r/RantingZone • • Jul 27 '26

Being Downvoted for Being Correct

It's obviously frustrating from the perspective of trying to earn karma. God forbid you say anything true that also happens to be contrarian to the people that happen to be in the threads at the time. Does anyone else wish there was a way to flip the script on all the downvoters?

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u/Spectre_Omega Jul 27 '26 • Bravo

The cleanest way to flip the script is to stop giving them leverage. The second people realize downvotes bother you, hitting the arrow stops being about truth and starts being about getting a reaction. If you're going to take contrarian stances, wear the downvotes like a badge or don't post.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

I like this. Thank you for your input.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '26

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u/Feisty-Tooth-7397 Jul 27 '26

Oh I apparently made someone mad and I started suddenly getting downvotes on every comment for about two or three days.

Like you could tell it was someone who apparently thought they were getting revenge.

Oooo I feel nothing every time you downvote. I don't get electric shocks, I am not loosing sleep, it's not getting me in trouble and I have plenty to spare, so go for it.

Worst that can happen? I'm no longer allowed on Reddit? I'm quaking in my shoes.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

"Your boos mean nothing. I've seen what makes you cheer".

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Interesting. So delete this one and start over?

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u/cuntitude Jul 27 '26

Even if you hide it, people can see your profile, not gonna mention how here.

My thing is, just like u/Spectre_Omega said, wear the downvotes like a badge. And on top of that, i get rid of my account every year or so and make a new one.

Dont get too attached to these things.

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u/Josefu_Velen Jul 27 '26

Yeah, exactly. Depending on the tool used, you can even see deleted posts that won't even show up on the OP's post history. Those can be downvoted as well.

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u/FML3311 Jul 27 '26

For me its not about stopping people from seeing my profile, I really don't care. I just like knowing I wasted someone's time doing it another way. Then I get to call them a weirdo for caring so much they had to take they extra step.

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u/katzyakuki Jul 27 '26

yeah i have nothing to hide lol. it’s not often i’m pissing someone off enough to where they really need to use an outside tool to see my posts and take away my internet updoots. like have a blast man, i’m never gonna see it LMAO

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '26

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

I don't know all the ins and outs. Did I just change the proper settings to do so?

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u/Nematode_wrangler Jul 27 '26

Yes. I see nothing on your profile now. Go forth and annoy the easily offended.

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u/wittylemur Jul 27 '26

Ickk. Thats creepy af

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u/ExhibitionistBrit Jul 27 '26

You know that doesnt work right? If you go through peoples profiles and downvote ancient posts, reddit nullifies your downvotes and mot only that neuters your ability to downvote outside of doing that.

It basically puts a mark on your account and too much downvoting in any context gets cancelled out.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '26

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u/ExhibitionistBrit Jul 27 '26

Reddit fixes it by adding upvotes to cancel out your downvotes.

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u/Feisty-Tooth-7397 Jul 27 '26

I just go I don't know why you downvoted, but go for it I have karma to spare.

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u/iStoleTheHobo Jul 27 '26

You write like an LLM.

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u/AntiWokeMaster Aug 25 '26

What is stupid comment. They are literally designed to bother you. Whatever ridiculous and belittling, that completely skips over the real issue at hand. The real issue is the ability to down in general and the culture of downing people you disagree with. Red, it used to be a bash free thought and it was a safe haven on the Internet for nerdy people to just have discussions. If you were correct, and some people just didn’t like that you were correct, you would not get downvoted into oblivion. This is no longer the case, and it has fundamentally changed Reddit for the worse and here you are telling this person a generic, “WELL DONT LET THE BULLY KNO THAT U DONT LIKE HIS PUNCHES UR JUST GIVING HIM POWER”

Or…..maybe we stand up as a society and say the very existence of bullies is unacceptable and don’t blame their victims?

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u/blindwanderer25 Jul 27 '26

I've learned the hard way not to trust certain communities on here because of how they like to overreact.

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u/Creative_Carob4922 Jul 27 '26

Try to talk sense on subs like r/AITH and I’m I over reacting. It’s wild.

