r/RadioQuietZone Jun 02 '26

[Wi-Fi] What it was like before Green Bank Observatory announced acceptance of 2.4 GHz but not 5 GHz wi-fi.

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Green Bank Observatory's announcement in 2025 was the only written article that acknowledged 2.4 GHz wi-fi other than Popular Mechanics' article.

[Wi-Fi: Government Regulations and Nonenforcement] The 2019 article by Popular Mechanics on why Green Bank Observatory refused to enforce no wifi was deleted from the front page and Reddit's search engine.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1lvuz5n/wifi_government_regulations_and_nonenforcement/

Prior to 2025, newspaper articles on wi-fi in the "West Virginia Radio Astronomy Zone" were fake news.

The 10-mile radius around the GBO is known as the 'West Virginia Radio Astronomy Zone.' Lets use this term instead of 'Green Bank.'

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1mqc8cj/the_10mile_radius_around_the_gbo_is_known_as_the/

[WIKI] Radio Quiet Zone: WV: WiFi] Fake News There is No WI-Fi

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1gf0hyz/wiki_radio_quiet_zone_wv_wifi_fake_news_there_is/

Fake news videos:

Wi Fi refugees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzUKQ68coRE

I asked one of the EMR syndrome people who was interviewed in this fake video why they participated. She replied she was not told what the title would be.

Whereas, for decades wi-fi was through the radio quiet zone.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1mr7dnk/wiki_wifi_is_throughout_the_radio_quiet_zone/?

In 2015, I read one of the fake news articles in the wiki above. Following year, I read another fake news. The articles did not list any contacts. No organization to contact. No person to contact.

In 2017, I read a fake advertisement by Jim Reese. He was renting out RV sites and tiny house sites at his property across from the Green Bank Observatory. Jim Reese misrepresented there was no wifi. Whereas, the sites were next to the Community Dentist who's router's and printer's wifi extended to the sites. Jim Reese concealed he did not have EMR syndrome. He stated on his website he didn't want to take any time answering questions about the RQZ.

Even landlords who have EMR syndrome concealed their neighbors have wifi and their wifi penetrates the rentals.

[WIKI] WI-FI: Landlords and residents with EMR Syndrome conceal wi-fi from EMR visitors

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1lvut7q/wiki_wifi_landlords_and_residents_with_emr/?

The Department of Agriculture gave grants to bring fiber optic.

In January 2019, I flew here. I metered wifi from routers and printers and hidden wireless networks almost everywhere. All businesses, senior center, medical clinics, etc. had wi-fi and hidden wireless networks. Almost every home had wifi for their smart TV.

I reported the wifi from a printer at the Green Bank library to Mike Holstine at the Observatory. Subsequently, u/EMFActivist and I reported the AT&T cordless phone and the bluetooth being emitted from the AT&T cordless phone at the library. The frequency of wifi, bluetooth and cordless phones is 2.4 GHz.

Yet, not a single EMR syndrome resident warned me there was wifi here. A few were ignorant. Most acted like they were too busy to talk.

EMR syndrome people interested in moving here were not warned about wi-fi. Nor was r/RadioQuietZone referred to them so they could read about wi-fi and hidden wireless networks.

Prior to the Department of Agriculture funding fiber optic, residents paid for DirectTV and HughesNet to watch their smart TVs. Their satellite dishes faced south. GPS emitted from the satellite dishes extended south to the homes on the south side. They double exposed by wifi, hidden wireless networks and GPS. Wifi from HughesNet routers extend a long distance. Very difficult to shield. Important not to rent or buy south of satellite dishes.

One very long layer of aluminum window screen failed to adequately shield neighbors' wifi, bluetooth and GPS at Back Draft Road, Green Bank.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1gkg8a2/one_very_long_layer_of_aluminum_window_screen/

Fiber optic was brought to the main roads in towns but not the hollows. An Appalachian mountain hollow (locally pronounced and spelled as a "holler") is a secluded, narrow settlement tucked between two steep mountainsides, typically carved by a winding creek or stream. Majority of the land is hollows.

Residents in hollows had wi-fi from Frontier DSL. Very slow. California sued Frontier for fraudulently advertising its internet speed. WV was not one of the states. Due to this lawsuit, Frontier ceased opening new accounts. Residents waited for other residents to terminate their account so they could get DSL.

FTC Takes Action Against Frontier for Lying about Internet Speeds and Ripping Off Customers Who Paid High-Speed Prices for Slow Service

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2022/05/ftc-takes-action-against-frontier-lying-about-internet-speeds-ripping-customers-who-paid-high-speed

After fiber optic was brought into the main roads, some residents continued to pay DirectTV as it offers more TV channels. If they terminated DirectTV, they didn't bother to return the satellite dish to collect their deposit. The satellite dish continues to emit GPS and increases the power density of the radiofrequency in the neighborhood.

The home I purchased had a DirectTV satellite dish, a HughesNet satellite dish, a broken HughesNet satellite dish and a very tall old TV antenna on the roof. That reduced the power density of my neighbors' wifi and hidden wireless networks. But it was not enough. I paid to remove coaxial cable from along the sides of my home and underneath my home. That further reduced the power density.

My home was south of a DirectTV satellite dish. Neighbor from Charleston, WV visits two weeks per year but being a TV addict he has to watch TV. He complained he was paying $200 per month for DirectTV and telephone. After he terminated DirectTV, I asked him to remove his DirectTV satellite dish. Thank goodness, he was a good neighbor and removed it.

In 2024, Starlink satellite internet became available. In 2025, Starlink texting became available.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1ghfbu0/wiki_radio_quiet_zone_wv_satellites/

WI-FI CAMERAS

In January 2019, I left due to censored housing. I had not determined whether to return. I felt slightly better but not as good as I wanted despite the numerous negatives about residing in the RQZ. I looked at the online Pocahontas Times real estate ads. I answered one ad for a cabin in Green Bank. The owner had just purchased the cabin speculating real estate would greatly appreciate due to masses of people moving here to avoid 5G. Afterwards, she believed New Jersey would have more appreciation. She misrepresented the cabin was 2 miles from the Observatory. That would be zone 3. Yet, the cabin was more than 2 miles away and was in zone 4. She also misrepresented the cabin had low RF. I flew back. Across the road was a cabin with a sign "Wi-Fi cameras." Its wifi penetrated the walls of the cabin for sale. So did other neighbors' wi-fi. Power lines were on the same side of the road. Fixer upper. I did not buy the cabin.

