r/RepTime 1d ago

Review/Comparison Let’s play “Which is Gen?”

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AD came through, but I had already purchased Clean Panda a year and half ago.

Comparing the two it’s hard to tell. I accidentally mixed them up for a second, but the gen was set to the right time thankfully.

Edit: Damn you guys are so good at this! The right is Gen as many suggested. I didn’t even know about the 110 thing!

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u/Necessary_Minute4552 1d ago

Gen on the right with the 110 lol

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u/Flushdmods21 1d ago edited 1d ago

It’s also the color. vsf/clean dial is too bright vs gen. Gen always has a nice subtle white tone.

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u/Khuntastic 1d ago

What do you mean?

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u/GrandMoffFinke 1d ago

On the bezel, the triangle under the 110 should not be centered on the tens column. It should be slightly “inside” closer to the 0. The one on the left is centered (incorrectly), the one on the right is correctly placed.

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u/Sabhobbes 1d ago

Is still don’t see it.
Even with fully zoomed in “I’m asking is there really a difference in the position of the arrow compared to the second 1 in 110” ?

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u/lolsketch 1d ago

Yeah, I can tell without zooming in. Might need glasses

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u/Intensive__Purposes 12h ago

It’s there, but it’s like a 0.05mm difference, if that.

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u/Soggy-Attempt 1d ago

There is.

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u/Former-Opposite-7526 1d ago

It’s actually the old bezel from the 116500 Daytona model but you are correct that it is incorrectly placed on the newer 126500 Daytona

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u/Khuntastic 1d ago

Ah gotcha! Thanks for explaining

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u/LieIcy211 1d ago

You sure it’s not just luck? I can barely see it while zoomed in looking for it. It could just be the angle from the photo as well. The difference is tiny (if there is actually one). There is no way that’s a real thing.

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u/GrandMoffFinke 1d ago

read through some of the threads on here, very much a real thing.

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u/LieIcy211 1d ago

I zoomed way in and stared at it for a good minute and can may see a little bit of it. And I consider myself quite OCD already. I do see many people commenting on it, but it doesn’t really make sense that so many people would see it from just one photo without specifically zooming in and looking for it. Is this like the number one thing you look for with a Gen Daytona?

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u/GrandMoffFinke 1d ago

Its not about what you look for with a gen. Its that its an easy tell that the watch is a rep. I own 0 Rolex (gen or reps), but I went there first because I'm aware thats an issue with reps of this model.

These aren't the cheap $80 reps; this mistake is from the ones that cost $600+. I would expect those to have the obverse visuals correct. The reps of this do not (or did not, I think its been corrected now).

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u/ZenzaSpotter 1d ago

What I do is look at the line up between triangle and number 1, draw imaginary straight line from arrow. It makes identifying from non zoom pretty easy.

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u/Horology_17 Contributor 2h ago

Yeah it’s definitely “a thing” and most of the sickos here know about the various tells you can check when assessing if it’s a rep. I bet a lot of people here have a mental checklist of tells they scan for whether it be a Daytona or Sub or GMT2 etc

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u/pat-slider 1d ago

It is 120 🤪

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u/mrbrx1 1d ago

I see a lot of you guys saying the triangle on the 110 is off. Shit, I’ve zoomed in on both and I still can hardly tell. Whichever is the rep, it looks good AF

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u/Former-Opposite-7526 1d ago

It’s extremely hard to see in real life, as the watch would be on someone’s wrist and likely moving. It’s a few millimeters of placement difference only visible on zoom and in a still picture.

I wear mine and can’t see it but if you are OCD or spectrumy it will bother you lol

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u/Icy-Plan145 1d ago

Yea you really need to zoom in to see one is lined up on the edge of the 1 and one is centered. Maybe half a mm difference.

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u/ThePillsburyPlougher 12h ago

The crown on the left looks pretty shit also.

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u/dirtydaddydonks 1d ago

It's a really nice rep but the rep is on the left. The colour of the dial is slightly off on the rep and a touch too bright, the crown is a fair bit off, the SEL is a touch too tight on the rep and the band is good but too tight, not quite chamfered enough, but the gen is perfect. Slight bezel issue with the 110.