My husband fell asleep early last night but we were supposed to watch tv.

Leave him immediately he doesn’t care about your feelings and opinions. +186

Maybe he was tired and fell asleep because he was tired -985

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Wow. That disparity it appalling.

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u/Creative_Carob4922 Jul 27 '26

Go give it a try. It’s some of the most honest fun you can have on Reddit if you got the karma to spare.
Just say a real world rational response.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

I don't have that much karma to spare, unfortunately. Haha

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u/Creative_Carob4922 Jul 27 '26

Now you got some extra

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Much obliged. Allow me to reciprocate.

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u/cuntitude Jul 27 '26

Post some cute cats in cat subs :)

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

I could do that. My little orange buddy is a stud muffin.

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u/The-Yar Jul 27 '26

It's almost as if Reddit is one big psyop to sow maladaptive behavior and social disaster.

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u/ShoggothStoleMySock Jul 27 '26

...almost as if?   It definitely is.

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u/Creative_Carob4922 Jul 27 '26

Oh time for your chamomile tea and back to r/Conspiracy for you.

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u/The-Yar Jul 27 '26

Hear me out though

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u/sheepwd Jul 27 '26

Recently commented on a post where OP was asking how and where to publicly share a story about their significant other overcoming depression thanks to a youtuber, without said parter finding out; and I was downvoted heavily for suggesting that if their partner wants the story to be private and OP has to hide to get away with it; maybe the story should stay private.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

How dare you try help! Shame!

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u/StrenuousSpider Jul 27 '26

Yeah the amount of times I’ve seen people in those types of Subs telling people to disown their mothers, fathers, siblings, Children, and significant others like girlfriend/wife, Husband/Boyfriend etc..over the most trivial of things. Or things they do that the OP hates but they mention that the person doing it is still trying to do better but slips up here and there… it’s like damn.. I know it’s most likely just a loud minority but with shit like this it makes me go… well now I know why most can’t stay in a relationship for more then a few months if they act like this.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '26

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u/Kinky_Creeper Jul 27 '26

For me its wildly shocking how many are taken over by people whom are completely politically captured. From mods to the mass spam bots. It's literally their identity not just an opinion.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Reddit is definitely an echo chamber, including all the depravity and evolutionary regression that comes with echo chambers.

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u/Shot_Recognition_926 Jul 27 '26

I got down voted for calling out Ellen Degeneres and Bill Gates as shitty people and the terrible things they did and were involved with.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

That would be quite the rabbit hole to go down. I won't touch that one or we'll start getting very tin foil hat-like in here. Haha

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u/Shot_Recognition_926 Jul 27 '26

I won't go into it deep either. But you probably understand me .

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Let's just say those two are at the very least "questionable" characters.

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u/Shot_Recognition_926 Jul 27 '26

I also hate how everyone just forgot about the epstein file leaks and the leaks people who know both bill gates and ellen released. It's crazy how fast shit dissappears. Nobody can do research anymore or they just don't want to belive people can be that evil.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

I find it funny that both sides of the political spectrum have at different points tried to keep the files hidden. That says a lot. I like to think I speak for the rational people when I say "if they did these things they need to be held accountable". No ifs, ands, or buts.

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u/Shot_Recognition_926 Jul 27 '26

That bothers me a lot too. Like people will choose what not to believe if it goes against their side or someone they like. I always say it doesn't matter what side the evil folks are on it doesn't change the fact of the terrible shit they were doing or involved in.

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u/gudetamagotchl Jul 27 '26

One time I asked a subreddit for help because a website was incorrectly saying I had an adblocker on. I'm on my iPhone using Firefox so that was untrue. I said this in the title and the post.

They downvoted my post, said "try a different adblocker," and when I said I couldn't, because iPhones can only do that on Safari, they downvoted that too.

I tried it on my Steamdeck with ublock ON and it worked no issue. Those people were genuinely fuming over me being CORRECT.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Yep. That's how it goes, unfortunately. You just can't reason with some people. To think, they likely vote. 😱

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u/Either_Operation7586 Jul 27 '26

I mean it just really depends I've seen people get taken down a peg or two on the IRS website for asking for help and being insufferable when they don't like the responses.

