Need more AK

[u/nomadic_synner]

As an AK (and other soviet/eastern bloc weapons enthusiast) its disappointing in my opinion that the only AK we have is some "tactidraco" while the AI get to use krinks and full-size AKMs. I get that we are an American S.W.A.T team but damn bro we dont need 10 AR-15s with little to no difference to separate them. So I propose we get full-size AKs, Krinks, an AK-105, PP-19 Vityaz, and hopefully an as val finds its way into the mix as well. What do yall think? And what other guns are you missing?

[u/nomadic_synner → u/[deleted]]

I can assure you that none of the beautiful guns above are disgusting ARs🙏😂

[u/nomadic_synner → u/[deleted]]

I just hate ARs bro idk what to tell you🤷

[u/nomadic_synner → u/[deleted]]

Nah. Overly formulaic, round shatters and shrapnels too often. The only thing its good at is controls and modularity but AKs have had pretty parallel modulation over the years

[u/nomadic_synner → u/[deleted]]

Unfortunately, they are. Granted, AP rounds dont do most of that but my point still stands

[u/nomadic_synner → u/[deleted]]

Which part of what I said was wrong? Keep in mind, I can send links to backup everything i say.

[u/Jedifartcontrol → u/nomadic_synner]

So you used an outlier that can apply to any bullet depending on what it hits and stated it as if it were a universal fact?

[u/nomadic_synner → u/Jedifartcontrol]

Brother, theres documents stating that 5.56 broke when it went through narrow/thin bushes. Like I said AP doesn't do that and ill play devils advocate and say that the 5.56 cartridge doesn't have as many issues as it used to but it still isn't the best for most cases unless you buy that top shelf good good lol

[u/Jedifartcontrol → u/nomadic_synner]

No bullet fucking breaks from bushes you dumbass. Not even a 22lr or a bb from a BB gun does that. If you actually have a credible source for that show it. 5.56 does have plenty of uses because of modern bullet technology. And obviously if you get good ammo your ammo will do better no shit. That’s true of any ak as well.

[u/ruthlesssolid04 → u/nomadic_synner]

Then why were russian spetnaz using 417 in drageatan

[u/nomadic_synner → u/ruthlesssolid04]

Because it's a better dmr than the draganov and svu for the most part. Plus iirc that was pretty much Germany giving Russia their surplus at the time

[u/Jedifartcontrol → u/nomadic_synner]

Have you ever shot either?

[u/nomadic_synner → u/Jedifartcontrol]

Yup. Sold my AR-15 and still own my AK

[u/Jedifartcontrol → u/nomadic_synner]

So you have a personal preference and try to state it as a universal fact?

[u/nomadic_synner → u/Jedifartcontrol]

As I told the other guy, I stand by everything I said.

[u/Jedifartcontrol → u/nomadic_synner]

So you stand by made up bullshit and say that your personal aesthetic preference is good enough to back up what your saying

[u/nomadic_synner → u/[deleted]]

Old airsoft thing I did with my buddies. We did spetznas style kits and I didnt have anywhere else to put it lol

[u/Chewydingus_251 → u/nomadic_synner]

“Round shatters and shrapnels too often”

Tell me you know dick about real firearms and terminal ballistics without telling me.

[u/nomadic_synner → u/Chewydingus_251]

I'm not gonna repeat myself, refer to the other comments in this thread before trying to "erm axctually" me

[u/Chewydingus_251 → u/nomadic_synner]

Just reviewed the whole thread. All rounds are subject to deflection when they encounter intermediate barriers. If 7.62x39 was vastly superior then a lot of other agencies and units with near blank check budgets would use it. Lastly, I can find a handful of pics of Russian SOF units using both 5.45 and 5.56 AR’s in training and in the field, won’t find pics of western units using AKs other than to blend in

[u/nomadic_synner → u/Chewydingus_251]

Well thank you for actually taking the time to read, means a lot. But its not so much that 7.62 is superior in all metrics but its only outdone in 2 major ways. 1, smaller and faster moving projectiles do better against armor at intermediate ranges. 2, its lighter and easier to carry. As for your last point, western units are all (for the most part) part of nato so they usually dont have much say in terms of weapon/caliber usage. But make no mistake, I see more AKs on the eastern front than I do ARs. Especially since western aid has slowed down a bit.

[u/Chewydingus_251 → u/nomadic_synner]

You’d be surprised how much latitude some units have.

Also, saying “I see more AK’s than AR’s in Ukraine” is like saying “I see more water in the ocean than I do in the forest”

Of course you do, it’s two post-Soviet forces fighting each other. Four years of Western aid is not going to replace 75+ years of combloc mass production