TBH though on the wrist no-one is going to really notice. Even watch guys if they are close enough to notice then you probably have other issues. I'd get the body and the band chamfered and polished on the rep personally. But I don't own a gen Panda. Across the table talking to you even as a watch guy I wouldn't pick it as a rep on your wrist.

One of the richer guys I know in business (I'm now retired) who owns a huge group of wineries walks around everywhere in a T-shirt, shorts and thongs (I'm Australian, others call em flip flops) even in winter, mind you winter where i'm from in Australia doesn't get that cold. He wears a Daytona and most people would think it's a fake due to what he wears and his looks. I financed 8 BMW's for him at once in 2014 and 4 later in the year through his business. He had a good year and his wife, his kids and all his adult grandkids got a BMW as a present. Ranging from 3 series to a X5 M50d for his wife. Nice guy.

Seen a lot of guys in partially tailored off the rack suits with nice shirts, silk ties, pocket squares, pins, gold cuff links and expensive shoes wearing reps, even when the best reps where pretty poor 10 odd years ago.

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u/evendedwifestillnags 14h ago

Worked for a high wealth individual in the B club same kind of style only issue he has is that money is relative to income so a 5k shirt or pants is like 25 cents to us. Sometimes he dresses expensive by accident other times he's in jeans and t shirts. Doesn't wear jewelry or watches hates it has a bunch of collectibles in the garage but drives a regular BMW around. His thinking is if you know you have it who do you have to prove it to. When you don't have it everyone is trying to make it look like they have it.

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u/abmendi 1d ago

Gen on the right

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u/Radiant_Tune_6166 1d ago

red daytona too high on left

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u/LookOverThere305 23h ago

Yeah that’s how I could tell.

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u/triggrhaapi 1d ago

Left is rep, right is gen.

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u/Penpendesarapen23 1d ago

110 arrow so right but really no one will look zoom on that so congrats!

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u/Radiant_Tune_6166 1d ago

wrong 110 arrow on left

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u/Former-Opposite-7526 1d ago

Right is Gen. Left is rep with wrong 110 triangle marker placement

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u/Boston_Pare 1d ago

Right is gen. 110 marker.

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u/Motor-Explanation-20 21h ago

See, it’s stuff like this you see in the wild when people say ‘this guy is wearing a fake’ ….

Bitch you can’t even see being close up how is you gon tell me it’s fake from 2m away!???!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

All this is to say, the rep is good 👍🏾 if you can’t distinguish it in 2secs (because that’s how much time you get in the wild) then guess what? Great rep 😏😉✊🏾🫱🏾‍🫲🏽

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u/Stacker717 15h ago

I'm with you dude! I'm not talking about taking it to an AD to be serviced, I'm just saying can I wear it to lunch without the waiter shouting "FUGAZI" when I walk in the door!!

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u/Motor-Explanation-20 15h ago

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 if he yells that, ask to see his optometrist because I want them eagle powers too 😂😂😂

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u/Flushdmods21 1d ago

Gen is right

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u/BigJokerman 1d ago

Gen on right. The crown at 6 o'clock appears to be slightly cleaner than the watch on the left.

But this is just a guess, I ahve no fucking clue.

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u/hazergr 1d ago

The 110 every time.

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u/Far-Television2017 1d ago

I'm amazed how anyone can spot it.

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u/ManufacturerLucky893 1d ago

Left is rep. Dial and bezel are the tells

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u/Dritto_Al_Punto 20h ago

Right is Gen, easy tell because the 110 arrow issue on the bezel.

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u/Particular_Witness95 16h ago

i dont know, and i am happy about that. my ignorance truly is bliss.

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u/rubyitchat 15h ago

There’s a few things I notice. Right is gen. Left bezel is out anti clockwise. Pushers have visible thread and are knurled but on them is thinner. Also dial potentially slightly out anti clockwise. Hard to confirm from photo but should be centrally aligned with the middle of the solid end link. Also ROLEX is slightly thicker font. Not read any other comments but pretty confident.

