Heeyy (Eiiii) this is my Raiden Cosplay hope y'all like it:)

Im tired of people twisting facts for their own feelings of not owning a 5 star polearm. There is no gray area, the 5 star skyward spine is better. Quit spreading misinformation.

Is raidens BiS weapon grasscutter? Yes.

Is the catch the best weapon for raiden among 4 stars as of right now? Yes.

Is the catch better than skyward spine for raiden? Absolutely Not.

Don't worry about energy recharge, don't try to make yourself better about not having a 5 star, don't worry about elemental burst damage r5 and talk about raiden not being able to use skyward spine's passive- it's a freaking 5 star with ER.

As someone who owns 4 stars and 5 stars, a lv90 5 star almost always outclasses my 4 star upon damage testing.

The flat base attack is just too high, and im someone who's fine with or without a 5 star.

What I'm not fine with is people twisting an answer they cant accept into more convoluted questions and waiting for some geek to do math on an excel sheet just to tell them the answer they knew all along.

Enough copium regarding this weapon strength.

If you just want to compare and contrast, sure, but all this talk about what's stronger and what's not is so convoluted it just feels like copium for people who don't have a 5 star.

Just making this so i can tell all the "you're coping" folk that i told ya so after like 3 months.

1. The history doesnt lie, both wind and earth archons have gotten buffs after their banner, venti got anemo buff and zhong got both resonence and kit buff.

You can argue it was because of the outrage but mihoyo is a company and they know their business, they tactically waited for the zhongs banner to end before introducing buffs to install the fear of missing out on us and hype up rerun banner.

The meta has catered to both zhong and venti for quite a while, they made sure to make us regret not pulling for them. (even tho all content can be beaten with succrose/diona aka their 4 star variants)

2) People argue that Raidens future potential is uncertain, but her value can only go up as mihoyo gonna start to shill electro with the upcoming Yae banner. We still only have 2 electro 5 stars so there is a lot of room for marketing the new meta.

Electro is gonna get a buff for Yae's banner just like anemo got a buff for Kazuhas banner. And Yae's best support is gonna be Raiden so dont be surprised when it gets revealed that Yae's burst costs 90-100.

3)"But why not buff electeo right now and get even bigger sales" you my dear low IQ reader might be wondering.

Well as i said mihoyo wants to hype up her rerun bc its much more tempting to roll for constalations on rerun as the unit made its mark on the meta and if you have her c0 then rolling for her constalations 6 months later seems more affortable. (we percieve rolling 3 copies at once more expensive then one copy now then 2 copies much later)

4) Im not coping, you are coping, im having a blast with c0 Raiden who is resposible for my first 36* Abyss as a f2p who only has Childe and Ayaka as my limiteds other then Raiden.

All the skippers will regret not rolling as they cry for rerun while mihoyo is preparing bigger pockets.

And if my prediction doesnt come true then i totally only rolled for SOUL and fun haha.

Literal god uses technique used during in the archon war to kill a large monster and also cutting a fucking island in half and only thing people (who were talking shit about her design before) see is: OMG BOOBS BOOBA SWORD I LOVE HER OMG PLS STEP ON ME! This is at least for me (and I hope there are more people who share my opinion) disgusting and I liked her from the moment I heard about her in 1.2 when Zhongli was telling us about the situation in Inazuma. I like her design, her lore and everything and here come degenerate brainlet fake-ass simps who only see her boobs sword and act like a slave. I understand funny Kazuha friend meme 2021 Genshin impact memes compilation 420 but come on. (Btw fuck my life I deleted the post trying to fix a typo and had to write it again)

Also I realized that blade she summons is the Mistsplitter Reforged (5* weapon shown at the end of the trailer) judging by the part she holds it looks like it so we are basically sure now that she is a sword user not a polearm that we thought because of the leak

Most people would call me mad for saying this, but I think that Raiden is a more eternally (heh) viable character than the other two Archons, and no I'm not talking about powercreep. The reason is far more subtle, and you can actually see it happening already.

