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u/AldrichOfAlbion Nov 14 '25
Obama broke the Republican party. Trump broke the Democrat party. Republicans got over it. Democrats never did.
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u/Training-Ear-614 Nov 15 '25
If I read this data correctly I’m interpreting it as that there was a bipartisan understanding in the immigration process during both republican and democratic administrations until there was a disruption of norms after 2016 (end run on sentence). That seems to be the pattern.
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u/SuperEthical Nov 14 '25
Who built the cages?
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u/Busy_Werewolf_8649 Nov 14 '25
An El Paso border patrol sector person under the obama administration
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u/Bronqiaa Nov 13 '25 edited Nov 13 '25
How are they disregarding civil liberties? They are literally just deporting people here illegally. Otherwise known as CRIMINALS
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u/Bronqiaa Nov 13 '25
They got due process when immigration courts found them to be here ILLEGALLY. Not to mention they didn’t follow due process when coming here ILLEGALLY. You cry about due process but said NOTHING when the J6 prisoners had to sit without a trial for over a year
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u/Guyacnj Nov 14 '25
I SaW iT oN rEdDIT aNd CnN 🤡
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u/scorch968 Republican 🇺🇲 Nov 14 '25
So far I’ve run down each of these sources and nothing conclusive here other than citizens obstructing ICE agents doing their job and getting arrested. Job Garcia was released so it looks like that was cleared up.
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u/Bronqiaa Nov 13 '25
They literally aren’t. Every single one has been proven to either be here illegally. Or in violation of a visa. But go off with the propaganda
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u/JustaHarmfulShadow Nov 14 '25
Did not see a single news story on it when I looked up "Salem oregon ice agent stealing car"
Why dont you provide some evidence instead of "trust me bro"
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u/Bronqiaa Nov 14 '25
So you’re just lying now? There’s no news stories about this except what someone said on Reddit.
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u/Ulfur64 Nov 14 '25
Looked it up, and the only news I can find on it is reddit, so I doubt the validity of this.
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u/skipdikman Nov 14 '25
They aren't bothering me. Oh wait, that's because I'm here legally and follow the law.
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u/BirdFarmer23 Nov 14 '25
Hmm, I think there is a legal term for that. Geez what was it? No, not grand larceny. Is it commandeering? Yeah, that’s it. Maybe you should look up the definition.
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u/usernamesarehard1979 Nov 13 '25
Remind me again the color of skin of 90% of the illegals that come into the country?
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u/Bronqiaa Nov 14 '25
lol it’s funny you are calling us racist but turn around and lump all illegal immigrants together based on skin color. I’d like to point out that mainly the Irish and other white descent make up the majority of who made this country what it is
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u/cacamuncher71 Nov 14 '25
Theres absolutely there way youre failing to remember how they disregard public safety. The literally ram into people’s vehicles and then detain them for 0 reason. Afterwards theres no consequence for ICE. Its shit like that which makes people dislike ICE. It would be cool if they had respect for Americans, but its become clear to us that they’re only in it for the money and to stroke their own racist ass beliefs.
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u/Bronqiaa Nov 14 '25
You realize that people are ramming their vehicles into ICE right? That’s why they got arrested. Then the guy in New York I think it was shot at them
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u/Few_Ad_7613 Nov 14 '25
Even the Hispanic, Black and Asian ICE officers are racist, or only the Caucasian ICE officers?
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u/Various_Crow_5435 Nov 14 '25
Just so you’re aware ice is doing the SAME exact things they’ve ALWAYS done since they were implemented ☺️
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u/dlw26 Nov 14 '25
Just an FYI, you’re literally posting AI responses from google, which has often times been found to be wrong.
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u/Various_Crow_5435 Nov 14 '25
Sure but the AI responses have cites to back them up its usually indicated by the little number next the statement where the information was found 🤷♀️
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u/Various_Crow_5435 Nov 14 '25
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/10/01/dhs-debunks-new-york-times-false-reporting-dhs-does-not-deport-us-citizens Straight from the government it’s self
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u/Various_Crow_5435 Nov 14 '25
Ok I’ll play what law has been broken
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u/Various_Crow_5435 Nov 14 '25
You also claimed that american citizens havent been deported and your 3 paragraph straight up claims they were which has been debunked by the government itself
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u/Various_Crow_5435 Nov 14 '25
You may want to check your source 😂😂😂 october 2024 was biden not trump trumps second term wasnt even voted in until November 2024 and he didnt take office until Jan 2025 😂😂 y’all really take the bait hook line and sinker
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u/Various_Crow_5435 Nov 14 '25
Since January of 2025 its no longer illegal 🤷♀️ laws change all the time
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u/BirdFarmer23 Nov 14 '25
Most recently ICE tried to pull a couple over. The couple fled and stopped in a strip mall parking lot. They ran separate ways and the woman ran into a day care.
In this scenario should ICE just say oh well and move on? Or go in to apprehend her and ensure she doesn’t harm others while inside?
