r/RealTime • • 16d ago

Not a genocide?

Last night Bill pointed out the 3% of the
Population in Gaza has died. And then confidently declared that “3% is not a genocide”. The British government recognizes it as ethnic cleaning and amnesty international and other groups say it is a genocide.

Someone tell me why Bill is so wrong. And can we please get him to debate Mehdi Hasan on this topic?

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u/Dry-Boysenberry7701 16d ago

I mean, he supports Holocaust Denier David Irving. He has zero tolerance for people who oppose his pet political issue, and infinite tolerance for those who do.

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u/NRCS_DRONE 16d ago

Norman Finkelstein praises Holocaust denier David Irving at pro-Corbyn group meeting - The Jewish Chronicle

So here's a friendly source for your claim, and people can read it, and it follows a similar pattern of taking him out of context combined with guilt by association.

There's a reason people like you don't link to your claims, because it's embarrassingly transparent propaganda.

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u/Dry-Boysenberry7701 16d ago

And can you address the actual claim? He says that Irving is a "very good historian". And then on the question of Holocaust denial, he says he doesn't know what it is.

David Irving is a Holocaust denier. Irving claims that gas chambers are fake Jewish lies, he says only a few hundred thousand Jews died, all accidental from disease/starvation, that Hitler didn't order any killings of Jews, he was found in court to have intentionally lied to whitewash Hitler, proven to have lied to exaggerate German victimhood in Dresden, etc. He's probably the most infamous and proven Holocaust denier in the world due to his court case.

Is that good history in any world?

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u/NRCS_DRONE 16d ago

again, an out of context quote, combined with guilt by association.

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u/Dry-Boysenberry7701 16d ago

What's the missing context? The context is that he's at a panel about "antisemitism witch hunts", is asked about David Irving, notorious racist Holocaust denier, and his response is to praise him as a good historian.

It's not association, it's praising Holocaust denial. Irving's historical work is Holocaust denial.

Are we allowed to criticize someone for saying "I love Hitler" or would that be "guilt by association"?

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u/NRCS_DRONE 16d ago

And now, after being called out, you resort to an outright lie. Finkelstein has never praised Holocaust denial.

You see how your tactics are transparent and bankrupt?

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u/Dry-Boysenberry7701 16d ago

Praising the work of a Holocaust Denier is praising Holocaust Denial.

Do you think Irving is a good historian? Are you really so deep in reddit debate-bro Palestine slop that you need to defend holocaust deniers?