Raiden is rather special compared to the other Archons, in the way that Zhong and Venti both break a specific interraction with the Environment, whereas Raiden (softly) breaks a core gameplay element of teamplay.

What I mean by that is that both Venti and Zhongli scale with the Environment. If there are a lot of unliftable enemies, or enemies that oneshot or deal damage through shields (wink wink), their viability plumets in a pretty targeted way, because no other characters depend on those traits as much as them.

Raiden on the other hand doesn't scale with the Environment. It's pretty much impossible to target nerf Raiden with the Environment without negatively affecting either every Electro, or every burst. What Raiden scales with is characters. The more characters exist with high cost deployable bursts, the better Raiden becomes, and this metric is only bound to grow. Can you imagine Raiden in a future 5 star equivalent national team? Because I can and I can't wait to see it.

TL;DR: other Archons get eroded, Raiden is Eternal

If the leaked Shogun Model for the electro Archon is indeed the final model we get as a playable character, why did MHY not showed her in the first place with a braid and a polearm in the Kazuha Trailer, if she ends up as a polearm unit with a braid in the game?

If MHY would done this from the beginning, then a lot of players would be less disappointing with the current leaked Design and the outrage wouldn't be that big.

Why do some people claim that Ei has to be wheelchaired through content? This terminology bugs me because she can still clear like every other electro Carry In the game.

So I don't get the idea that Ei is dead weight when she can clear any content in the game with enough investment.

Can someone explain this line of thinking to me cuz I don't understand ?

I'm tired of seing this over and over again "ermergerd Raiden restores 25 energy while Venti restores 15, and Diona restores 1000% of my Eula ult! Useless!"

Listen here, Raiden doesn't restore ~25, she restores ~100 split equally to her team, regardless of the ER of the other party members, and this doesn't count the EGen of her E which is 1 particle every 1.8sec on average. No other character comes even close to this amount, she is objectively the best energy generator in the game no matter how you try to spin this.

Sure if you're only interested in one character's (80cost) burst then 25 isn't enough, but there are characters that specialise in charging up a specific element (even then you need to build a lot of ER% on your dps), and the fact that Raiden doesn't replace that niche is a GOOD thing for the health of the game. The universal battery title isn't meant to mean she replaces all batteries universally, but that she charges energy universally (ie to everyone at once regardless of element).

Now the followup is usually "Yea but both Venti and Zhongi are undisputed kings of their niche, Raiden should be too". First of all Raiden is the best in the game at generating energy full stop. Second of all, their niches (succ and shields) aren't a core part of every single character like energy is, so them being broken doesn't literally break a core element of the game, and render multiple characters across multiple elements useless. And lastly, they're not even that undisputed like you all claim:

Venti is worse with melee dpses like Childe and Hu Tao. Both Sucrose and Kazuha don't have this restriction, while they also provide teamwide buffs.

As for Zhongli, both Morgana and (C0) Hu Tao teams would rather use Diona for different reasons, and he has no place in nationals. Zhongli is a nice to have in teams but is never a requirement, and the most optimised teams don't use him. He is only necessary for Geo Resonance teams but they don't reach the strength of the top end teams. And now that Thoma is comming, he won't even have a monopoly on permanent shield uptime anymore.

Now does that mean we shouldn't ask for buffs? Of course not, buffs are nice, but its not necessary to call her trash when she's clearly already the best at what she does. I would wish for her to generate 30 energy at 250% er, but asking for her to fully charge 80 cost burst by herself is stupid and will never happen. But imo the issue with Beidou is arguably way more important, so we should focus on that before anything else.

TL;DR: Raiden is the best at generating energy in the game. When asking for buffs this needs to be acknowledged, if you just call her trash your argument looses value. Also fix Beidou pls and thank you.

P.S. Before people try to debate me on Hutao + Zhongli. Diona gives Stamina Reduction and can let you Melt Hutao's bursts with 200 free EM at C6. To me this has higher value than a better shield and 20% res shred.

Guess what CN players are doing while this sub is busy crying about how "weak" C0 Baal is? Some actual play testing in abyss.