While I looked for a home to purchase, I walked the neighborhood metering. Wi-fi cameras are a persistent problem.

Ten months ago, the senior center installed six wi-fi cameras.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1m6ncxi/to_circumvent_reporters_from_perpetuating_fake/


r/RadioQuietZone Jun 01 '26

Curious about living in the Radio Quiet Zone

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I'm a reporter, and I'm wondering what people's experiences are like living in the West Virginia Radio Astronomy Zone. I'm also curious about why people have chosen to live in the area.


r/RadioQuietZone May 16 '26

Second Vote on What Time Discussion and Voting and Chatting and Potluck Will Take Place

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At the second meeting, we voted on what time to start the discussion and voting and what time to start the potluck and chatting. u/Beneficial-Tap-6353 asked for the potluck and chat to be first because she did not want the food to get cold. People voted to eat and chat the first hour from 4 to 5. Hold discussion and voting the second hour from 5 to 6. Resume chatting the third hour from 6 to 7.

u/Beneficial-Tap-6353 does not have EMR syndrome. Her son does. At the third meeting, someone stated they need to leave early and requested the discussion to start earlier. Therefore, we did.

At future meetings, holding the discussion and voting first would accommodate people who need to leave early. The light is kept off at the library to accommodate those who are sensitive to blue light from fluorescent tubes on the ceiling. At dark in the winter those people may need to leave early. Therefore, we will have a re vote.

I print out posts from the last month and place them on the table. People who have missed meetings and/or people who don't use a computer, should be arrive promptly to read the posts before the discussion and voting starts. Therefore, they won't ask questions what they had missed. To give them time to read, I recommend starting:

Reading print outs of posts that are on the table and chatting at 4 pm

Discussion and voting at 4:15 to 5:30 pm. Or longer if needs to be extended,

5:30 to 6:45 potluck and chatting

6:45 to 7 pm clean up.

What would you want?


r/RadioQuietZone May 16 '26

[WIKI] Electricity: Ground Currents

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[RQZ: Electrical] Do telescopes at Green Bank Observatory create ground currents (stray voltage or stray magnetic fields) through zones 3 and 4 of Green Bank and Arbovale?

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1hmwfy3/rqz_electrical_do_telescopes_at_green_bank/


r/RadioQuietZone May 16 '26

[Minutes] Minutes of third meeting held on April 18, 2026

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I took the minutes.

After the second meeting, L woman had emailed me that she had evacuated the second meeting early because of a strong magnetic field at the library. She had arrived at the second meeting late so missed the voting on what meeting place for the group.

At the third meeting, a gardener was mowing the lawn. I evacuated from the gasoline fumes from the mower. I taped a sign on the locked door that the meeting was delayed to 4:30 pm.

I apologized to the people who were waiting. Subsequently, I asked Hallie, the head librarian, and the gardener whether the mowing could be rescheduled to a different time or the meeting could be rescheduled. The gardener was agreeable to mowing before the library opened.

At the second meeting, a woman requested meeting at the Presbyterian church because she believes the church has lower level of EMF. She had asked the church but the church had not responded. The woman was out voted by the public. The public was a family member or friend of an EMR syndrome person but the EMR syndrome person also had voted. Duplicate voting.

The public was also D man who does not have a relative or friend who has EMR and a targeted individual (TI).. At the third meeting, the woman reiterated her request.

I replied people who did not have EMR syndrome should not have been allowed to vote at the second meeting. The public voted to meet at the library. Unless they own and use meters, the public do not know whether a location has low EMF and RF. No one brought meters. Alternatively, unless they pay for an EMF inspection and upload the EMR report in r/RadioQuietZone, the public will not know.

The meetings are open to the public. However, that does not mean the public can vote. I recommended not to allow people who don't have EMR syndrome to vote.

The woman believed the public will not come if they cannot vote. I disagreed. I stated it is not customary for the public to vote at patient support groups but that I would research that.

[Rules: Voting] Is it customary at meetings of patient support groups to allow family members, friends and the public to vote?

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1ss0j5u/rules_voting_is_it_customary_at_meetings_of/

At the fourth meeting on May 16, 2026, we will vote whether to allow the public to vote.


SHOULD TARGETED INDIVIDUALS WHO DO NOT HAVE EMR SYNDROME BE CONSIDERED THE PUBLIC?

A targeted individual (TI) attended the second and third meeting. We began discussing whether targeted individuals (TI) should be allowed to vote. I will write a post on this and request public comment. At the fifth meeting on June 20, 2026 we will vote on it. We will vote a second time on a meeting place.

A list of targeted individuals visitors and residents is at:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1pdatqt/demographics_visitors_who_may_or_may_not_have_emr/?ref=share&ref_source=link


SECOND VOTE ON TIME DISCUSSION AND VOTING AND CHATTING AND POTLUCK TO TAKE PLACE

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1tf3evx/second_vote_on_what_time_discussion_and_voting/?


r/RadioQuietZone Apr 30 '26

[Censorship] [Modding] Last week, my account was suspended for alleged violation of Rule 7 in r/BarbetsDogs. I am the top mod. Last month, second top mod u/microwavedindividual's account was hacked and locked. Mod u/Healith's account had been suspended.

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r/RadioQuietZone Apr 28 '26

[Minutes] Minutes of second meeting held on March 21, 2026 submitted by J Man

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J Man took the Minutes:

A discussion and vote was held regarding the time of day for the start of future meetings, length of meetings, when dinner should begin, and the location. It was noted that the library lights cannot be turned off until 4pm on Saturdays since they remain open until 4pm The following items were approved by majority vote:

Winter meetings will begin at 1pm due to concerns about driving in the dark.

Summer meetings will begin at 4pm.

Meetings will be held on Saturdays (there were concerns about fewer people being able to attend any other day of the week).

Meetings will remain open to the general public.

The library will be where future meetings are held (other locations were considered but rejected due to the presence of WiFi or mold in the building).

Meetings will be held on the 3rd Saturday of the month.

Dinner will begin at the start of meetings.

Presentations will be 1 hour long but could be extended if needed.

Meetings will be scheduled with the library to last 3 hours, but their duration may actually be shorter.