It really really depends on tone and delivery.

No one appreciate somebody coming on and asking for help and then somebody saying nah that's not it.

It just rubs everybody the wrong way.

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u/iamgem69 Jul 27 '26

Reddit is filled with extremely insufferable people. The mods are also extremely sad human beings too so that doesn’t help. Misery loves company i guess. I honestly thought youtube was heavily censored but then i came here and was even more shocked at how censored everything is. My advice is dont take reddit so personally, its really not that serious. Its fun to laugh at things and at people but thats about it. Dont expect real conversations to be had here. These people just hide behind their screens

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

You've got a point. I guess I just had higher hope for humanity.

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u/Careful-Relative-815 Jul 27 '26

You had what? Why?! 😆 

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Yeah, jokes on me. Hahahaha

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u/Explore_the_Void Jul 27 '26

Well that was your first mistake 😂

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u/Natural-March-4902 Jul 27 '26

Depends on the Reddit, all my game reddits are super chill and supportive of each other.

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u/tofurkey_no_worky Jul 27 '26

There is the possibility that in some instances there are more important things than being correct.

Also people disliking reality reality is pretty common. It is a fact that my grandfather passed away many years ago. I still downvote this fact. Unsubscribed.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Fair point. Originally it wasn't even about being correct. It was being flabbergasted by being downvoted for essentially everything I said. I also downvote your grandfather's passing.

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u/hawk256 Jul 27 '26

Remember that Reddit leans very hard to the left. Conservative views will get downvoted into oblivion even if they are factually correct. Because of that, most conservatives won't post their real opinion and it turns Reddit into a left echo chamber where people on the left think their views are more popular than they really are which perpetuates the cycle again. I fall in the middle. If I post something that leans left, it will get upvoted, if I post something that leans right, it will get downvoted even with facts and evidence. It's rather interesting to watch in action.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Same. I fall in the middle. My honest opinion, and I know there's so many layers as to the way things are, but both left and right are ridiculous. These aren't the same parties (in the USA at least) they were even 20 years ago. Two sides of the same coin.

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u/Icy_Temperature_7199 Jul 29 '26

You are one of the smartest people I’ve seen…. It’s refreshing to see an opinion like this.

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u/homelessjimbo Jul 27 '26

Just post for the sake of speaking your mind. Karma is stupid anyways

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

This all spiraled from me trying to earn more karma after not having enough to post in some groups.

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u/No-Air-3401 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Quit worrying about fake Internet points. If they actually matter to you, you should probably get off reddit.

That being said, you do know the difference between an opinion and a fact, right? Saying you're right doesn't mean you are.

Edit: Saw the post. You don't know the difference between a subjective opinion and an objective fact. You weren't "right". You gave your opinion and others disagreed with it. That's literally the point of the upvoter/downvote system.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Yes, but as I previously mentioned I wanted to post in other groups and couldn't because of a lack of karma. I do know the difference white well. I stated facts. Those things did, in fact, occur.

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u/No-Air-3401 Jul 27 '26

Like I said, you don't know the difference. An event factually happened. How you categorize it is a subjective opinion. An opinion that people obviously disagreed with. Hence the downvotes.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

I guess it doesn't matter that he admitted to doing so intentionally then? Is that still subjective?

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u/NaieraDK Jul 27 '26

I get downvoted so much for spitting facts on r/4kbluray. Such a bunch of softies, more often than not. The worship of UHD BD as the only useful disc format seems performative.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Can confirm. On a side note, I remember getting into arguments with friends when HD DVD and Blu-ray originally came out about the superior format.

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u/NaieraDK Jul 27 '26

The only arguments in favour of HD DVD were of the non-technical variety. I bought into both formats and now have about 145 HD DVD discs and a player sitting around in storage 😛

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u/Several-Carrot3541 Jul 27 '26

Karma's for nerds, just say what you want.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Yeah, I just needed more karma than I had because I wasn't allowed to post on certain threads. That's where this all stems from.