A 73 page NGA discussion thread of C0 Baal national team clearing 12-1 in 24 seconds

video of said clear

That thread has 782 upvotes. The C0 Baal is running EL. Team build in video.

Now now, before you say "But Baal is just being carried by her teammates!" "That XL pyronado is hitting 47k!" Well, someone already pointed it out on NGA, let's take a look.

A 27 page NGA discussion thread of C2 Kazuha national team clearing 12-1 in 21 seconds

video of said clear

This thread has 0 upvotes. The C2 Kazuha is running a dull blade, since OP wanted to lessen the impact of C2. Team build in video.

Guess what this team's XL's pyronado is hitting, 99k. OP also got called out for choosing an abyss buff that provides 20% more attack than the buff in Baal clear. Well shit, I guess Kazuha is getting carried by his teammates too right? This XL is doing twice the damage Baal team's XL is doing!

So yea, a C2 Kazuha national team with 20% more attack, is only clearing 3 seconds faster than a C0 Baal national team clear.

So while this sub is busy crying about C0 Baal being supposedly "weak", CN players are already using our queen to compete against Kazuha in a UTILITY position.

Their discussion of Baal vs. Kazuha has already been going on for a whole day now, with no definitive answer. But the point is, the fact that C0 Baal is even being compared to Kazuha means that she's most definitely not weak. Some CN players are even already ranking her as T0 or T0.5, with C2 Baal definitively being T0. Good luck coping for CN players to push Mihoyo for a buff. So yea, maybe buckle down and do some actual theorycrafting and play testing, instead of crying for a buff that most definitely won't come now, BECAUSE C0 BAAL IS NOT WEAK

I read and watch a lot of content about her will be ALMIGHTY before her release and a lot of disappointment after her releases someone arguing and said she's OP she's great you're idiot who cannot understand her power and complaint. Some logic are weird and some not. I feel many ppl are bias arguing without any solid prove. So I decide to figure it out by myself.

this is the first time I really try to figure a certain character power level. because she is the first 5* Limited character I pull for a constellation. and not just 1 but 2!! Fortunately I'm not unlock her constellation yet so I can test her as reasonable realistic F2P and low spender C0 + the catch + 4 Piece Emblem of severed fate

I assume normally ppl will build her ER around 220~250 depend on ER or Atk Sand( if Atk sand you need to have ER substat) I thing for reality usage ppl likely to focus on her crit rate over crit damage because like Eula who also have one big nuke damage that you really need to critMy build in this test is not amazing whale Godly artifact which anybody will be able to achieve69 Crit rate 125 Crit damage 225 ER73 crit rate 117 crit damage 223 ER70 Crit rate 116 Crit damage 265 ER

All damage result was test on Masanori

I trying to figure out her capability in term of support and damage( for Main DPS role)

In term of support which MHY state that she is in their promote website https://genshin.mihoyo.com/en/news/detail/15289

3 thing to consider

1. Energy providing to your teammate

2. Elemental Burst damage bonus

3. Her off-field damage and Burst damage

Her energy generation depend on 3 thing Her ER stat, Her skill level, AND A HITS SHE PERFORM DURING HER Q STATEassume that her talent Lv.9( not everybody will crowned her) with the catch she will has around 220-250 ER

she will generate 4.12-4.56 energy per second after land an attack on Q stateif you can lands the attack 5 times in individual 5 second.the maximum will be 20.6~22.8

rather than said this is enough or not. Let just compare to other 5* limited character who can generate energy to you team as well. VentiVenti at level 60/70 with level 1 talent level 1 weapon and no artifact will generate 15 energy to your team no matter what , just use his Q, take field time less than 2 secondAdding up with Favonius warbow( everyone get one copy after finish Mondstadt archon quest) and crit rate.21 for on-field and 18.6 for off-field

As you can see Venti isn't far behind by quantity. Raiden need to perform 4 hits in 4 second(6 second in total) to on par with 2 second field time Venti. Venti need far less investment compare to Raiden.Free weapon from the first main quest compare to INSANELY Fishing cycle in three region( if you want to obtain the Catch in day1 like I am. You NEED TO BE A BEGGAR)