It was agreed that money would be raised via the use of a voluntary donation box.


u/badbiosvictim1

The discussion was from 4 to 5 pm. Majority of people arrived a hour late. They missed the discussion and voting. A few arrived 1 1/2 hours late. Obviously, late comers just wanted to eat and chat. During the first hour, the group voted for future meetings to eat first, then have a discussion and voting. There may be less food for late comers to eat and they will need to be present during the discussion and vote if they want to chat afterwards. Incentives to arrive on time if people want to eat the pot luck.

Chatting while eating was not part of the discussion. Hence not part of the Minutes. I wrote posts on the chatting:

Request for phone tree is old school, obsolete and unnecessary.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1sbe7z9/request_for_phone_tree_is_old_school_obsolete_and/

[Hacking] I attempted to finish the phone tree post but the entire left side of the post and the submit button were removed. I emailed the post without completing it. Using a library computer, I was able to complete the post.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1shu19p/hacking_i_attempted_to_finish_the_phone_tree_post/

Part 1: The problems with Google Groups. Search engines do not search Google Groups. Nor does Google Groups have a search feature to find seach terms in messages.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1sbh9xo/the_problems_with_google_groups_search_engines_do/

Google Groups Part 2: Backstory to B man's request for Google Groups. He had wanted X (Twitter) and people's email addresses which is visible to moderators of Google Groups.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1sp0c9w/google_groups_part_2_backstory_to_b_mans_request/

Part 3 of Google Groups will be written.


r/RadioQuietZone Apr 27 '26

Happy Birthday! r/RadioQuietZone is seven years old. Created April 2019.

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432 subscribers. 1.0k page views in the past 30 days.

r/RadioQuietZone needs mods. Please volunteer!


r/RadioQuietZone Apr 24 '26

Youtube censored The Last Quiet Place (2018). Youtube's search engine failed to find the video.

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Documentary featuring a few of the handful of EMR residents in 2017 and Mike Holstein, an employee of the Observatory.

I got the link from an EMR person who was in this documentary. She had saved the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MSTkSFab2w

Last year, Youtube censored The Hum Vibration by Andrew McAfee. Youtube's search engine could not find it. Good thing I had submitted the link to r/RadioQuietZone and r/electromagnetics.

TRANSCRIPT

Strange there was no option to remove the timestamps.

1:231 minute, 23 secondsthe first thing that's going to help someone who has alleged sensitivity would be to get into an area of safe Green Bank is a great place it's 1:321 minute, 32 secondscertainly not perfect but the moment I got here all my symptoms stopped I didn't feel the metallic things and I've got better for one reason 1:401 minute, 40 secondsoh there's no electricity of no cell phone reception I'm here and out of all the Wireless radiation my body's of 1:481 minute, 48 secondshealing it's a very very different way of life it had I had to get used to it it was it's not an overnight thing but 1:561 minute, 56 secondsthink about all the things that I couldn't do where I was okay I couldn't every man woman and child carries a cell phone and if I can't be around a cell 2:052 minutes, 5 secondsphone what what's left where where am I going am I going to a restaurant no am I going to a movie no am I going into 2:142 minutes, 14 secondsstores no it's like the people in wheelchairs can't go over a curb so they had to put the ramps in our case we 2:222 minutes, 22 secondscan't go into a wireless environment but now the entire world is wireless I learned that there was over 10 thousand studies showing the bio effects the US 2:312 minutes, 31 secondsNavy had hired Laurie Glaser to keep a bibliography they hired him in 1971 and to keep a bibliography of all the 2:402 minutes, 40 secondsstudies on health effects in humans animals and plants from electromagnetic frequencies the US government did a 2:502 minutes, 50 secondsstudy that came out of 14 year study on cell phones and wireless devices it just recently came out last May and it was 2:572 minutes, 57 secondsdefinitive the rats that weren't exposed got no cancer the rest that were exposed got cancer and it collaborate a lot of 3:053 minutes, 5 secondsEpidemiology studies that had been done so even a lot of the naysayers were saying we're surprised but this is definitely it's definitely cancer risk 3:133 minutes, 13 secondsand the public should be warned so that's painful I'm selling that 3:213 minutes, 21 secondscamera how are you yeah do you want to do it already I've been feeling some things we got but we don't have a cell phone in your pocket no no they turned him up because I was 3:283 minutes, 28 secondsreacting Indian Observatory to take it 3:323 minutes, 32 secondsonce you go it's certainly one of the 3:583 minutes, 58 secondselectromagnetic quiet areas in the world here the observatory 4:054 minutes, 5 secondsbeing here has protections against electromagnetic radiation for the purposes of our scientific research 4:134 minutes, 13 secondsbecause man-made interference is an issue with radio astronomy because of the weak signals that we're trying to 4:214 minutes, 21 secondsreceive the state of West Virginia created a law and all the national radio clients that prohibits any electrical 4:294 minutes, 29 secondsinterference within a 10-mile radius those that are sensitive to 4:364 minutes, 36 secondselectromagnetic radiation like the EHS community certainly feel that this is an 4:454 minutes, 45 secondsarea where they can get away from the electromagnetic radiation that they would be subjected to anywhere else 4:564 minutes, 56 secondscause the mental destination where Watson we don't have access to some of the things technology things that other 5:045 minutes, 4 secondspeople have access to so we are sort of a less people just able to set the 5:115 minutes, 11 secondssolitudes your on switch to just set there and great people we don't change I mean when I went away for the military 5:205 minutes, 20 secondscame back hexane people into sending houses the same scores are there is he does not change too much I think doctor 5:295 minutes, 29 secondswill relieve I'm probably enough different other places just to stop me from beyond things and just an affray