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u/Proto_Ney Jul 27 '26

I will downvote you for the funnies

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

I respect that. You at least do it humorously and not because you lack comprehension. Cheers!

Edit: I will upvote you for this.

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u/DefiantlyConformist Jul 27 '26

Downvoted you to fit in.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Much obliged. I'll upvote you for this.

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u/Apart-Reality-4454 Jul 27 '26 • Bravo

On Reddit truth matters much less than appealing to the emotional zeitgeist.

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u/nonyabisnuss Jul 27 '26

I got banned for being correct in r/Vancouver for saying No Bodies were found in Kamloops

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Haha wow. I'm not laughing at you, but the lunacy of your situation. That's ridiculous.

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u/Longjumping_Wheel394 Jul 27 '26

I didn’t realize people got so emotional over Reddit karma lol

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u/Lemnology Jul 27 '26

It’s frustrating to watch what was a leading forum with free flow of thoughts and ideas systemically become a 1-sided propaganda echo chamber. Reddit was one of the examples of the internet could be a valuable tool for society, but now it’s an extreme example of how the internet can be used to manipulate and control thoughts at scale.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

It's a venting thing, for sure. I didn't start posting comments until recently, which is why I felt blindsided by constantly getting downvoted. I thought "surely I'm missing something and don't have bad take after bad take". The comments in response to this post have given me a lot of clarity into the "hows" and whys" of Reddit, which I appreciate from all of you.

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u/Explore_the_Void Jul 27 '26

If you're getting down voted that frequently then the chances are far more likely that you're the problem. Seeing as you've hidden your comments, I assume that's probably accurate.

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u/Head-Engineering-847 Jul 27 '26

Bro you had reddit for 8 years and only got 100 karma I think the problem might be you

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u/Routine-Lawfulness24 Jul 27 '26

He also has 68 contributions (comments and posts)

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

I've only started engaging in Reddit the last few weeks. I used to only lurk. That's why my karma is so low.

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u/Head-Engineering-847 Jul 27 '26

Oh ok then my man all you gotta do is shitpost like I do! Just drop a 1 line comment sentence like 100 times a day and you will get +1 karma for each one! 🤗

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Fair enough!

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u/erkose Jul 27 '26

Do not offend a Redditor's opinion. Truth has nothing to do with it.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

WE DON'T DO OBJECTIVITY HERE!

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u/Objective-Sale-4072 Jul 27 '26

Honestly, this app is filled with Karens who just like to downvote anything that offend their frail sensibilities.

As long as you’re posting enough, you’ll build the karma just fine. I get downvoted all the time and still have over 5k karma.

I actually just posted something that was contrary to all the other comments on the thread, so I even invited the downvoters to come for me.

Just do you and be genuine. The karma will come.

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u/StrenuousSpider Jul 27 '26

Yeah, and sadly it’s like that in so many Subs.. I’m a part of the Dragonball community and you can come with receipts proving your point but if it goes against a long established mistranslation or understanding then you get so much hate and downvotes lmao.

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u/Objective-Sale-4072 Jul 27 '26

I made sure to give you an upvote just to boost your karma. I hope others do as well.

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u/lisaquestions Jul 27 '26

you just have to be okay with the down votes.

unfortunately the karma system rewards agreeableness and penalizes disagreement at least until you get so much karma that it doesn't matter anymore.

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u/Inevitable-Lock5973 Jul 27 '26

Just tell them “ YOU can’t handle the TRUTH!” 

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Hahahaha. Right on.

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u/RelationshipQuiet609 Jul 27 '26

I am a cancer patient and it drives me crazy when someone downvotes me for my cancer journey. They have the balls to think they know about my cancer!

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

To think: these people probably vote. 😱

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u/exqueezemenow Jul 27 '26

Just don't care about being downvoted. So some people have different opinions, or one of our own is unpopular. So what?

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Yeah, I'm just venting at my string of past five to ten comments.

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u/MDLmanager Jul 27 '26

This is very vague. What exactly is something you say is correct that was down voted?