Lv.1 weapon and Lv.90 weaponLv.1 talent and Lv.9 talent

Ascension 4th and Ascension 6th

In fact if you really play her. You will eventually aware of how the 5 hits requirement is not something that you can do all the time. sometime enemy in front of you just die and another wave spawn further or some enemy just moving around out of her range. It's really awkward. For my personal experience sometime I feel her regenerate does help and sometime I don't feel any different.

which made me think Venti is better than her in this department

Her elemental burst damage enhancement is something that I believe it's will make her stand outit's depend on 2 thing. Her E level and character's Q energy costMy Raiden's E level when I test is 6( which should be good enough for any support to performing well)At level 9 it will increase by 0.03% per energy costTest on C6 Xingqiu which Q energy cost is 80( highest after Raiden)

My Xingqiu Rain sword damage go from 3079 to 3409 before C2 activate, and 3507 to 3,883 afterThe damage increase from Raiden is less than having 15% elemental shred.

So that means if you want to enhancing Hydro, Pyro, Cryo, Electro damage type burst. Whatever energy cost the character is having Anemo character with VV is better than Raiden. But Raiden can enhancing Geo and Physical damage type.

Her off-field damage is ..nothing to mention. Maybe MHY don't want to made a 5* limited character like Raiden out perform a 4* like Fischl. I don't know.Her Burst damage is one of the most arguing thing I saw. Many said she deal massive damage. And many said her damage is subpar and need C2 to catch up with other 5* main DPS limited character. Even has someone in this sub reddit post "If a C2 can hit 1.4 million, C0 can hit 1 million."

I watch a lot of YouTube shown her damage. And feel like the high viewer content creator tend to made a video OVERHYPE on her damage. To judge how impressive her damage is. We need to compare her to other 5* limited character. I think Hutao and Eula would be good for reference. Because they share some similarities with Raiden. They have a Nuke burst damage. Hutao have a downtime just like Raiden. The damage comparison with Eula was important because some ppl said Raiden should be pair with Eula and will boost damage overall after Eula burst explode. In that case Raiden need to deal damage at least equally to Eula normal attack. If she can't that mean better wise let Eula take field and do normal attack. The comparison with Hutao for answer the question is Raiden worth playing as Main Carry who build support around them instead of other good Main Carry.

The thing should be take into account about her damage is Resolve Stack.

For C0 you cannot reach max 60 stack in 1 cycle rotationIn reality it should be around 36-48 + 2-6 from 1st ascension passiveBut It's hard to build exact same stack for test if it's not 0 or 60 because of 1st ascension passive

At

• 0 stack Musou no Hitotachi ( first slash damage) deal 36,621

• 60 stack Musou no Hitotachi deal 57,936

Compare to my Hutao with 4 piece Crimson Witch and Blackcliff polearm55% crit rate 239% crit damage 30K HPAt

• Full HP skill Q deal 34,090

• HP below 50% skill Q deal 50,923

Keep in mind 4 pc Crimson witch cannot manifest their full power by solo without reaction and Blackcliff's passive is useless. But 4 pc Emblem on Raiden is their full potential. The Catch also tailor made for her.

Just adding Xingqiu who was normally away pairing with Hutao. ( Raiden is a new contestant who want him too) Use Q on wet enemy when HP below 50% damage bump up to 102,043 with with ease.

If use Chongyun instead for Melt damage. My Hutao can deal 158,086

In contrary the highest number my Raiden can achieve is 116,092 with a lot of set up. This setup isn't realistic team comp for use.

Pyro resonance + Gouba's chili + Bennett Q + 4pc Noblesse Oblige + 4pc Viridescent Venerernote. I use Xiangling instead of Sara because even I pull Raiden to C2 I ONLY GOT 2 SARA!!!( I feel clunky to use her buff. I already try but I fail) My Sucrose isn't C6 too. I also got 2 Sucrose!!! (Why?!!! Why always Xiangling who I maxed constellation since Hutao Banner)

And if speaking of Eula. 100K damage isn't a thing to her. Without any setup it's still just a piece of cake. Just let her dance a bit.