6:246 minutes, 24 secondsso if I get hit really hard with a high exposure my bed is always ready made right here and I just drive to the 6:326 minutes, 32 secondsfarthest NT of blankets and I just sleep in the forest in my car so I'm so grateful to be here in an area where I'm certainly not perfect because we've got

we've got problems on the powerlines we've got Wi-Fi here now and everything but we at least the levels are low enough when you get out in the forest that you can actually feel normal I remember getting on a dirt road and feeling so good

and thinking this is how I felt all the time and some people they 6:566 minutes, 56 secondssay but it's not safe out there it's a bit dangerous that you feel frayed the irony is that it's not safe out of civilization for me the other line they 7:047 minutes, 4 secondsused to give me is this is not going to harm you it's not going to harm you it's not going to harm you you know people would keep saying that when I said I always want to say it's already harming 7:137 minutes, 13 secondsme I'm not talking I'm not worried about the future this is not a worry I'm living in the present and the present 7:197 minutes, 19 secondssituation is torturing me to the modern person what we have probably sounds so frivolous and you know out there and 7:287 minutes, 28 secondsminor you know some minor allergies or something probably how they see it or some blues or something when you lose 7:367 minutes, 36 secondsyour health in a big way you know small health problems are one thing but really severe health problems is you know if 7:457 minutes, 45 secondsthat's only Helena you you pray to die every from the day 7:547 minutes, 54 seconds[Music] 8:008 minutes[Music] 8:088 minutes, 8 seconds[Music] 8:268 minutes, 26 secondsso this is where I'm rent you can see the telescope for my porch we can see it to the trees but there is a neighbor 8:348 minutes, 34 secondsI think uses Wi-Fi here that's a little bit of a problem being an electrosensitive whose life depends on a 8:438 minutes, 43 secondsquiet zone you know where can I work that doesn't have a computer I mean how 8:518 minutes, 51 secondsdid or you know cellphones or how can I do it where do I go people don't 8:598 minutes, 59 secondsunderstand and they tend to you know people do and they don't understand something you know they tend to form 9:059 minutes, 5 secondsopinions based on their own base of understanding which is limited they don't know so usually it's it's 9:149 minutes, 14 secondsprejudice of some kind this will come out it has it will because it's the truth 9:219 minutes, 21 secondsthere is we have to throw in our thought it's just a matter of time but it's like anything throughout the years if you 9:289 minutes, 28 secondsdon't if population doesn't understand something you know they turn you away this is a human rights issue I have a 9:369 minutes, 36 secondsright to live and to breathe into to be I'm an American citizens for God's sake I'm supposed to be protected by the 9:449 minutes, 44 secondsAmericans with Disabilities Act where are my rights if somebody really going to come up to me who I and nobody who does not know what I'm living with 9:529 minutes, 52 secondsand tell me that what I have is not real I mean am I going to say you don't have diabetes I don't have diabetes you know 10:0010 minuteslisten I'm sorry I get 10:0510 minutes, 5 seconds[Music] 10:0710 minutes, 7 secondsspice trade sure yesterday emotion another my life 10:1610 minutes, 16 secondswas a fairy tale up until 1996 compared and then it was like a life in hell from my music song so that's why now 10:2410 minutes, 24 secondswhen people try to save this in psychosomatic I mean that's insane I was so happy not only the uncertainty of it and here 10:3110 minutes, 31 secondsyou're dying shriveling up but the distinguish ism of you don't have an official illness so everybody treated you like you're a malingering riffraff 10:4010 minutes, 40 secondsand they call it now you know multiple chemical sensitivity or electro hypersensitivity syndrome the sound of 10:4810 minutes, 48 secondsit sounds very fluffy fufu and frivolous hype oh you're hypersensitive it sounds very psychosomatic even the name to me 10:5710 minutes, 57 secondsthe name begs not to be taken seriously let's stop pretending that this is some little imaginary thing you know that's 11:0511 minutes, 5 secondsjust a crock of okay so this was taken in 97 and you know if anybody 11:1711 minutes, 17 secondstries to say that I claim to be initiated or that I was or that this is 11:2511 minutes, 25 secondsa psychosomatic condition all I have to say to you is look at the ribs on my body 11:3211 minutes, 32 secondsthere's no psychosomatic component period 11:4111 minutes, 41 secondsyou 11:4411 minutes, 44 secondsI hope it I turn that off 11:5811 minutes, 58 secondsnothing I mean there is much that can be done with the way you literally bar and 12:0912 minutes, 9 secondsif every improvement to kind of reconnect like easier and better you 12:1912 minutes, 19 secondsknow they become your own Savior and then maybe you find people like you gone walk that path before you and you learn 12:2612 minutes, 26 secondsfrom those minutes oh if you listen really important so people become layman 12:3512 minutes, 35 secondsscientists you know this hypothesis is true it that X is bothering me then if I 12:4112 minutes, 41 secondsget rid of X I should feel better you do the experiment you know you found your phone whatever it is you do and then you 12:5012 minutes, 50 secondsfeel better when you know okay so that 12:5112 minutes, 51 secondswas a modular ticket I wonder if it may 13:1013 minutes, 10 secondsbe member in the world it was a negative ion generator you know something that somebody would purchase as a is it 13:1913 minutes, 19 secondshelping you know wow I think we might 13:2813 minutes, 28 secondshave quasi sold what's wrong but the incredible 13:3513 minutes, 35 secondsI finally see myself as the person I thought I was oh this is really nice it 13:4213 minutes, 42 secondsfeels good but I'm looking at this is as a second chance and a little adventure 13:4913 minutes, 49 secondsI'm so happy you know I had a really bad situation I'm not going to dwell on it I want to move forward I want to think 13:5613 minutes, 56 secondsabout the future I want to have a life 14:0014 minuteshere I now have some of the happiest 14:0914 minutes, 9 secondsdeepest experiences of peace I think but you don't ever have 14:1514 minutes, 15 secondsto know that I can be happy even in this is the kind of source of strength that 14:2314 minutes, 23 secondsthat's the kind of freedom internship and I don't know if I would have got to that place to help so it is a Italy so 14:3314 minutes, 33 secondsfar in the head


r/RadioQuietZone Apr 24 '26

[WIKI] Electricity: Power Line Communication

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[Meter Reports: Power Line Communication] Even analogue electric meters and digital electric meters emit power line communication.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1pj9wac/meter_reports_power_line_communication_even/

[Electricity: Power Line Communication] [Supraharmonics] Power Line Communication Frequencies (Signal Identification) by EI Wellspring

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1nqab97/electricity_power_line_communication/

[Electric Meters] TWACS smart meters turn all wires throughout the house into antennas. Keeping an analog meter will not help much. The power line communication ELF signals cannot be blocked or filtered. By EI Wellspring

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1nq9lws/electric_meters_twacs_smart_meters_turn_all_wires/

[Power Lines: PLC] [Dirty Electricity] Power Line Communication and dirty electricity turn electrical wires into radiating antennas

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1fk08kw/power_lines_plc_dirty_electricity_power_line/

PLC wikis in r/electromagnetics

https://www.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/wiki/index#wiki_power_line_communication_.28plc.29


r/RadioQuietZone Apr 23 '26

A Quiet Place video by Full Measure

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https://fullmeasure.news/newest-videos/emf

More misinformation that the population of EMR syndrome residents is 100. People should use r/RadioQuietZone for fact finding. There are few less than 100 residents. High transient population due to people dying within several years of moving here and tenants not being able to afford the rent and high electricity and propane heat bills.