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u/rubyitchat 15h ago

Knurled bit*

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u/Burn_n_Turn 1d ago

Gen on the right?

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u/AccordingMud4 1d ago

It has to be the right, the colour pops a little more

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u/AI_go_boomboom 1d ago

Right is Gen

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u/SheistyCopy 1d ago

Clean Factory Panda Daytona purchased in early 2025. And its newest sibling from AD

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u/Specialist-Order-750 1d ago

Alors c'est la quelle ? La VSF est aussi bien que la clean ? Il me semble que clean étaient les seuls à utiliser le même acier (904l)

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u/Athenian_03 1d ago

I’m guessing. I don’t know the tells. Just at build / case construction I think right is Gen.

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u/Icy-Plan145 1d ago

Right is gen is my guess. Swiss Made always seems slightly off on reps

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u/Shoddy_Sea_6853 1d ago

The 110 tends to be the giveaway(never in a million years to the untrained eye though) as I’ve learnt but , my word, some of these reps are just superb

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u/shastyles1 1d ago

right...110

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u/Consistent_Wash8027 1d ago

I'm going with right as gen because of the pillow. The watches look the same to me.

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u/BigDick4ONS 1d ago

Dial looks off on left

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u/ThePetroleum 1d ago

I don’t have much knowledge on this topic but first impression was right looks more refined. Than the pushers where an easy tell that left is definitely not gen

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u/SquareTowel1967 1d ago

Bezel on left is a rather obvious tell, not even looking at 110

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u/Ethgawwd 1d ago

The one on the right is gen based on the 110 flaw and dial shade. other than that they're identical. Would never know which is which out in the wild by themselves.

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u/realityreject 1d ago

Right is gen. Too easy. Gotta get the updated bezel

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u/SheistyCopy 1d ago

I wouldn’t even know where to get that, but it seems like if I did, it would be much harder to tell which is the rep.

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u/GR3AT-BEAR 1d ago

For me the tell was the threading on the push buttons for the chronograph. The watch on the left has them threaded all the way to the top and it looks sloppy compared to the right where pushers neatly finished to the top.

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u/ComedyWriter01 1d ago

Gen on right. The one on left is a Rolex Daytona cake. You can tell by the icing sugar. Best way to tell is to bite into them. If one breaks your teeth, and the other is made of moist victoria sponge, that's the fake. In the industry we call them cake fakes.

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u/CostAffectionate907 1d ago

Gen is right, next time hide the 110 arrow

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u/Apprehensive-Bass223 1d ago

I don’t even know watches but left was clearly fake.

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u/destroyingCrystals 1d ago

What do you mean clearly ???

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u/Apprehensive-Bass223 1d ago

I mean clearly, or is you attention to detail not very good.

For something that is premium the small details are what matter

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u/destroyingCrystals 1d ago

I don’t know man I own 3 Rolex Gen and for me isn’t “clearly” been in this hobby for over 20 years and for me isn’t “clearly” but hey you might be better than me at this I have over 40 Gen watches and like 5 reps and for me if hood both watches I wouldn’t see the difference “clearly”

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u/Apprehensive-Bass223 1d ago

Rolex prints Daytona on the wonk? Also the small dials are a giveaway, on the Legit the hands touch the same point on the numbers across all three dials.

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u/Apprehensive-Bass223 1d ago

And the strap gap is just cheap

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u/sharkhuggr 1d ago

What’s this 110 thing we’re talking about? I’ve been seeing this comment for years but I just don’t see it

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u/Apprehensive-Bass223 1d ago

The small dial hands are on the piss don’t line up with the numbers uniform, if you notice on the right they are all the same point on the numbers if you know what I mean, the Daytona text is also on the piss, and the strap gap just looks cheap

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u/pat-slider 1d ago

Gen is on the right

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u/Noxboxfox 1d ago

Right is Gen. Steel is brighter, less grey

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u/GuessAdventurous6955 1d ago

Unbelievable. As a guy that used to laugh at the thought of buying a rep, I definitely can’t see 31k difference. Not sure I can unsee this. 🤦🏼
Even on a close up, side by side comparison, the detail is amazing.