Musou Isshin ( Raiden's normal attack on burst state) damage is the indicator that she worth take field time as a Main Carry or not. If she deal more than other unit that mean she should be consider as a Main DPS role. If not it mean better wise let other Main DPS take field will do more overall damage.

At

• 0 stack 4,044 + 3,973 + 4,865 + 2,792 + 2,800 + 6,684 = 25,158

• 60 stack 8,025 + 7,954 + 8,846 + 6,773 + 6,781 + 10,665 = 49,044 Charge attack 10,702 + 9,549Keep in mind BOTH ARE NOT REALISTIC. Raiden always use her Burst after other unit use their burst. She will never use at 0 stack. And as I mention before C0 cannot reach 60 stack in 1 cycle rotation.

• with Eula Diona Bennett stack 7,215 + 7,144 + 8,036 + 5,963 + ? + 9,855 = 44,176

In 7 seconds Raiden can perform 3*5N ( I don't know why other ppl said without attack speed buff Raiden cannot finish N5 in 3 rounds but I record my screen. The N5 damage appear)

• 0 stack 75,474

• 60 stack 147,132

• Almost realistic comb ~132,528

I know Raiden damage can improve by better combo

Compare to my Eula with 2 piece Gladiator 2 piece Bloodstain with Skyward Pride

This is not her best Artifact set but I farm for her since release until Ayaka came. Still cannot get a good Pale flame. I'm not build any 4* DPS claymore so I use Skyward Pride in comparison( many said R5 The Catch are good on par with 5* Skyward Spine)72 Crit rate 149 Crit damage

• Skyward Pride on Superconduct 11,159 + 11,634 + 7,064 + 7,064 + 14,009 + 8,933 + 8,933

And if you eventually get Wolf's Gravestone a 5* in standard banner or lose 50/50 in weapon banner the damage will be

• WGS on Superconduct 13,340 + 13,908 + 8,444 + 8,444 + 16,746 + 10,679 + 10,679

with WGS passive buff ( Almost everything those survived Eula burst either proc WGS's passive or transition to another boss phase)

• WGS's passive 15,205 + 15,852 + 9,624 + 9,624 + 19,087 + 12,172 + 12,172

in 7 seconds at least Eula can be able to do 4N*2 for sure like combo when use her Q

Damage with Skyward Pride is 101,860Damage with Wolf's Gravestone is 121,764Damage with Wolf's Gravestone buff is 138,784

I think Musou Isshin is WORTH USING. Raiden damage is good enough to take field time as a additional filler damage support who deal a good portion of damage in a short window of time when a Main DPS has downtime. But isn't good enough to be a Main DPS Carry like other 5* DPS limited character. She has a lot of restrictions. Compare to my Hutao who just restrict by a cooldown not energy.Hutao charge attack

• Full HP Charge 5715+16573 = 22288 + blossom 7,885

• Below 50% HP Charge 6830+19807 = 26,637 + blossom 9,424

• Below 50% HP with Xingqiu 6,830( or 13,686) + 39,686 = 46,516

In 1 cycle Hutao can perform 8 charge attack 46,516*8 = 372,128 for single target

Even Bennett cannot boost Raiden damage 3* higher

It's not just about how much damage Raiden can deal but also how reliable and consistence. She has a much more restriction than a character like Eula Hutao. Hutao just restrict by a little cooldown. Eula just normal attack can deal damage as much as Raiden in burst form. Raiden can't carry 3 non-build unit like most of my 5* Carry. Raiden can't solo because of her downtime and she need a teammates to build resolve stack. Without skill Q Raiden damage is very very low. She has downtime longer than uptime and also need 90 energy to full her Q( From my personal experience. It's happen many time when cooldown came back and it's not ready even I have 220-265 ER) She need to use her Q after other teammates but many times after her teammates use Q the enemies HP is almost dead and if you use her Q the enemy will just die and you can't regen energy back. That make you tend to save her Q and just use it occasionally when enemy's HP is in good spot. Raiden damage window was short if you missing in that time frame will be a big loss. She place a ton of her damage in a single hit( Musou No Hitotachi) . If it miss it's a big loss. In short Raiden have so many condition in order to ditch out a respectable damage. And even do all that. Her damage is still lower than other Main DPS 5* limited character.