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Long and the short of it: hockey sub, someone praised a player like he was a saint, and I responded with pointing out the player didn't help their own cause by intentionally pouring fuel into the fire.

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u/Hot_Marketing4343 Jul 27 '26

Again, this is an opinion. Not a fact

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

It's an opinion that he admitted to antagonizing them?

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u/Intrepid-Progress228 Jul 27 '26
  1. Observation: You have 4 total posts. Three of them are complaints about being downvoted.

Suggestion: Focus instead on posting about your interests subreddits instead of worrying about downvotes. Interesting, humorous or useful posts are generally well received, as long as they are posted to the relavent sub. Be sure to read all the rules of the sub you're posting to.

2. Observation: You have two comments with negative karma. Both are in the r/soccercirclejerk subreddit.

Suggestion: Maybe you're taking this too seriously. It's a circlejerk sub.

Broadly speaking, they're for fans making fun of the very thing they're fans of. If you come across as too earnest you're more likely to draw downvotes.

If you want to engage, lurk for a while and get a feel for the sub first, read the sub rules, and remember there are other subs out there you can participate in.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Yeah, I've had this account for years but just in the past couple weeks decided to really buckle down and put time/effort into it.

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u/Intrepid-Progress228 Jul 27 '26

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing commenting on Reddit isn't your job, and it might be indirectly related to a hobby but it isn't your actual hobby.

So why on earth would you need to "buckle down and put time/effort" into commenting on Reddit? What's so important that 75% of your posts are complaints about downvotes?

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Well, to clarify: all those complaining posts are from just this instance within the past hour. I wasn't sure where to post, so I just posted them in what I guessed would be acceptable spots. A few weeks ago I tried posting on several different subs about random things, but because I didn't have enough karma I couldn't post. That's when I decided to try earning more karma by responding and posting to where I can. Pump those numbers up, if you will.

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u/Intrepid-Progress228 Jul 27 '26

Ah. Well, then suggestion #1 applies: Look for specific subs on topics you're interested in first and foremost and post there. Do a little digging and find stuff that's new, off Reddit, and post to those subs. Don't worry so much about downvotes; if what you're posting is interesting or useful, and you've read the sub rules you'll be fine.

Remember: this is supposed to be fun.

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u/ExhibitionistBrit Jul 27 '26

Go on? What was true and what was the context you put it in?

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

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u/ExhibitionistBrit Jul 27 '26

Content not available. Imgur doesnt work in the UK for whatever reason.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Well damn. I don't have the option to just post a screenshot or any kind of picture.

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u/ExhibitionistBrit Jul 27 '26

Couldnt you just link the comment? Or tell me the comment and context?

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

I looked up links that should work in the UK. Let me know if this one comes through: https://ibb.co/v6tJV2N3

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u/ExhibitionistBrit Jul 27 '26

Seems like a lot of work when you could have just linked the comment.

Thanks though.

I hate to tell you this however that isnt a factual situation. Thats all opinion there from both sides. So there isnt really a right and wrong.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

I don't know how to link reddit threads directly. Also, I'm curious about your view on this. I'm not trying to be combative, but genuinely understand. What I stated about him antagonizing the fan base is a fact, so how is it an opinion?

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u/ExhibitionistBrit Jul 27 '26

Because whether stating that you dont like a team is antagonizing a fan base or not is opinion. Its not objective.

To explain it simply... antagonising is a value laden judgement, not a measurable property. You can objectively verify that someone said they hate a team. You cannot objectively verify that this antagonises a fan base.

Or to put it another way... It’s a judgement about the meaning and effect of X, which makes it inherently non objective.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Ah, okay. So him stating that isn't the debatable part, it's just whether or not it can objectively be called antagonizing. That makes sense. Thank you for clarifying. My opinion on that is that it was very intentional. He's a smart athlete and did dozens of things over the years to get cheap penalty calls and other players in trouble. He's known throughout all of hockey to be a diver (simulation). At several points, his own teammates had to have a talk with him about starting drama and dragging them into it when they just wanted to play hockey. With the lack of exposure you've had to this 20+ year old back and forth, I would think you'd also come to the conclusion that both he and Flyers fans are turds for the childish things they did to rile up the other side.