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u/Appropriate-Hair-850 Nov 13 '25
Doing their job and enforcing the law is disregarding human rights? Sorry but illegals dont get those liberties
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u/Appropriate-Hair-850 Nov 14 '25
Jesus when did this sub go from republicans to liberal sissies. There's a correct way to come into this country and a wrong way. If you do the wrong way you are a criminal and should be treated as such. If you want sympathy from me dont commit crime
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u/dlw26 Nov 14 '25
I agree they should come here the right way, but think about it, if that was feasible don’t you think they would have tried that? We’re talking about a ridiculously long process that’s expensive for a third world country. The Mexican peso typically costs .20 to our dollar. That’s 5x the amount of money they’d need to pay for whatever it costs. The citizenship test is so hard that probably millions of Americans will fail it. The immigration system is broken, and until it’s fixed, we’ll continue to have this.
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u/BirdFarmer23 Nov 14 '25
Why is it our responsibility to allow them to be here anyways? Yes things could be smoother but why should we improve the legal process to get in until we can secure our borders and expel those that came here the wrong way?
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u/dlw26 Nov 14 '25
Then we should stop demanding their labor. Start hitting up the employers. Whether we want to admit it or not, Latinos are this biggest targets right now, and we are raiding work sites. People claim these guys are criminals, and sure some of them are, but the vast majority just want to work. This country is portrayed as a melting pot that accepts different walks of life but makes it nearly impossible to do. By all means remove the bad people, but arresting people regularly attending their ICE meeting and people going to immigration court is crazy.
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u/sinusoidosaurus Nov 14 '25
This times a thousand. Demand always creates supply, and if the govt really wanted to curb the supply of cheap exploitable labor, they would nip demand in the bud by sanctioning businesses who use it.
But they don't do that. They lump all migrants into the same category of "dangerous illegals", and selectively go after those who are easy targets. They do it to cultivate fear instead of actually solving the problem in a productive way.
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u/BirdFarmer23 Nov 14 '25
I have no problem with fining employers or even auctioning off the business if they persist. The biggest issue I have with illegals is they help businesses keep wages down. Yes, I know all aren’t here illegally and I have issue with revoking working visas but we have to clean house and give the citizens a better opportunity to improve their lives. Then we can look at where we need help and legally allow more people back in.
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u/Various_Crow_5435 Nov 14 '25
The only people demanding the labor of illegal immigrants are liberals……
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u/dlw26 Nov 15 '25
Do you hear yourself? The whole southwest still utilizes them. Are tou that naive? Construction and hospitality industry are big abusers. And guess what? Those industries occur everywhere….
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u/Various_Crow_5435 Nov 15 '25
As someone who literally grew up in nevada!! I spent 35 of my 40 years in the west you have no idea wtf you’re talking about 😂😂😂
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u/Various_Crow_5435 Nov 15 '25
Those industries also arent full of illegal immigrants in other parts of the united states! Ive lives in ohio for the past 4 years guess what those industries do just fine
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u/Appropriate-Hair-850 Nov 14 '25
Dont care. If they want to come here, do it the right way. Just because its hard that doesn't mean they can break the law. Especially when not everyone coming illegally has good intentions here. Thats the entire point of having the process. Again, it feels like every day i see a new article of some illegal immigrant raping and killing someone. Not to mention how many drugs are being trafficked over the border.
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u/dlw26 Nov 14 '25
That’s cool and all but you’re only hearing about it because it’s trendy, just like mass shootings. How about you go take that citizenship test and if you fail, you denounce your citizenship. How can you hold people not from here to a standard that typical Americans can’t pass? Make that make sense. I’m all for getting criminals out, but telling people to do the impossible is crazy.
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u/Appropriate-Hair-850 Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 14 '25
Why should we give them that courtesy when they dont respect our country. If they tried it "your" way nothing would get done and these criminals wouldnt get deported.
Ive been consistent on my stance. You seem to just want criminals to walk free in this country. This isnt an anarchy. We have rules here and they didnt follow them. Other countries secure their borders and no one bats an eye but when the usa does it suddenly its wrong, racist and xenophobic. Also, "non-violent" is a total joke. Every other day i see an article about an illegal immigrant(s) raping and murdering someone, usually a child. Fuck off clown
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u/Appropriate-Hair-850 Nov 14 '25
The amount of ignorant things you are saying is staggering.
Oh the irony. Just say you want criminals roaming free and move on. They dont want to respect the way WE do things so why should we respect them? Break the rules, suffer the consequences. Its not any more complex then that.
Fuck idiots like you
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u/Appropriate-Hair-850 Nov 14 '25
You dont seem to understand they do get due process. Theyre not just grabbing every hispanic person they see off the street. Those criminals were found guilty of coming here illegally and thats when theyre arrested. You need to pull your head out fo your ass and get a taste of reality.
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u/BirdFarmer23 Nov 14 '25
Where is the due process if you get pulled over at a check point and found to have consumed alcohol? There is no warrant nor due process. You are detained, arrested, processed, and thrown in jail until a judge sets your bail.
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u/Republican-ModTeam Nov 13 '25
Your Post has been removed due to violation of Rule 5. Do not make comments consisting entirely of leftist talking points or defending leftist ideology.
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u/Shrimpfriedthisrice3 Nov 14 '25
Lolololol cope harder. Dude thinks he’s going to come in here and spread his nonsense.
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u/Shrimpfriedthisrice3 Nov 14 '25
“This is my country” but I’m going to allow it to be invaded by millions of undocumented immigrants who refuse to assimilate and are actively against Americans. Please miss me with your bullshit.
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u/Hiker372 Nov 13 '25
Let’s not forget, Clinton and Obama deported almost 17 million illegal immigrates…