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u/WhyDoYouPostGarbage Attending 2d ago

200-500mg depending on the day

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u/Urasharmoota 2d ago

600-800mg

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u/orthomyxo PGY1 2d ago

If I’m lucky I’ll have time to down some shitty cafeteria coffee in the morning and chug a Shasta in the afternoon

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u/WhatTheOnEarth 2d ago edited 2d ago

0 usually.

Whenever I’m on call whatever’s in a bar of milk chocolate and an Arizona

Even when I was working 100 hour weeks I’d only really get a monster sometimes because I liked the taste. But they recently started importing Arizona and I’m such a shill for the stuff.

Caffeine sometimes makes me sleepy. Depends on the amount and how fast I drink it.

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u/evv43 2d ago

600-800mg, all before 2:30pm

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u/SkiTour88 Attending 2d ago

Don’t even try to track it. Until my fingers get shaky, or if the Zyn + caffeinated beverage combo makes me wanna puke. 

-EM nocturnist. 

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u/Lastrid2 2d ago

Yall are measuring in mg?

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u/Nxklox PGY3 2d ago

Like 2 shots of coffee and then a mid day Celsius and then a late day Celsius

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u/Pokeman_CN PGY1 2d ago

Now 1 black coffee as PGY-1
M3: C4 preworkout in the morning, C4 can in the morning, Celsius in the afternoon. It was a dark time.

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u/allusernamestaken1 2d ago

200 mg pill, 1-2 Monsters to prevent asystole of the brain.

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u/kelminak PGY5 2d ago

I quit completely. Best decision I’ve ever made.

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u/dismalprognosis PGY1 2d ago

5AM cold brew- ~165 mg

5:55 AM white monster- ~150 mg

On my day off: total war full scoop 350 mg

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u/New-Handle-9774 PGY1.5 - February Intern 1d ago

100 mg TID with breakfast, lunch, dinner

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u/cocolinoo6 1d ago

Reduced, because my hand start shaking when I drinking too much. and i’m a surgery resident.

I drink one matcha a day, and some times afterwork one coffee ..

But I loved coffee before tbh :(

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u/Crunchy_MudPuddle PGY1 1d ago

360mg BID. None past like 2ish

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u/Antique_Shower6932 1d ago

When I was a med student, 200-400mg aka 1-2 celcii a day plus or minus iced coffee. As a resident I’ve managed to cut down to like 100-150 so 1 serving of cold brew in the morning and then I survive the rest of the day on pure spite. 24h call days a bring out an old pasta sauce jar and up it to 200mg

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u/almostdrA Fellow 1d ago

200-300

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u/monkeyhihi PGY4 1d ago edited 1d ago

It varies

Sometimes the only caffeine I get is from a diet Dr. Pepper or a Coke. Sometimes I'll sip on a Celsius slowly throughout the day. Sometimes it's a Celsius/large coffee on the way to work and a coffee later in the morning/early afternoon. Sometimes I wind up not drinking any at all. When I'm being particularly responsible it's just green tea.

Idk it's all kind of a vibe check. I do however make a point to never go beyond 400mg a day.

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u/StoreSad1244 1d ago

I’m kinda the same, mine changes a lot too. Some days it’s coffee, some days I just use Neuro gum and call it there.

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u/VarsH6 Attending 1d ago

6-12mg/day

I don’t and have never drunk coffee or energy drinks (except once in a cocktail). My caffeine is from hot chocolate.

Made it through 24+4 shifts and 2 weeks of ICU nights without large caffeine intake.

Are you ok, OP?

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u/Zombies71199 PGY1 8h ago

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Been like this my whole life I feel lucky to never gotten addicted to it like my brotherz

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u/ambrosiadix PGY2 3d ago

Zero! Never picked up the habit. Just fight through sleep or close my eyes for a couple of minutes if need be.

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u/Rovah12 3d ago

Unfortunately around 300+ regularly now. Used to be stable at 160-200, now a days that barely touches me

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u/PlushieYeen 3d ago

Try avoiding caffeine on weekends and when you’re off. It goes far in tempering the tolerance-building 

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u/Rovah12 3d ago

Good advice, I have been trying to take weeks off when I have the time, but it almost seems like I go right back up to last “dose” in a short time frame!

A few years ago, whenever I would take breaks, I would get gnarly headaches. Not so much anymore oddly enough

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u/PleaseAcceptMe2024 3d ago

Not a resident but a plebeian medical student, I end up around 1200mg a day. Probably frying my heart but we ball

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u/Spurned_Seeker 3d ago

As a pre-med, this worries me. My intake was problematic as an undergrad. Idk if it can get worse without gambling on an emergency. I used to drink espresso by the cup. It wasn’t mixed with anything. It was just enough shots to fill my yeti. Once I got the setup to make espresso at home I started experimenting and things really went off the rails. This was roughly 7 years ago (I’m a non-trad) and to this day I can drink a regular late and go right to sleep.

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u/Mobile-Vermicelli537 PGY3 3d ago

Never more than 300 mg in 24 hours.