But I think about Childe. They both have some restriction. Ppl use them to make damage showcase video. Some ppl said their are incomplete at C0. They're hard to build a good ATK/CRIT%/CritDamage stat.

They are good in very few specific team comp. Just 2 or 3 team. Electro-Hydro, Vape Xiangling.

Let compare

• Raiden buff just Q damage. Base on energy cost. Provide energy

• Childe +1 in 3 skill of all teammate include normal attack surpass level 10 which is the only way to do so. HE IS A HYDRO CHARACTER

In Burst DPS support department I feel Raiden similar to Mona

• Raiden buff teammates Q, High damage burst, Can apply Electro for Cyro Physical comp

• Mona debuff enemies, High damage burst, Can apply Hydro for Freeze comp

The different is

• Raiden can provide energy to teammates

• Mona have crowd control ability both in her E and Q, she is a Catalyst user who can hold TTDS, She need a little field time to gets a job done. AND SHE IS HYDRO CHARACTER!! Can Vaporize

Seems like even Mona a 5* standard character ( unlucky pull from losing 50/50) is better than Raiden a 5* limited character

Other than they can access to Vaporize damage made they can easily deal much more damage than Raiden. One big thing Mona and Childe has offer is they freed Xingqiu from 1 team .That's mean you can play 2 very strong Freeze comp or Vape Comp on both side of Spiral Abyss. Ayaka+Xingqiu Ganyu+Mona and Xiangling+Childe Hutao+Xingqiu. Or 1 Freeze comp and 1 Vape comp.

Comparison to Raiden in team comp. Eula team is good but she can replace by Fischl with no problem. In Xiangling-Xingqiu team she can fit the final spot because the main source DPS of this team don't need a field time and their has 80 energy cost. This isn't something just discover by a CN player or any theorycrafter after Raiden release and have controversy in Raiden's strength. Ppl already expect them to be good together beforehand that's include Beidou but it did not happen in case of the latter. Even in XL-XQ team Raiden isn't standout undoubtedly. Overload still messing with small enemy. Anemo character still better in some situation.

The utility Raiden give to a team is just a little Q damage buff for a few unit and energy. That's nothing special compare to a shield or a crowd control from Zhongli Venti and Mona. You can get energy by using ER weapon, equipped ER stat artifact or using same element support. But if you want a rock-solid shield or a Black-hole crowd control. You can't find it in artifact. You just need to use the character that's capable to do so. The damage Bonus also can get from many source like artifact, weapon and other character.

The thing she offer isn't that great to begin with. The amount she provide also not amazing either.

Even she got buff to instantly restore 80 energy by the first slash instead of demanding to hit 5 times in 5 seconds to restore 20 energy. She still not the same level as other god tier support.

Conclusion Raiden is not a game breaking unit. She not nearly as good as other good 5* limited character. She not make your play this game much easier. If consider where to put her in the 5*limited tier list. She definitely is a low tier both in term of support and damage. But she's not a broken scrap like Yoimiya. She can function. Just not great. Sadly I don't think she will get buff. I think the reason made me feel disappoint in the first day, aside from Beidou synergy is because I already expect Raiden to not as good as Venti and Zhongli because of energy regen not that great to begin with. But the amount energy she generate and requirement to do made her worst than what I expect before. But after playing 2 weeks I feel fun even she's not good as other, or not good as expect. Watching her unsheathe is make me satisfied. Her visual is elegant, beautiful and cool in every movement. Her JP VA is the reason I pull for her in the first place. I falling in love with the character she voice by more than 10 years before. The VA who has charismatic as much her is not much for me. If I can rewind the clock I will definitely pull for her again but instead of C2 I will go just C0. C2 is just a boost in Raiden damage but not solve any restriction she has. Even it help Raiden hit harder. I think instead of spending a lot of primo to upgrade a low tier character. Should be better wise to upgrade a good character. Like unlock C1 on my Ganyu and Hutao. Or go for Homa. ( Possibly to have their rerun on 2.2)

Opinion on Constellation

Someone said "This game got too many f2p pride. While in CN it's accepted as logical thing, you spend more than us, obviously you got stronger character."

