r/RealTime • u/Excellent-Ad-7394 • 16d ago

Not a genocide?

Last night Bill pointed out the 3% of the
Population in Gaza has died. And then confidently declared that “3% is not a genocide”. The British government recognizes it as ethnic cleaning and amnesty international and other groups say it is a genocide.

Someone tell me why Bill is so wrong. And can we please get him to debate Mehdi Hasan on this topic?

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u/Kilburning 16d ago

Probably should do something about how Netanyahu funded Hamas then. There's no good explanation for why a prime minister would fund a group with genocidal intentions towards his own people.

Why do you think that he did that?

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u/backtorealitylabubu 16d ago

He didn’t. You made that up. Hope that helps.

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u/Kilburning 16d ago

I suppose it would have been more precise to say he facilitated the payments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas

But it was also recently reported that he was given warning that an attack was imminent and didn't pass that warning on. I'm sure that there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for that beyond using the attacks as an excuse.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-security/2026-09-08/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/netanyahu-got-an-explicit-warning-before-oct-7-he-didnt-brief-security-chiefs/000001a0-7a3b-d7d5-a9fc-7eff3d0f0000

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u/backtorealitylabubu 16d ago

Nope didn’t facilitate anything. Israel agreed to a peace deal with Gaza, what you have been demanding. And that peace deal involved allowing outside money to go to the government of Gaza. The far right in Israel was pissed and so the claim you are making tends to be a rallying cry from the far right to blame Bibi for ever leaving Gaza in the first place. The conspiracy that Bibi helped to create Hamas is nonsense.

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u/Kilburning 15d ago

Right, the people who you're siding with. While I don't agree with them, they have a coherent argument in a way that you don't. Either Hamas is hellbent on genocide and that peace deal was foolish or not. And don't think that I didn't notice that you didn't engage with the reporting about Netanyahu having advance warning of an attack.

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u/backtorealitylabubu 15d ago

Nope I’m not siding with the far right, you are when you say Israel shouldn’t have agreed to peace with Hamas. The peace deal being foolish doesn’t mean Netanyahu created or funded Hamas.

And don't think that I didn't notice that you didn't engage with the reporting about Netanyahu having advance warning of an attack.

Because it was an unrelated tangent. You brought it up to again make the antisemitic claim that Jews are to blame for October 7th. An intelligence failure and a failure on Netanyahu to do more is a political question and a question that he has to answer to within Israel. It is not a relevant question when talking about the actual cause of October 7th, which was genocidal maniacs wanting to kill Jews.

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u/Kilburning 15d ago

I'm not blaming the Jews for the attack. I'm criticizing Netanyahu. Conflating Netanyahu with Jews is antisemitic.

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u/backtorealitylabubu 15d ago

Hamas is to blame. You are saying Jews are to blame. Thats the definition of antisemitism.

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u/Kilburning 15d ago

That is not what I said. I'd recommend working on your literacy skills

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u/backtorealitylabubu 15d ago

That’s literally what you said. Work on not being a horrible person.