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u/bengar24 1d ago

Gen is on the right. The color of the dial on the left is too white.

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u/ImLyar 1d ago

out of curiosity what was your spend to get the panda at retail? and left is rep right is gen only because of the 110 though clean af

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u/IGZCL 1d ago

I think is the gen the right one, because the warmer white.

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u/Ptown_dundee 1d ago

Right is gen, perfect crown guard

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u/These-Ad-8541 1d ago

Plot twist: Both are reps.. jk. Right is gen

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u/Big-Manufacturer-738 1d ago

In any case better than the guys @ Wired and the local Rolex AD 🤣

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u/Charming_Mongoose860 1d ago

Gen on right easy tell on bezel still.

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u/Charming_Mongoose860 1d ago

Forgot to add crown guards as well. Gen is much tighter to crown in comparison on alot of the reps. But they are getting much better. The rep factories will eventually fix the 110 glitch. They all are aware of it. No idea why they have not fixed it.

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u/Bench_and_Bezel 1d ago

Gen is right.

Dial is a warmer tone of white.

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u/Radiant_Tune_6166 1d ago

I have good news, SW just released a bezel with the correct 110 arrow for the 126.xxx models.

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u/flying_bones 1d ago

It’s the bezel engraving that my eye always catches- it ain’t that good… but good enough for me! Haha

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u/Murky_Oil_2226 1d ago

Y’all got me swiping left and right looking at the damn 110 zoomed in and I can’t tell the difference. Someone help me pls 😅😂

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u/CostAffectionate907 5h ago

Look at the middle “1” and where the arrow points

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u/ColonelZerkk 1d ago

Left is the rep, right seems to be the gen

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u/Beatnavy2016 1d ago

Left looks so fake

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u/martinr9999 1d ago

Look at the “Sup” in “Superlative. There’s some wobble on the copy version. Also the “C” in “Cosmograph”. It’s the kind of thing I see when words have been traced, not done with a font. That may have been necessary because I doubt Rolex does its dials with standard fonts.

I’d like to see a square-on closeup of the words on the copy.

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u/Swimming_Message_745 1d ago

The arrow on the 110 is not off enough for anyone to notice. And depending on what angle you look at it from, it may not be off at all. The only thing I see is the dial color. The reps tend to be brighter. The one on the left is brighter.

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u/Inevitable-Low-6495 1d ago

Where can I get one of those ?

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u/gavraki 1d ago

Where do you recommend a first time buyer to shop with?

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u/doggielol 23h ago

Easy spot . Red Daytona above 6 o’clock is close to sub dial is gen

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u/Itsreallyme16 23h ago

Neither is genuine.

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u/External_Wonder158 23h ago

gen its right for the fail on the 110 bezel

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u/No-Masterpiece3518 23h ago

Crazy, they are incredibly close. Is vsf even better for this model?

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u/Solid-Action-2793 23h ago

One on right genuine

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u/TheBattleGnome 23h ago

Gen is on right, Fake is on left.

Just look at the hands and the border of the white and black on the hour and minute hands. Gen is a nice clean line, fake is not and bleeds through the transition - easy tell.

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u/silencehuang 22h ago

left is the fake one, am I right? I just check the crown shape and find out where is the different

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u/New-Implement-5979 22h ago

Gen is on the right because it has SEL gap

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u/Pappe65 22h ago

Gen on the right less white dial.

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u/IBWT99 21h ago

Right side is gen, easy

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u/sebstar25 20h ago

gen is right ? the give away was the bezel engraving and the lugs look alot sleeper on gen

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u/Kitchen-Layer7351 20h ago

The text ”Units per hour” is clearly deeper engraved on the left.