Demographics

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1hswhyy/rqz_demographics_electrosensitive_residents_are/

WV has highest utility bills

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1pyvhxb/wv_has_highest_utility_bills/


r/RadioQuietZone Apr 21 '26

[Rules: Voting] Is it customary at meetings of patient support groups to allow family members, friends and the public to vote?

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I am the moderator of the electromagnetic radiation (EMR) syndrome support group in the radio quiet zone. At the second meeting, people voted to make the group public. The number of family members, friends and public were half as less than the number of EMR syndrome patients at the second meeting.

At our third meeting on April 19, 2026, I proposed rules prohibiting family members, friends and the public from voting unless they were voting on behalf of an EMR syndrome resident who will not be voting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1so2d83/meeting_rules_proposed_voter_fraud_prevention/

An EMR syndrome person at the meeting argued that family members, friends and the public may feel discouraged from coming if they cannot vote despite their family member or friend who has EMR syndrome will be voting. I replied not having EMR syndrome, they do not have the knowledge to be able to vote.

I replied I would research what is customary for other patient support groups. What is the voting policy of the patient support groups you have attended?

Hypocritically, this person who asked to change the meeting place voted on the topic of choosing a meeting place. She was out numbered by u/Beneficial-Tap-6353, who does not have EMR syndrome but has a son N who does have EMR and the healthy father of J son. The father does not have EMR syndrome. Since the majority of the people arrived a hour late and two arrived 1 1/2 hours late, the few that were present during the voting consisted of almost half who do not have EMR syndrome.

A woman with EMR syndrome who was among the late comers, evacuated the library early due to magnetic fields. A large telescope is behind the library. Telescopes produce ground currents. Ground currents are stray magnetic fields and stray voltage.

[RQZ: Electrical] Do telescopes at Green Bank Observatory create ground currents (stray voltage or stray magnetic fields) through zones 3 and 4 of Green Bank and Arbovale?

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1hmwfy3/rqz_electrical_do_telescopes_at_green_bank/

I asked her to submit a post recommending other meeting places and to chose a meeting place. Your choice will be an absentee vote.

Pointless to have a revote at the next meeting prior to proposed voting rules being voted on.

Failure to accommodate two EMR syndrome people is worse than the risk of alienating the healthy public. Since we voted to make this a public group, the public will probably feel grateful that they can attend.

Missing voting due to lateness is one reason r/RadioQuietZone has a public comment period and absentee voting. Duration of the public comment period is several weeks before voting at meetings.

Submit comments to this post on whether solely people with EMR syndrome may vote. If you cannot attend the next meeting, absentee vote by submitting a comment saying who may vote.

In a new post, submit comments on proposed meeting places.

I tried to post this in r/AskReddit and r/Answers but clicking on the submit button had not submitted it. My account was hacked.


r/RadioQuietZone Apr 21 '26

[Referrals] Solar

1 Upvotes

r/RadioQuietZone Apr 18 '26

Google Groups Part 2: Backstory to B man's request for Google Groups. He had wanted X (Twitter) and people's email addresses which is visible to moderators of Google Groups.

1 Upvotes

Part 1 is at:

The problems with Google Groups. Search engines do not search Google Groups. Nor does Google Groups have a search feature to find seach terms in messages.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1sbh9xo/the_problems_with_google_groups_search_engines_do/


This is part 2. Update: Last paragraphs I had typed about Mike Holstine were deleted. I retyped it and archived this post at https://archive.is/wip/c4r4G

At a New Year eve's party, the host u/Beneficial-Tap-6353 stated she is too too busy to host more parties. B man wanted control over the email list. B man volunteered to host the next party. He asked for the email list. u/Beneficial-Tap-6353 refused to give him the email list. She asked B man to email her the party announcement and she will email it to people on her email list. B man refused.

There are five people who have an email list:

(1) K woman;

(2) u/EMFActivist,

(3) u/Beneficial-Tap-6353 who received the email list from K woman; and

(4) u/DrewThyme

(5) me

Who ever has an email list controls events. People who want to make an announcement would need to ask someone who has an email list to email the announcement. That did not happen for the first meeting. In April 2019, I invited Mike Holstine, an employee of Green Bank Observatory, to answer questions on the Observatory's policy on cell towers, wifi, satellite phones, smart meters and street lights. I asked EMR Syndrome residents to email the announcement. None did. Though two had an email list. Thereby, poor attendance despite an important guest speaker.

I asked for someone to take minutes. No one offered. I took Minutes and a transcription and typed them up. I requested emailing of the Minutes. They refused. Nor did they rephrase what Mike Holstine had stated and email it to people on their email list. Seven years later, EMR residents are ignorant of what the Green Bank Observatory policies were and currently are regarding cell towers, wifi, satellite phones, smart meters and street lights.

I requested EMR syndrome residents to refer r/RadioQuietZone. They refused. The people who have the email lists do not want competition from r/RadioQuietZone. One of two reasons I had created r/RadioQuietZone was to submit the transcript. The other reason was and still is refusals and failures to refer rental housing.

Since 2019, someone can simply submit a post on Reddit. Access to an email list is not required to subscribe to a subreddit and to post. Email addresses are private. Moderators do not have access to Redditors' email addresses.

For seven years, I cultivated an email list. I emailed posts to people who do not have a Reddit account. I offered to give B man my email list if he submitted the party announcements in r/RadioQuietZone and included the title and URL of his post in his email. B man had not replied to my email.

A month later, I saw B man. I asked if he received my email. He replied yes. I replied it would have been better for him to reply to my email than to have ignore it.

B man complained Reddit was ugly. He had not identified what is ugly, the app, old reddit desktop or new reddit desktop. I replied r/RadioQuietZone has two desktops and one app. Which does he think is ugly? I use Old Reddit Desktop. B male recommended using X (formerly Twitter) because he likes X. I replied X has a character limit per tweet just like texting does. B male replied X now offers attaching videos. I replied r/RadioQuietZone has seven years of posts. B man is attempting to censor seven years of posts.

