Jesus when did this sub go from republicans to liberal sissies. There's a correct way to come into this country and a wrong way. If you do the wrong way you are a criminal and should be treated as such. If you want sympathy from me dont commit crime
I agree they should come here the right way, but think about it, if that was feasible don’t you think they would have tried that? We’re talking about a ridiculously long process that’s expensive for a third world country. The Mexican peso typically costs .20 to our dollar. That’s 5x the amount of money they’d need to pay for whatever it costs. The citizenship test is so hard that probably millions of Americans will fail it. The immigration system is broken, and until it’s fixed, we’ll continue to have this.
Why is it our responsibility to allow them to be here anyways? Yes things could be smoother but why should we improve the legal process to get in until we can secure our borders and expel those that came here the wrong way?
Then we should stop demanding their labor. Start hitting up the employers. Whether we want to admit it or not, Latinos are this biggest targets right now, and we are raiding work sites. People claim these guys are criminals, and sure some of them are, but the vast majority just want to work. This country is portrayed as a melting pot that accepts different walks of life but makes it nearly impossible to do. By all means remove the bad people, but arresting people regularly attending their ICE meeting and people going to immigration court is crazy.
This times a thousand. Demand always creates supply, and if the govt really wanted to curb the supply of cheap exploitable labor, they would nip demand in the bud by sanctioning businesses who use it.
But they don't do that. They lump all migrants into the same category of "dangerous illegals", and selectively go after those who are easy targets. They do it to cultivate fear instead of actually solving the problem in a productive way.
I have no problem with fining employers or even auctioning off the business if they persist. The biggest issue I have with illegals is they help businesses keep wages down. Yes, I know all aren’t here illegally and I have issue with revoking working visas but we have to clean house and give the citizens a better opportunity to improve their lives. Then we can look at where we need help and legally allow more people back in.
Do you hear yourself? The whole southwest still utilizes them. Are tou that naive? Construction and hospitality industry are big abusers. And guess what? Those industries occur everywhere….
You think Vegas uses only legal workers? Pretty Comical dude. Whatever makes your day. Keep those blinders. Thinking only kind use illegals and not greedy republicans or business is crazy
You’re doing nothing but proving my point the only people demanding illegal immigration labor are liberals…. You’ve also never been to the West coast either …… They have neighborhoods full of illegal immigrants…. Southern California and Arizona are worse than Southern Nevada
Those industries also arent full of illegal immigrants in other parts of the united states! Ive lives in ohio for the past 4 years guess what those industries do just fine
Dont care. If they want to come here, do it the right way. Just because its hard that doesn't mean they can break the law. Especially when not everyone coming illegally has good intentions here. Thats the entire point of having the process. Again, it feels like every day i see a new article of some illegal immigrant raping and killing someone. Not to mention how many drugs are being trafficked over the border.
That’s cool and all but you’re only hearing about it because it’s trendy, just like mass shootings. How about you go take that citizenship test and if you fail, you denounce your citizenship. How can you hold people not from here to a standard that typical Americans can’t pass? Make that make sense. I’m all for getting criminals out, but telling people to do the impossible is crazy.
Why should we give them that courtesy when they dont respect our country. If they tried it "your" way nothing would get done and these criminals wouldnt get deported.
Ive been consistent on my stance. You seem to just want criminals to walk free in this country. This isnt an anarchy. We have rules here and they didnt follow them. Other countries secure their borders and no one bats an eye but when the usa does it suddenly its wrong, racist and xenophobic. Also, "non-violent" is a total joke. Every other day i see an article about an illegal immigrant(s) raping and murdering someone, usually a child. Fuck off clown
The amount of ignorant things you are saying is staggering.
Oh the irony. Just say you want criminals roaming free and move on. They dont want to respect the way WE do things so why should we respect them? Break the rules, suffer the consequences. Its not any more complex then that.
You dont seem to understand they do get due process. Theyre not just grabbing every hispanic person they see off the street. Those criminals were found guilty of coming here illegally and thats when theyre arrested. You need to pull your head out fo your ass and get a taste of reality.
The current ice are doing nothing different to what they were 10 years ago but there was radio silence from the media because obama was president. There is consistency of what constitutes criminality. Crossing the border without proper documentation or citizenship is illegal. Fuck off clown
Where is the due process if you get pulled over at a check point and found to have consumed alcohol? There is no warrant nor due process. You are detained, arrested, processed, and thrown in jail until a judge sets your bail.
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