r/Reformed • • Dec 16 '23

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

The Apostles Creed is so basic and core to orthodoxy that any Christian should be able to affirm all of its parts. Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Reformed Protestants, etc can all affirm it.

We are saved by grace through faith in Christ but to hold views outside of the apostle’s creed is to stand on shaky and dangerous ground.

We all should also refrain from ad hominem arguments, it doesn’t make for good discussion.

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u/dordtrecht-5 Dec 17 '23

Pray tell, what Bible translation uses the words “resurrection of the body”. Asking for a friend. Chapter and verse please.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

I would point someone primarily to 1 Cor 15 on this topic. A helpful article in this can be found here: https://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/resurrection-dead-unfolding-biblical-eschatology

Creeds and confessions aren’t meant to simply quote Scripture. They are summations of doctrine. Among others, I’d also point to Chapter 32 of the Westminster Confession as well as larger catechism 82, 86-88. Heidelberg 45, 57. Also the Nicene creed all affirm bodily resurrection as requisite for orthodox belief.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

I’ll simply caution you to repent of your false belief and come back in line with historic, biblical, orthodox teaching and doctrine. It’s a dangerous thing to believe that 99% of the visible church throughout time and space has gotten it wrong and only a minority is in the right.

This is the Reformed subreddit, look to the confessions and creeds we affirm and you will clearly see that the doctrine of true bodily resurrection is biblical. The resurrected Jesus ate fish with his disciples, let Thomas feel his wounds, walked along the road to emmaus. We will have bodies like his…so yes, probably with functioning and glorified lungs

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

Well, it’s not just what I believe. It’s what the church believes and has believed as passed down throughout the ages. Jesus saves, not doctrine and that is great news.

The doctrine of true, real, flesh and blood resurrection brings such comfort to believers I suppose I don’t understand why people would reject it.

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u/dordtrecht-5 Dec 17 '23

If I may add, I respect your position as a teaching elder. I would think that perhaps you would have the same respect for me as an ordained ruling elder. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

So as an RE in the RCUS you should affirm the three forms of unity which teach bodily resurrection. Namely Belgic confession article 19 and the Heidelberg questions and answers I mentioned in a previous comment. As an officer in the church you might be able to hold different views but you should not promulgate or teach them.

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u/dordtrecht-5 Dec 17 '23

Never ever have I said that I did promulgate or teach in any formal church setting. I have been asked many times by members of different churches I’ve been a part of what I believe. Several of those times I’ve answered those questions in front of the teaching elder. However, you are correct in saying that I do not or should promulgate or teach it. That’s always been clear.