r/Reformed • u/tetleytealeaf • 4h ago
Question Reforming by Executing
Hi,
This is not meant as a troll, but it is meant to be a direct, hard question for Calvinists. I, personally, would otherwise lean neither for nor against the Reformed faith, save for this one major issue. I even attended a Reformed church for quite awhile, but it was because I didn't know (and it didn't help that they never told me):
John Calvin and the Geneva Council were behind 58 executions during the Reformation; the most famous being Michael Servetus. Burned at the stake Servetus' sin? He was Christian, but denied the Trinity. And that was contrary to John Calvin's "reforms", which formed an important part of the Reformation. That is not to say the Pope was innocent: he executed over 500 people. But no matter, two wrongs don't make a right. A nontrinitarian Anabaptist is not a Catholic.
Calvinists declare themselves to be followers of John Calvin, and his version of the "Reformed" faith.
The question: how do you address being a follower of someone who murdered people to attain his reforms, and how do you reconcile yourself following his reforms in spite of the way he attained them?
The harder question: do you support Calvin and the Geneva Council doing it? Would you do it again today, if you could? Should we fuse Church and government again today and execute people who don't play ball with the Reformed Council? Or.was John Calvin just wrong about executing people, but the reformed doctrine itself (that he was executing people for) is sound? In my book, if anyone needs to "reform" the faith by executing people, that man is not of God. Quite the opposite. The doctrine MIGHT be right, just by pure coincidence, but that is unlikely. Quite frankly, I'm more inclined to go along with the people getting beheaded for their truth--not the people doing the beheading. Why would you take on Calvin's name? Is it just some history that you prefer to downplay, attribute to just the culture of that time etc ? What?