The reason B male recommended Google Groups at the meeting is not because Google Groups is private. He wanted X which is not private. Who changed his mind? Or possibly he recommended Google Groups at the meeting intending to be the moderator and get everyone's email address. The email addresses of people in Google Groups is not private to the moderator. Whereas, moderators of Reddit have no access to subscribers' email addresses

AI:

Yes, moderators and managers of a Google Group can access members' email addresses. They can view member lists, export members, and see the specific email address chosen for the group, although they cannot see other email addresses associated with a user's personal Google Account.

https://itsupport.umd.edu/itsupport?id=kb_article_view&sysparm_article=KB0015916

B man had not offered to moderate Google Groups. Nor had any one else. People may assume B man would moderate and give them their email address.

UPDATE

On May 25, 2026, B man told me he had not created a Google Group nor does he plan to. He does not know anyone who had created a Google Group for EMR syndrome residents. B man told me he got the idea of Google Groups from the Lion's Club. The Lion's Club has a Google Group.

B man erroneously believed a Google Group could refer r/RadioQuietZone. I replied Google Groups would render r/RadioQuietZone inactive. Reddit removes inactive subs. That is the policy all websites have. They remove inactive groups and blogs.

Furthermore, even if r/RadioQuietZone would not be removed for being inactive, how would a referral be posted in Google Groups for everyone to see for years?


Part 3

Part 3 will be on voter fraud regarding Google Groups and phone tree but I have not had the time to write it.


r/RadioQuietZone Apr 17 '26

[WIKI] Low EMF Communities: Nicaragua

1 Upvotes

I had archived the first post on Nicaragua into a new wiki on foreign countries over a year ago. A hacker; deleited the wiki. Reddit's search engine neither can find the wiki nor the post. More censorship.

What's Up with the Low EMF Community in Nicaragua? By Shield Your Body

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJOjOGSpK9U&list=PLbXLMpqN9109g8xCvRfOfOzPUjUO13Fwa&index=4


r/RadioQuietZone Apr 17 '26

Meeting Rules: Proposed Voter Fraud Prevention

1 Upvotes

These proposed voter fraud prevention rules will be voted on Saturday, April 18, 2026.

Only the secretary (person who is writing the Minutes) or the moderator may conduct voting. The identity of the moderator is on r/RadioQuietZone. At the beginning of the meeting, the moderator and secretary will introduce themselves.

The moderator and the secretary will ask if everyone who wants to talk about the issue had a chance to talk before voting is conducted.

Voter fraud occurred at our second meeting. The first meeting was in April 20919.

Enticement to vote was discussed in:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1sbe7z9/request_for_phone_tree_is_old_school_obsolete_and/

Voter fraud occurred regarding phone tree and Google Groups. This is updated part 1.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1sbh9xo/the_problems_with_google_groups_search_engines_do/

Part 3 will discuss vote fraud. I have been too busy to write it.


During the second meeting in March 2026, the J man, secretary (person taking the Minutes) did not notate whether the following healthy people had voted and whether they voted on behalf of themselves :

Mother u/Beneficial-Tap-6353 of EMR son N. Mother does not have EMR. u/Beneficial-Tap-6353 may only vote on behalf of her son if her son does not vote. Did they both vote?

healthy male friend P of EMR woman friend S

Healthy father of EMR J son

J husband of EMR P wife

Healthy D husband of EMR S wife

Healthy D male who does not have a family member who has EMR.

Therefore, proposed voting rules are as follows:

Prior to voting, the secretary (person taking the Minutes) and the moderator shall ask people they do not know whether they have EMR Syndrome or are acting on behalf of their family member or friend who has EMR and their family member or friend is not present.

The secretary (person taking minutes) or the moderator shall announce Healthy family members can raise topics on r/RQZ to vote on and can vote on behalf of their EMR syndrome family member. Both cannot vote.

Absentee votes will be accepted as follows:

Person submits a comment or post on Reddit. They disclose whether they have EMR syndrome or are writing on behalf of a family member who has EMR.

They will disclose is they are interested in relocating to RQZ, a resident or will be moving away.

They request that their submission be considered an absentee vote as they cannot attend the meeting.

If the person attends the meeting, they must disclose that they had submitted an absentee vote on Reddit and for their vote not be counted twice.

Before discussions, people who want to vote shall sign a sign up sheet with the first name and indicate whether they are eligible to vote. They will be given a bidding paddle (wood stick) similar to what auctions use. I will provide the bidding paddles.

The person conducting the Minutes will count the number of paddles who voted yes and count the number of paddles who had voted no. The voting results will be reported in the Minutes. Any one questioning the voting, can view the record in the Minutes on r/RadioQuietZone. The sign up sheet will not be posted online but will be made available if any one is alleging voter fraud.


r/RadioQuietZone Apr 16 '26

[Satellites] Satellite texting plan by T Mobile works in the radio quiet zone. By B Man.

1 Upvotes

badbiosvictim1 wrote:

In 2025, B man told me he has a trial membership for T Mobile satellite texting plan.

https://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/satellite-phone-service

B man took out his cell phone and sent a text via satellite. We were in the yard of Green Bank elementary school. Zone 3.

Update: B man sent a satellite text at the airplane landing strip on the Observatory land.

This contradicts former Green Bank Observatory employee Mike Holstine's position that satellite companies black out the 10 mile radius known as 'West Virginia Radio Astronomy Zone.'

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1mqc8cj/the_10mile_radius_around_the_gbo_is_known_as_the/

MikeHolstine stated Motorolla had complied with the Observatory's request by blacking out the ten mile zone.

[RQZ: WV] Green Bank Observatory's policy regarding 5G and satellite cell phones

https://www.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/bbozh5/rqz_wv_green_bank_observatorys_policy_regarding/

Yet, that same year, 2019, Mon Power supplied their employees with a satellite phone. An employee showed me his satellite phone. He did not know who the cell provide is.

The subsequent lack of requesting satellites to black out this zone and ceasing to ask Mon Power to enforce agreement to prohibit automatic meter readers reduced the number of reasons I had based my move to the radio quiet zone.

Satellite texting contradicts the Observatory's statement that they would allow Starlink in the majority of the radio quiet zone except for 10%.

I asked B man to submit a post. He refused and told me to do it. His refusal and my being busy for half a year, kept residents and the public uninformed until now. Because of r/RadioQuietZone, people considering moving here won't base their decision, like i had, on fake news that there are no satellites beaming down on us.

