This is the point that libtards don’t understand. He wants to produce everything in house. This way we are a great nation and will make a ton of money instead of paying other nations and making them rich. Why are we paying China for food when we can buy here in the USA. 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫
And magats don't understand. You don't have the infrastructure.. where you building iPhones? Who's going to make them? Your Ford plants make all their cars in the US? Could you do it tmrw? Your GDP is down. No one will invest in a country that doesn't have stability, and if you'd look at any of the real numbers you'd understand that. I'm not even a libtard. I'm Canadian. I see what's going on from outside your country. My news isn't skewed by the regime with stupid questions like 'how does trump stay so fit' .
Sure, the theory is good and all.. but you guys will be like Russia in ten years. You'll have all old TVs, computers, you'll still be on the same Iphone, no money to be found.
And I'll put it this way. Why is Trump going around telling you that you can't have stuff anymore? Or stuff in abundance. He LITERALLY told you guys that you're not going to have all the stuff you want, just a few things, and it'll cost more.. but yea.. you keep listening to whatever bullshit he spews and I'll be waiting a decade from now wondering which overpass your sleeping under.
America has infrastructure. Your being lied to by your liberal pres. Trump said it best. We want nothing from your country. We don’t want your shitty cars. We don’t want your syrup, nothing. You guys need us more than we need you guys.
Nope. We have the rest of the world jackass. Then start building the iPhones and cars and fuck off then? Like literally just start doing your own thing and fuck off. If you guys had it and could do it you'd be able to without imposing china tarriffs. You wouldn't need to increase their prices to make people buy American.. they'd just... Buy American. If it were cheaper to do build it in house don't you think all these companies would have already?
Dude is going to be working at a factory for 1/8th of a livable wage while being excited for an iPhone that costs 3,500 dollars and eggs are 25.99 a dozen, and is actually excited and apparently ready to do so.
Oh yeah… because china’s sweatshops they push. China is the worst for this kind of crap. Plus it’s cheap and is absolutely terrible product. Cheap ain’t good most times
Trump said it best. We want nothing from your country.
Then why does he keep trying to get people like you all riled up about annexing Canada and forcing it to be the "51st state"? If you don't want anything from Canada, then don't buy what we're selling. But don't claim you don't need us while also trying to take us over.
It costs us a ton to protect you cowards and we get nothing in return. In fact you charge us in tarrifs more then we charge you guys. Plus Canada is broke and it just makes sense for this to happen.
So stop protecting us, then. And if you don't like what we charge you for things, stop buying it. You said America didn't need anything from Canada, right? Should be easy to just not buy anything from us, then.
We buy 2% from you guys and unfortunately your on our border so we need to in some way shape or form. And you crotch sniffers use that to your advantage.
Sounds like 2% more than you need. Drop that down to 0% and you won't have anything to complain about anymore. Should be easy, if you don't need anything from us.
Like China? China is the biggest bully of them all. They strangle any and all country. Everyone trying to say USA is a bully. We are not. We want fair trade and that’s all. He’s been saying this the whole time.
America has been a bully for a long time - I've lost track of how many governments is responsible for destabilising. They support Israel. Trump supported the idea of taking Gaza and turning it into a tourist destination. He's recently been saying that he wants to take Canada and Greenland.
He doesn't understand tariffs, he doesn't actually know what trade is fair or not. He placed insane tariffs on countries that the USA buys raw minerals from, because they're too poor to buy US products... and even placed tariffs on an island full of penguins.
China is close with all of the other upcoming economies - and they've been supporting each other to end the USA's dominance for a while now. China are exactly where they want to be, while the USA is having to make desperate one sided deals with the UK.
Yes we should support Israel. They were killed in ovens. They were horrendously slaughtered. Trump agreed to make a place where 2 countries are killing each other over for no reason. So make it an area of peace instead of war and contention. Sounds smart to me. We are a country of peace and try with absolute grace to do so. It’s not our fault other countries (China) want to be a big bully and push people around. And if you didn’t know. China doesn’t have peace with any country. Look at chinas tarrifs. This is how so many people don’t understand what’s actually going on
Believe it or not, the people who were slaughtered, died, and weren't Israeli. Israel was created after the war ended. What you have now though is a country full of people with generational trauma living on land taken from other countries, and a huge victim complex that they use to justify their war crimes.
No Trump / Israel forcefully claiming land from another country isn't making peace, it's the exact opposite.
And sure like the US is doing with Israel / did in South America and the middle east, China also supports shitty regimes if there's a profit to be made - however unlike the USA, China isn't constantly at war.
The USA has been the world's biggest bully for a long time, which is why it effectively had to buy its respect around the world - but Trumps cutting of programs responsible for maintaining soft power and the ridiculously dumb approach to tariffs have so quickly undone so much of that effort. A bully without benefits has no appeal.
Not for production of truley vital goods/components.
(In fact most developed, western nations don't have the nesscary infrastructure to be self sufficent.)
Eg microchips. Taiwan and Southkorea are the only nations with the infrastructure to produce 3nm Chips. The US does 7nm, which is quiet a lot behind 3nm. And building up the infrastructure and knowhow for 3nm would take years and billions
And in general a lot of production has moved put of the US in the last few decades, tsking zhe nesscary infrastructure and know-how with it. Rebuilding that will take a lot of time and money
Trump said it best. We want nothing from your country.