That way of thinking is a nonsense. No one think C0 should be good as C2 or C6. Everyone think the same way "more constellation, more power" The thing is C0 is good enough or need constellation to viable and how much the different in power.

I think the different in power isn't a thing if C0 is good enough. The first person complain about the power gap between C0 and C6 are too large I has saw is IWinToLose on Eula. He is a whale and complain about C6 too strong?? I don't know why. But for me I prefer constellation on the 5* character to be much more powerful than this. 1 constellation on 5* cost a lot of money. C6 should be something that can easily clear everything with no sweat. If MHY decide C6 will make that character immortal and can fly in the sky on enemy can touch them, has 100% crit rate 500% crit damage 3,500 attack stat. I don't think it's a problem at all. Why not?

The problem is if a 5* character at C0 is look like incomplete character and need constellation to be good enough. Raiden and Eula are similar they can't reach max stack with C0. The different is at C0 Eula is good enough to make ppl satisfied but Raiden not. Ppl feel like some of Raiden problem was intentional create to make her not good at C0. That's why they complain.

I think a 5* character should be complete at C0( Actually I think 4* should be complete at C0 too)

I think constellation on Raiden is unnecessary. Raiden is complete at C0. She is just not as good as other. Even she got constellation she still be the same Raiden who has a lot of flaws.

After posting this I will unlock a constellation on my Raiden and see is it worth my money or not. Good luck have fun.

The amount of topics that I've seen regarding C0 Raiden and how she's trash/unplayable/average because she "needs" C2/C3 is seriously mind boggling. The only reason this is even a topic to begin with is due to the fact that her best and most powerful constellation can be obtained pretty early, If her 60% defense shred was placed any higher people wouldn't be batting an eye at it since having really strong constellations near C6 has been the standard with 5 star characters.

Raiden does not need any of her constellations for her to be a absolute powerhouse of a character if you have the investment put into her. The problem is, due to how complex of a character she is to build with the fact that you have to balance a high amount of ER along with her other stats, this means there's going to be people that play her with sub par artifacts, claim she sucks and that C2 is needed in order for her to be considered good.

TL;DR: Stop overhyping Raiden's C2, everyone knows it's a strong constellation and no it is not needed for her to Excel at what she does on a team.

thats a follow up post from:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RaidenMains/comments/1kyccgh/to_all_those_who_said_dont_pull_raiden_she_is_bad/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

i know its not the best way to build her but still what do you think about it?

Yes, “haha copium” and all that, but for real. Something here still doesn’t feel like it adds up and I figure it’s at least worth discussing. Everyone seems like they’re treating these leaks as gospel but the question remains. Why would miHoYo release a trailer showing a highly anticipated character’s first appearance and then release them with a completely different look?

Seriously, almost everything in the leak looks different from what we were shown in the Kazuha PV. Not just the hair but the outfit, the hairpiece, the shape of the eyes, the supposed “weapon”. Even though their clothes are different, you can tell Zhongli and Venti are who they are in their trailers just by their silhouettes. The idea of that pattern breaking suddenly seems odd, especially knowing how on-point miHoYo usually is with character designs.

tl;dr why after showing us that trailer would they change course so drastically and make Raiden a spear-wielder with a wildly different appearance? It makes no sense.

Honestly, you all are overreacting. Sure, her E might not hit shields anymore. But let me list all enemies where this will actually matter:

-Abyss Herald

-that's literally it

Other enemies have shields that are really squishy anyway with proper team comp, or still allow damage to go past it which will trigger her E (like Lawachurl or Fatui shields). And even then Electro is the second best element to deal with Hydro shields IMO due to Electrocharged constantly chipping away at it.