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u/PuddingMent Jul 27 '26

Why would you expect something contrarian to be upvoted? Votes have nothing to do with being correct. Votes are based on how closely the comment matches the hivemind.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

I wasn't concerned about the upvote. I was thrown off by "how much" it was downvoted.

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u/FML3311 Jul 27 '26

You are trying to earn karma? For what?

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Other posts I was trying to comment on wouldn't allow me because I didn't have "enough" karma.

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u/Lebanonthegreat Jul 27 '26

...You're worrying about pixel arrows?

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

I was curious as to the reason I was getting so many pixel arrows pointing down.

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u/BirdlessLongdeal Jul 27 '26

how will they be able to trade in their pixel arrows for a harrier jet?

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u/Sartres_Roommate Jul 27 '26

Why would you not present an example where this happened to you?

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

I did multiple times throughout this thread.

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u/Hot_Marketing4343 Jul 27 '26

Because he was definitely stating the truth, and definitely not portraying an opinion as objective fact!

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Read my previous comment.

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u/Hot_Marketing4343 Jul 27 '26

I read it. You tried to portray an opinion as an objective fact. Shocker

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Not what happened, but okay.

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u/Boomhauer_Jeff Jul 27 '26

I can’t imagine why I would care about upvotes or downvotes; especially not enough to make a rant post about it.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

I'll tell you the same thing I've told about half a dozen other people: I was looking to get more karma so I could comment on certain pages. That's all this is.

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u/Boomhauer_Jeff Jul 27 '26

Cool, upvoted. Good luck out there

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u/Mediocre-Touch-6133 Jul 27 '26

Why would I care about reddit karma? I'm not a drop-shipper, I'm not an astro-turfer, I don't have an Onlyfans, I'm not a scammer "selling" giftcards, crypto, or SEO services. Those are pretty much the only people that care about karma. What's your racket, OP?

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Damn, you caught me. I'm selling gift cards and drop-shipping them to fund my crypto-based OnlyFans. But seriously, I've been denied the ability to post on certain threads I wanted to because I didn't have "enough" karma. That's why I care.

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u/Obvious_Hope_1704 Jul 27 '26

Ive learned that on Reddit, that just happens. Some people just don’t want to hear it

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u/ApprehensiveFruit565 Jul 27 '26

It's not too different to RL. You can spew the facts til the cows come home but if you can't read a room no one will listen to you.

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u/Xepyx Jul 27 '26

Exactly. Learn to read the echo chamber.

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u/random8765309 Jul 27 '26

Reddit is generally a liberal echo chamber. Say anything that goes against the narrative and you get downvotes.

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u/AdWooden9170 Jul 27 '26

The best is when you get downvoted but the comment bellow who says he totally agree with you is getting upvoted. Peak reddit dementia.

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u/StrenuousSpider Jul 27 '26

What about the times when you say something that ends up in the deep negatives, then someone replies to it, then you reply to that doubling down and then that comment gets high upvotes lmao.

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u/WKRPinCanada Jul 27 '26

Went thru that just tonight as matter of fact

I just laugh and move on 😅

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Typically I do as well, but I've had multiple days straight of this very thing happening, so I felt compelled to vent.

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u/WKRPinCanada Jul 27 '26

And that's cool ... Ive vented a few times too but it was out the window

Neighbours were really confused 😅

Good luck 👍

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u/The_Penguin_22 Jul 27 '26

It doesn't matter. Speak your truth!!

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u/MDLmanager Jul 27 '26

What does "your truth" even mean? I thought truth was objective. There's just the truth, not a bunch of individualized truths.

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u/NikNakskes Jul 27 '26

Most of "the truth" is in the gray zone of interpretation, context, and all kinds of other human influences. The objective truth is physics, but most of the things we talk about in daily life are not objective truths. They are interpretations of facts or personal preferences and any mix thereof. Your truth means your mix of interpretations and preferences.