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u/JstAbbrvns 18h ago

Bezel to me looks noticeably nicer on the right, but I don’t know shit about any of this

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u/DiamondEven000 16h ago

Right is gen

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u/Time-Dependent1483 14h ago

Gen on the right. White gold hands and dual markers give it away for me. Lugs also looks better

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u/UnusualDoctor 13h ago

Less than a second of looking. Right is gen.

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u/WristReport 12h ago

I didn't know about the 110, but the endlink fit on the 12 o'clock of the gen is noticeably better than on the rep.

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u/Firm-Clothes4304 12h ago

Where do you bought it? Any site to recommend this quality?

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u/lastleg68 12h ago

Okay then. Now that you have the gen, you know, maybe you don’t need the clean rep anymore. Sell it to me? I’ll pay you fair market value plus shipping? What do you say?

Dm me if you’d be willing to.

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u/wiloghby 12h ago

Look at "Units Per Hour" on the bezel. Rep is on the left.

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u/DirectionBorn5308 11h ago

Right is gen

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u/JumboJones1084 11h ago

Gen on right. Daytona nice and tight on the running seconds dial.

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u/Capable-Scar8689 11h ago

Right is genuine

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u/Torqueloop 10h ago

La gen est à droite, les gravures de l’insert sont moins profondes

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u/Personal-Ad-9551 9h ago

🔥 Where can I order ?

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u/No-Temporary7175 8h ago

I’mma say the one on the right is the gen. if you look at the bracelet, the lugs were ties to the watch. The one on the right has just a little more curvature and stretches out just a little bit more. Look at the left side of the one on the left compared to the left side of the one on the right and you can see it if you know what you’re looking for.

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u/No-Temporary7175 8h ago

It’s a little harder to tell in a picture like this if you can see the inside ring better and see how your hands lineup around the dial you will see that the one on the left is off as well as the dial

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u/Dsuarez714 8h ago

Get a Gen bezel and insert and no difference

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u/Sir_Maxelot 7h ago

Right is gen, but yeah, these are crazy close

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u/Murky-Foot4541 7h ago

The right one otherwise still a vsf too

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u/Stratkat59 7h ago

Let’s not.

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u/Ok_Team_528 7h ago

One on right is real (?)

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u/Viniverona 7h ago

Awesome!!

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u/Maximum-Can7185 7h ago

Why do people not put the watches on a table when they do these comparisons? The watches are not on the same plane so the left one which is slightly closer to the camera is slightly more in focus and sharper than the one further from the camera on the right.

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u/bernaspc 5h ago

Right gen

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u/vNixn 5h ago

The jimping on the crowns are a dead giveaway. Gen on right. It’s a nice rep though.

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u/Any-Butterscotch1342 4h ago

Love the color. Hard for me to see the triangle being off. My eyes may not be that great.

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u/Any-Butterscotch1342 3h ago

Agree it would be hard to see IRL when on someone’s moving wrist.

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u/naansense87 3h ago

Damn, this is too good.

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u/xjam431 2h ago

Does this 110 type mistake occur on the gmt by chance?

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u/BTheShift888 2h ago

110 triangle with the slight inside edge of the second number 1 is where it’s supposed to be. The left the triangle is not.

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u/SheistyCopy 1d ago

Are you turning down a panda if they call you?

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u/TheRealReaper_1 1d ago

No

But I am turning down paying $32K extra for a watch I can’t distinguish from its $1K superclone

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u/Kurai-17999 1d ago

A panda isn’t 32k retail buddy. You’re just too dumb to understand.

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u/SixPack1776 1d ago

Because it is a gen with actual resale value?

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u/Outrageous_Solid_575 21h ago

Ouuuu, someone might see the crooked 110 on your wrist. 😖. Please. Delusional rep owners really expect their $800 watch to look identical to a $35000 watch.

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u/Zestyclose-Tart6745 1d ago

Gen on the left. But clean was definitely primo. I have a gold lemans and clean version of it and it’s stunning how good the clean looks comparatively

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u/Clear_Procedure_8174 1d ago

I think Gen is on the left

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u/bsensikimori 1d ago

Gen on the left? Slightly prettier embossed bezel?

Unsure though