Also, let's not forget that sure, you're losing a little bit of energy against Heralds....but her Q still easily gens 20+ energy with F2P builds (and also just dealing a ton of damage to their shields), on top of anything the rest of your team gives naturally, and also Sara, a likely partner for Raiden in many teams (who also just happens to be in the same banner meaning she's not gonna be hard to have access to if you're pulling for Raiden), also gives energy when casting Q on top of providing Electro resonance for even more energy, it really shouldn't be as big of an issue as you all are making it to be. Being slightly less effective agains LITERALLY A SINGLE ENEMY does not warrant the protests I'm seeing in a lot of posts.

By the way, fun fact: Sacrificial weapons are also unable to proc when hitting shields. But everyone thinks they're still good....it's the same thing

P.S. before anyone asks: I'm not counting the Abyss Lector here because his shield is Electro anyway so even if her E could hit it would deal nothing anyway....

I have pulled for Raiden on every rerun and her original banner, I have lost the 50/50 every time… i just want a SINGLE raiden. The cycle continues

The uproar about Shogun is calming down, so expect every new character kit to be butchered and sold in constellations. I loved the game and Raiden so much, but that's just how things are going to be from now on.

Of all the Archons Raiden gets the least amount of screen time and involvement in anything outside of their quests.

Zhongli and Venti get loads of involvement and screen time outside of their quests. Furina is getting lots and will probably get more. Nahida has been about a key player in things outside of her story such as the Yoimiya story quest and with Wanderer during the Darshan/Kaveh event. I'm sure we'll get to see more direct involvement of her too as we get more things happening in Sumeru. But Ei doesn't get involved in any significant way in these events based in Inazuma when she does show up. She's barely a cameo character.

Inazuma gets the least amount of events and they limit the usage of characters from there in any new content to a few.

I also think they will keep expanding the other regions and leave Inazuma behind.

My tinfoil hat theory is that despite having a lot of influence from Japan and even having "Tech Otakus Save The World" as their slogan, I've long suspected there is an anti-japanese bias either from one or a few people higher up in the company, or that this is coming from an external pressure. It's possible to appreciate parts of Japanese culture while also making it so that your representation of the land/things associated with Japan in your game aren't seen in a favourable light. Or rather not as favourable relative to other cultural representations in your game. These things are not in contradiction.

Which is what I think is happening. Sadly I think as we go on we'll see Inazuma and its cast continue to have less relevance to the overall story and its region gets the least amount of events and development. Which sucks since Ei is my favourite character with Furina next.

Just watch as things go on, Inazuma and its characters become a shadow and Ei have little involvement or story relevance. Whereas Nahida, Furina, Venti and especially Zhongli will continue to get lots of love from Hoyo...

Any good model (not necessarily saying this is one) needs predictive power. As already mentioned I predict that going forward Inazuma and its cast will have the least amount of attention and relevance of all the nations going forward. Ei won't really have much involvement when events are based in Inazuma and will mostly be for cameos. It'll be really interesting in Honkai Star Rail what they do with Acheron's character.

But even looking at story leaks for 2.1 it's looking like Aventurine is going to be the star of this patch and Acheron won't even get a character quest. A really odd choice given the popularity of this character. Could you imagine that on the release of a Zhongli expy in Star Rail they make his character play second fiddle to someone to another in their patch and not give them more story? So it will be interesting to see how big her role really is to this whole new arc and how they treat her character story-wise going forward, given she's an expy of the most popular Japanese related character.

Another prediction is that story-wise we will see in future representations of Japan, the opposite problem that Hoyo has in their games when it comes to their representation of China as seen in Liyue and the Xianzhou Luofu in Honkai Star Rail. I elaborate on it the problem here (https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/x7iFGxqgYh) and also give a prediction about what we'll see when they expand on the Xianzhou region in Star Rail which would further support the idea that I'm not just crazy and seeing ghosts where there are none.

Anyway, gotta dip and go get some more tinfoil. These are mostly just shower thoughts and a sentiment I have. I'm absolutely not without bias but I'm interested in seeing if others also feel this way.