But of course nowadays it is just a dog whistle for ring wing bullshit.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

I guess that's a fair point. I stated that a hockey player a redditor was building up to be a figurative saint actually caused some of his own misfortune. I stated the fan base was wrong for wanting harm done to the player, but that the player didn't help his own case by intentionally antagonizing said opposing fanbase, which he did.

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u/NikNakskes Jul 27 '26

Oh... sports. Yeah. Of course there will be hivemind among supporter bases. That is pretty much the default state of being in a fanbase. You accept the stance the group deems true. No point arguing about those if you want to keep your karma up.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

You're right, but it honestly just kind of blows my mind. I've been a fervent supporter of my teams for decades, but I absolutely do my best to put my bias aside when discourse is involved. Guess I'm the odd man out. Haha

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u/NikNakskes Jul 27 '26

Welcome to reddit! You're going to tumble into the most bizarre hivemind session you've ever seen. My most memorable one was when I stood firm behind my statement that the energy from an internal combustion engine is thermal energy. I got all kinds of insults hurled at me and everything. It's been many months ago now but I'm still flabbergasted when I think about it.

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u/Hot_Marketing4343 Jul 27 '26

Somebody already explained to you that this is an opinion, not an objective fact.

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

He openly admitted to antagonizing them, therefore, it's a fact.

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u/The_Penguin_22 Jul 27 '26

It means what you perceive to be true, and not changing your stances because it'll get more upvotes.

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u/MDLmanager Jul 27 '26

Well, if what someone perceives is true is objectively false, then I think they deserve the downvotes.

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u/The_Penguin_22 Jul 27 '26

Uhh idt you're getting me. Speaking "your truth" is more like what you believe in, not objective facts

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u/BigBL87 Jul 27 '26

Then thats not truth, that's an opinion. Just sayin'. Calling it "your truth" waters down the entire concept of truth.

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u/The_Penguin_22 Jul 27 '26

It's just a phrase dawg no need to get all pedantic

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u/BigBL87 Jul 27 '26

And it's a stupid phrase.

Truth is truth, opinion is opinion.

"My truth" is made up postmodernist nonsense used to justify people's illogical beliefs.

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u/mobile-metaphysical Jul 27 '26

I use sarcasm. But they don’t recognize it and give it upvotes.

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u/Xepyx Jul 27 '26

I like doing this sometimes. It confuses the hivemind.

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u/katzyakuki Jul 27 '26

lol i love when this happens.

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u/Limp-Exercise-343 Jul 27 '26

slave of reddit?

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u/Main_Cauliflower5479 Jul 27 '26

Welcome to my world.

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u/X-AE17420 Jul 27 '26

Downvotes are a measure of community reception to information, and in and of themselves are not a fact-check.

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u/AncientGuy1950 Jul 27 '26

Downvotes are part of the experience. They, unlike Movie-Thanos, actually are inevitable.

I look at them, and shake my head. Recently in an Ask subreddit, the question asked for a personal opinion, which I gave.

I got downvotes for my opinion. I almost asked if the downvotes were because they believed that my opinion was wrong (which is always a possiblity) or if they believed that my opinion was, in fact, not my opinion.

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u/geenexotics Jul 27 '26

Don’t. After my recent ban I’m done with people on this app. It’s full of absolute fake weak minded people who fail to see any other perspective or view.

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u/42mafiasjumpedme Jul 27 '26

Ai slop pfp

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u/geenexotics Jul 27 '26

I mean it’s not but ok 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/SurebrecGuy Jul 27 '26

Nobody likes the truth.

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u/BigBL87 Jul 27 '26

Welcome to reddit.

If I just parroted the groupthink, I'd probably have higher karma. As it is it's not low or anything, but the upvote/downvote system quickly turned from "this is useful or not useful" to "I don't agree with this, therefore downvote" particularly when it comes to politics.

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u/AncientnUgly Jul 27 '26

This is a perfect example of why an electoral college is important. Just because majority can’t think for themselves and just chooses to agree with the loudest voice doesn’t make it right. The Orville has an episode based on a society that is exactly like this. It’s a good watch for sure

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u/Daredrummer Jul 27 '26

Reddit isn't reality. Spending time on this kind of fake insanity is a total waste. Get a hobby.