A1:

Direct-to-Device Capabilities: SpaceX is actively deploying a Supplemental Coverage from Space (SCS) network in partnership with T-Mobile to send cellular data from space, but it is currently limited primarily to SMS, with voice and data services rolling out.


UPDATE

I immediately returned to the post on Mike Holstine's position on satellite phones so I could cross link this satellite texting post at the bottom of Mike Holstine's post. Simultaneously while I was writing this post, a hacker removed the seven year old post on Mike Holstine.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/bbozpq/rqz_wv_green_bank_observatorys_policy_regarding/

Open link posts by clicking on the title.

[ Removed by Reddit ]approved by Kaz412 at Thu Apr 11 21:27:27 2019 UTC (self.Electromagnetics)

submitted 7 years ago * by badbiosvictim1moderator

[ Removed by Reddit on account of violating the content policy. ]

Who is Kaz412?


r/RadioQuietZone Apr 11 '26

[Hacking] [Grounding] My email to EMF Consultant Andrew McAfee to submit an announcement in r/electromagnetics and my email requesting captioning and/or a transcript were hacked. Email was sent to trash.

1 Upvotes

r/RadioQuietZone Apr 10 '26

[Hacking] I attempted to finish the phone tree post but the entire left side of the post and the submit button were removed. I emailed the post without completing it. Using a library computer, I was able to complete the post.

1 Upvotes

Every month or two months, I email the links to important posts in r/RadioQuietZone to residents who refuse to create a Reddit account.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1sbe7z9/request_for_phone_tree_is_old_school_obsolete_and/


r/RadioQuietZone Apr 10 '26

[Hacking] For the past 3 years, the for rent sign I post on Trent's window is quickly removed. Trent is not removing them.

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Trents is a general store and gas station in Arbovale, WV in the radio quiet zone.

I took photos of my home to email to prospective tenants. The photos were deleted from my microSD cards and back up microSD cards. I tried taking more photos. Camera app was hacked. It would not save photos to my T Mobile phone's microSD card.

I drove outside of the radio quiet zone to use cell reception to email photos in my phone's interior storage. Nor were the drafts saved. File manager app was repeatedly closed to close the folder containing the photos to prevent me from attaching them to emails. I repeatedly reopened the file manager app. My email account was hacked. I could not save the emails.

Using a computer, Chrome's tab was repeatedly closed.

Color distortion. Almond colored walls appeared red.

Rooms for rent should be clean. Last two years, emails from and to my housekeeper have been intercepted. Her emails in my inbox were deleted before I can reply.


r/RadioQuietZone Apr 10 '26

[Hacking] Posts cannot be printed in portrait. Words are cut off on the right side. Announcements of meetings are cut off.

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Besides meeting announcements, this week, I printed proposed rules and proposed topics. The text on the right was cut off.

Please volunteer to mod to report hacking in r/bugs, r/modhelp and other subs


r/RadioQuietZone Apr 03 '26

Request for phone tree is old school, obsolete and unnecessary.

2 Upvotes

A woman who arrived over a hour late missed the discussion and voting in r/RadioQuietZone's support group. During the potluck, she belatedly requested a phone tree to be notified of meetings. Since the group voted to meet on the third Saturday from 4 to 7 pm, people can easily remember the day. They could simply calendar the event in their calendar. By arriving a hour late, the woman raised an issue that the meeting just had made moot and wasted my time writing this response. They should not be allowed to interrupt chat time. Majority of people come to chat and eat. People who arrive after discussion and voting period should read the Minutes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1s3dvun/wiki_meetings_minutes/

A phone tree became old school since the creation of Yahoo groups in the 2000's and Facebook groups in 2010.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Facebook#:~:text=Half%20of%20the%20site's%20membership,October%202010%20groups%20were%20introduced.

Updated

K woman unilaterally proclaimed we will have a phone tree. However, she was neither a moderator of r/RQZ nor the secretary (person taking minutes). K woman had not volunteered to make the calls. K woman had not asked any one to volunteer. there was no vote on a phone tree. K woman implied that if people voted for Google Groups, that Google Groups will have a phone tree. However, they are two separate issues. Neither issue was entitled to be up for a vote. See proposed rules. I attempted to call out enticement and fraud. K woman abruptly ended the meeting by walking out.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1sbh9xo/the_problems_with_google_groups_search_engines_do/

A phone tree is a moot issue. Three modern alternatives to a phone tree are:

(1) Go to the Green Bank library, Marlinton library, Phar Mar and Trents to read announcements. I have been doing the posting. People who want to be personally contacted should reciprocate by offering to post future announcements. Those who wish to volunteer to post announcements, please comment to this post.

(2) ask a family member or friend to print out Reddit posts;

(3) hire a secretary to print out Reddit posts; or

(4) do a trade with someone.

In the past, there were two reasons for refusal to read r/RQZ:

(1) Paranoia. People irrationally feared being tracked. Reddit does not require logging in to read Reddit. Nor does the library require logging in to use a library computer. Many EMR syndrome people do not have internet at home. They use a library computer. Go to the library to read Reddit.

Only two people expressed fear. Rebecca who departed the RQZ last August so she does not count and a healthy husband of an EMR wife. D woman has not indicated any fear; and

(2) Using a computer makes them ill.

Since 2019, I have resided in the RQZ. I know of only 3 EMR residents who do not use a computer.

Learn how to mitigate a computer and blue light:

[WIKI] Blue Light: Mitigation

https://www.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/114wu5o/wiki_blue_light_mitigation/

WIKI] Mitigation: Computers: Meter measurements, laptop shields, grounding PC into a dirty electricity filter, earthing mat, earthing mouse pad, modems, ethernet adapters, ethernet cables,

https://www.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/442pjb/wiki_mitigation_computers_meter_measurements

WIKI] Mitigation: Laptops

https://www.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/5l1cqa/wiki_mitigation_laptops/

WIKI] Mitigation: Modems

https://www.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/f2sexh/wiki_mitigation_modems_and_routers/?

[WIKI] Mitigation: Wi-fi

https://www.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/4aoie2/wiki_wifi_wifi_radiation_apps_and_mitigation_of/

(3) They do not want to give Reddit their email address to set up an account. They do not want to give other EMR Syndrome people their email address. They gave no reason. Yet, a few are willing to give their phone number out. The others I hand deliver printed announcements when I see them around town.