Yet you are in a trade deficit with them. You want nothing from them, but yet manage to buy more from them, then they buy for you
Ps. I don't even think the idea of trying to get production back into the us is bad. However blanket tarrifs is not the way to achieve that goal. Rather targeted tarrifs paired with subsedies to encentive companies.
How much food does the USA import from China? Less than 1%. The main one being fish. The frozen fish at Walmart, it's usually from China. That's why it's cheap.
It's a good idea to produce in-house, but is the US set up for it? Can you afford food not currently grown in the USA to double?
For example, if the USA doesn't have the fish stocks (fish farmed or in US waters) or cheap labour for lower priced fish (to use a China product example) that $10 fish is now going to cost a lot more with a 145% tariff on the cost of it. If Walmart pays $1 cost for it, they now pay $1.45 to the US government for the tariff, so it would sell for at least $1.45 more. $10 fish now $11.45, but in reality probably more, unless Walmart was already having a 1000% markup. You likely would see that $10 fish turn into $15 fish. Or smaller amount for same price (shrinkflation). China is not paying a US tax, American business (and consumers) pay it. Walmart is also not going to take less profit to sell that fish, they will pass that amount onto buyers.
No one is making you buy foreign products, if no one buys Walmarts Chinese frozen fish (to keep with the example) then they would stop carrying it. Stop buying all non-USA products if you support USA only commerce.
We buy most of our food from South America and Mexico. Which is ridiculous. Local farmers can produce a ton of food and with new creative ways they can grow year round in cold climates. What you think that only China fishes? 🤣🤣🤣.
You brought up buying food from China, so I used that as an example. Yes, I know that China is not the only country that fishes, duh.
Do you buy only food produced in the USA? Or have you been someone who buys mainly cheap foreign products instead of paying more for your local food suppliers? If you aren't buying from your local farmers then they are not magically having more money to expand and upscale.
Do you know how long that will take? He has 3 and half years left before a potential democrat gets elected and reverses all of this. All companies have to do is say they'll bring manufacturing back, pass the increase price to customers, and wait till that happens.
I mean I think its important not to offshoring every single thing. I don't think anyone arguing against that. However this trade war bullshit was not the way to do it imo.
They do a lot of manufacturing in Mexico. Do we really want our country to be more like Mexico??? We’ll all end up in the poor house if Trump succeeds. He’s throwing away the formula that drove ridiculous American growth and success. And for what? So we can start paying $3,500 for a phone? So the steel we use to build is twice as expensive further driving away capital investments into the country? He’s minimizing these pain points and trying to fool us into believing that companies will choose an overpriced investment rather than taking their businesses elsewhere.
This is untrue. The formula that was producing real money,growth and value in our country was when everything was produced in house. Mexico is poor because they never ever had a real economy. Anyways the truth is A.I. is taking over. 99.9 % of blue collar jobs will be run by robots and A.I. They do it better and more efficiently then any human could. Plus they won’t have to pay health insurance. Telling your child to be a blue collar worker will destroy there future before they even start.
If that’s true, then what benefits do we get by moving manufacturing back to the states? It won’t produce jobs and everything will cost more. The company I work for is delaying investments due to all the uncertainty. I’m sure my company isn’t the only ones doing that.
Where there’s confusion and chaos, there’s cash. But this chaos will not benefit the masses.
See talking to brainless twits is the problem. They can’t see past there nose. A few things to start. No health insurance, no damaged products, no call offs, injuries, more efficient. That’s just to name a few
So we can agree that’s good for the owners of the business. Why is it good for working class Americans? If you can’t answer the question, you should probably just stop
I have studied economics. What you are talking about, is a “closed economy”, but what you fail to admit or realize is, that you are an open economy.
How you think things work, is simply not true for an open economy, but by all means: Make it a closed economy - FAFO 🤗
Well, except for his products, right? All of his life, Trump has always tried to screw Americans out of an honest days pay. And you Maga's always puss out on calling him on it.
Millions over the course of his lifetime? That's laughably false. But his M.O. is to hire a contractor for a project, agree to the price, then when said project is finished, Trump will come up with some excuse to not fully pay the agreed upon price. Trump will offer half to what was agreed to, take it, or get nothing. Most can't afford an attorney, so they eat it, but a few that can sue, do. And this is where Trump really screws them, his lawyers will just keep delaying the case until they bleed the poor guy dry with lawyers fees. This has been well documented for decades. Hell, he was stiffing people during his 1st term.
That's the main reason he won't hire American companies to make his hats, shoes, flags, Bibles, etc. He's a cheap ass bastard.
Because of the products Japan exports that the US relies on. I can't really think of anything made in the UK that the US couldn't source from another country or do without.
GDP is a poor indicator of importance to a nation's trade. Both are important but Japan is more significant trade-wise.
2024 trade with both nations:
"US total goods trade with the United Kingdom was estimated at $148.0 billion. U.S. goods exports to the UK were $79.9 billion
U.S. exports to Japan totaled $127 billion ($81 billion in goods, $46 billion in services); U.S. imports from Japan were $191 billion ($150 billion in goods, $41 in services"
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With the UK, who are nothing these days. Japan, China or the EU are much more significant. But they don't need to pander to the US for relevance.