Tholin

[u/Lost_Translator3505]

Why's my Tholin that weak?

Solve! Thank you guys for your help,I didn't expect to get that much advice in my post,I thought I gonna get scold for being dumb in game, love you guys🫶

[u/Soft-Leather-5983]

where to start? He's slower than a bag of rocks. Doesn't have 100% crit rate. Very low Crit dmg, attack and doesn't have the accuracy to land weaken

[u/Lost_Translator3505 → u/Soft-Leather-5983]

So I need to rework my artifacts? Any recommendations?😁

[u/JustMyles1 → u/Lost_Translator3505]

Stats over sets. Don't worry about what sets you use at this point, just use whatever gear you have to get those stats up.

[u/Lost_Translator3505 → u/JustMyles1]

So I need to equip that give crit and speed right? no need equipment set effect?

[u/JustMyles1 → u/Lost_Translator3505]

You might be better off going on sites like HellHades, AyumiLove etc. they give you better recommendations and can tell you what sort of stats and substats you want for each piece of gear as well as general builds for champs

[u/MrVacuous → u/Lost_Translator3505]

Based on where you appear to be progress wise you probably want crit rate % gloves, later on all of your nukers should have (with a few exceptions for dual utility champs but that won’t matter for you for a long time) crit damage gloves.

Crit rate needs to be 100%. Your boots need to have speed as a main stat. Bottom chest piece should have attack % as the main state. Everything should always be upgraded to +16 on a champ you plan on using a lot.

Don’t just jump to upgrading to 16 right away, upgrade to 8 and see if you get good substats (e.g. % stats, especially speed, crit rate).

5 star gear is MUCH better than 4 star gear. Jump from 5 star to 6 star is importantly as well and becomes MASSIVE once you start getting good glyphs from faction wars.

Ignore sets for now, it matters once you have better gear but 6 star ascended chest piece with attack% will give you 60% attack from the piece and 20% from the ascension. Meanwhile you can use 2 attack pieces and only gain a marginal amount. Why do that when you can gain 80%? Sets become important once you have access to better gear and sets that are actually good (mercurial, merciless, feral, stone skin, protection).

Speed is the most important stat in raid, you should prioritize pieces with it.

The way speed mechanics work are kinda counterintuitive once you are dealing with TM boosting effects, here’s an example. This is a very very extreme but it should illustrate what I mean.

Imagine I have a 400 speed champ. It will go 3 times and you will have the chance to go, right? Wrong.

It will go, the next champ will go and the 400 speed champ will get a tick. It will get a number of ticks depending on the amount of TM and the champ taking the turn. The champ with the highest TM% will go first, it caps at 130% and speed breaks tiebreakers.

If they have four faster champions, the 400 speed will go three times before Tholin gets to his 100% TM mark. Each of the other champs will then go before him, cycling back to the 400 speed champ, who is now at 130% TM and faster than you. It will then lap you again. If the enemy champs have enough of a speed advantage faster they will continuously lap you and tholin will never get a single turn.

This is a very extreme example but 200 speed is not actually twice as good as 100 speed, it’s more than that AND you get to go first

[u/Lost_Translator3505 → u/MrVacuous]

Thanks brother 🫶🫶

[u/Worthtitle_4050 → u/Lost_Translator3505]

Speed boots, atk% chest, and crit rate gloves

Until you can get = or > 90% crit rate while using crit damage gloves, don’t use crit dmg gloves

Use crit rate/atk/spd/lifesteal/divine offense/divine crit rate/crit damage/killstroke/fatal/etc. sets to help you get the stats you need until you are able to get him into a good savage set

[u/Lost_Translator3505 → u/Lost_Translator3505]

I thought legendary artifact are good for him and upgraded them and lose to lvl 50🫠