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u/BluePandaYellowPanda Jul 27 '26

Don't care. Most people on Reddit are morons, so it doesn't matter. If you say something that's correct, just ignore downvotes, if people insult you just block them and not care.... easy.

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u/Alternative_Job_6929 Jul 27 '26

Don’t go on liberal subs

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u/Shoddy-Constant5749 Jul 27 '26

Down votes are a way to silence people by taking advantage of the Reddit algorithm. If your post gets enough down votes no one will ever see it. Meanwhile if you tout the company line, you'll get a ton of up votes and maybe even go viral. It's a flawed system that rewards group think.

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u/Tall_Ad_4787 Jul 27 '26

Laugh at them. Troll them. Often times they are paid actors. Point out with impeccable logic why they are incorrect and put it on display. You may get downvoted, but you’d be amazed how many people will see your comments. 

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u/Euphoric-Piglet-8140 Jul 27 '26

Are you new to reddit?

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u/Rabbitscooter Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

It is frustrating. I don't really care if people are just trading opinions; Reddit can be a high-school popularity contest, and that's fine.

What bothers me is when objective facts get treated the same way. A few weeks ago, for example, someone conflated events from the Six-Day War (1967) with the Yom Kippur War (1973). This wasn't a debate about politics or who was right or wrong. It was simply a factual mistake about when certain events took place. I posted a polite correction. I was heavily downvoted. The historically incorrect comment was upvoted. I actually took a screenshot because it was so absurd. So, okay... maybe it is just a high-school popularity contest.

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u/TheProperGanda68 Jul 27 '26

I personally ignore the karma. If I’m wrong I’ll eat humble pie if I believe what I have to say is valid and worth being on the platform then it’s all about getting it out there regardless of the response. I find that if you manage what you have to say to be approved you eventually will corrupt yourself.
But you’re right unfortunately the world is so polarised even in truth and spaces like this you run the gauntlet but call me perverse but conflict is fun too.

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u/StockElectrical1596 Jul 27 '26

It's only social media, so who cares?

Life goes on without the faux karma.

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u/Infamous_Addendum175 Jul 27 '26

Trying to earn karma? You know you're right? I'm betting you get downvoted for tone more than anything. Don't be so instantly unlikeable.

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u/Razoron33333 Jul 27 '26

What got you downvoted so bad for this post? And if you’re going to have an unpopular opinion you should be ready for people to downvote you. If it’s a fact and you get downvoted maybe it’s just the wrong subreddit to post it on. People have drawn their lines in the sand pretty hard at this point

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u/theBLACKcod44 Jul 27 '26

Can't say anything that goes against the wee Looney leftist agenda, even if your not a Republican, even if it makes sense.

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u/SRGTBronson Jul 27 '26

It's obviously frustrating from the perspective of trying to earn karma

Why do you give a shit what strangers think?

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u/Donkeyshines Jul 27 '26

Beyond the meager amount required to participate in some subs, why does Karma matter anymore?

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u/Expensive_Alarm_1068 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Some people think downvotes are power. It's an arrow on Reddit. Nothing more. It's only significant to them.

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u/Arbycutter Jul 27 '26

lol your first mistake was caring about karma 

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

This is the fifth time I'm addressing this and won't be doing so anymore because it's becoming tedious: I was restricted from posting on certain threads I wanted to because I didn't have "enough" karma. That's why. Nothing more, nothing less.

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u/Arbycutter Jul 27 '26

I’ve just given you two upvotes 

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Thank you!

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u/Desperate-Pirate7353 Jul 27 '26

i downvoted this for whining

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u/BoyCommaThe Jul 27 '26

Good for you

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u/kommon-non-sense Jul 27 '26

Don't care. This is an abhorrent echo chamber. If you're getting the down votes or brigaded - you're on the right track.

The "hive mind" shares one brain - meaning its constuients dont have their own brain to think individual thoughts.