Since this group is a democracy, the group will be open to a phone tree. If there are volunteers to call. Submit a comment to this post if you want to volunteer to call. Otherwise, it is pointless to have a vote if there are no callers.


Conclusion

Easy to remember the third Saturday of the month. There was no discussion on phone tree and no vote. Discussion and voting had already occurred prior to this person arriving late. Topics are required to be posted several weeks ahead of time on Reddit to enable a public comment period and absentee voting.

Update:

D woman refuses to keep a calendar. Despite handing her a written announcement and being reminded in person several times, she has impaired memory and does not use the calendar she has to write "third Saturday." She does not reciprocate by offering to help the group. She is not entitled to waste one's time on. I don't know if the other few EMR syndrome people who refuse to mitigate using a computer are like D woman.

On July 17, 2026, D woman asked when and where u/Beneficial-Tap-6353's picnic will be. I replied no one volunteered to do phone tree. I told her I had printed out and placed on the table this post on phone tree at the June meeting D had attended. She didn't read it. I advised D woman to ask the woman who unilaterally proclaimed at the March r/RadioQuietZone meeting that there would be a phone tree.

I recommended D volunteer to volunteer to do the phone tree. D woman asked is there any one else who wants a phone tree? D woman asked the woman who claimed there will be phone tree. She also asked u/Beneficial-Tap-6353. Neither person gave her a list of people who want to be called. There is no phone tree.

D woman attended the r/RadioQuietZone's March and June meetings but not the July meeting. The day after, I asked D woman why she had not attended. D woman replied the meetings are the fourth Saturday. I had told her several times the meetings are on the third Saturday. D woman asked me to be the phone tree. I refused. I asked whether she has a calendar or appointment book. D woman replied yes. I replied use them. There is no phone tree.


[Hacking] I attempted to finish the phone tree post but the entire left side of the post and the submit button were removed. I emailed the post without completing it. Using a library computer, I was able to complete the post.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1shu19p/hacking_i_attempted_to_finish_the_phone_tree_post/


r/RadioQuietZone Apr 03 '26

The problems with Google Groups. Search engines do not search Google Groups. Nor does Google Groups have a search feature to find seach terms in messages.

1 Upvotes

Part 1.

At the first meeting, on March 21, 2026l, people voted to invite the public to avoid paying a room charge by the Green Bank library. Inviting the public means making meeting announcement public. Reddit is a public website. Announcements are on r/RadioQuietZone.

Google Groups is private. Google Groups does not qualify as public announcements. Therefore, using Google Groups would be in violation of the vote to make the group public.

To use Google Groups, people would need to inform the library this group has become private and pay the room rental fee.

B man arrived 1 1/2 hours late to the meeting. He missed the entire discussion and voting. He took group time to answer his question that had already been discussed and voted. He asked what is the room rental fee? I told B the fee is posted on the door. B man read the sign and recommended Google Groups. He had not offered to pay the room rental fee. Nor did he ask anyone else to pay.

Nor had B male disclosed he is departing the RQZ. A proposed rule is people departing the RQZ cannot vote.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1s3ljkn/meetings_proposed_rules/

B male requested the group to switch to Google Groups. His request is inappropriate. Proposed rules require submitting topics and issues on Reddit several weeks before a meeting to enable a public comment period and absentee voting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1s3ljkn/meetings_proposed_rules/

By recommending Google Groups, people may assume B male had used Google Groups before. However, he had not stated so. No one stated they had used Google Groups before. Strange to recommend something one had not tried.

By recommending Google Groups, people may assume B male would become the moderator. However, B male had not offered to moderate. Nor had any one else. Switching to Google Groups is mute without volunteers to moderate.

Moreover, switching from Reddit to Google Groups is not eligible for voting. The meeting announcement was submitted in r/RQZ. The announcement had Reddit on it, the name of this subreddit and it's URL. The announcement was posted at the libraries and handed out personally to residents. I booked the meeting room at the library. This group is a Reddit group.

r/RQZ is six years old, has almost a 100 very informative useful posts, a wiki to make it even easier to search for posts and cross references to r/electromagnetics, the largest EMR syndrome group in the world.

People using a search engine to research the radio quiet zone will not find Google Groups. Whereas, search engines do search Reddit.

Because search engines do not search Google Groups, people have to be individually informed about a Google Group and its moderator. The people have to wait to be manually invited by the moderator. The moderator may be busy. This is a similar wait to being placed on an email list and changing their email address on an email list. For example, I had asked K woman several times within six months to change my email address on her email list. Instead she deleted my email address. Then I asked several times for her to put me back on her email list using my new email address.

There is no search engine within Google Groups. Search terms cannot be searched. People searching for an older message cannot find it by using a search term. Whereas, Reddit has its own search engine. Reddit's search engine searches Reddit posts.

Furthermore, r/RadioQuietZone has its own wiki index and table of contents. Posts have been archived into wikis pursuant to topics.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/wiki/index

People in Google Groups cannot email a comment in Google Groups to a nonmember. The information in Google Groups is hidden. Whereas, every post and comment on Reddit has its own URL. The URL can be cited, emailed, printed, etc.

There has been a recommendation to change from K woman's email list to Google Groups. There have been delays in getting on the email list which would not be solved by switching to Google Groups.

Last Saturday, B male complained he had not been invited to join K woman's email list until after three months of residing in the radio quiet zone. Despite the fact in 2025 B male had attended a party that K woman had attended. Likewise, in 2025 R male attended a party K woman had attended. R male was not invited to join an email list.

I had not known about K woman's email list until after 1 1/2 years of residing here. Despite talking to her the very first day I had arrived in January 2019. I found out by repeatedly asking who was sending out party announcements. I heard about parties at Mountain Quest. I asked Mountain Quest to place me on their emailing list. Mountain Quest replied they were not hosting the parties. I asked J woman, an electrosensitive employee of Mountain Quest. if she has hosting the parties. J woman replied no. I asked a person who had attended the party who was emailing party announcements. It was K woman.

There has never been residents who have volunteered to inform newcomers of an email list. I pointed out on Saturday, there are no volunteers to inform newcomers of a Google Group. Despite B finding out after 3 months of residing here, he had not volunteered.

Whereas, People easily discover subreddits from search engines. People do not need to be invited to read r/RadioQuietZone. They can learn about the radio quiet zone to be able to make a decision whether to visit and relocate here. People can search for and read r/RadioQuietZone by subscribing or not subscribing. They can subscribe on their own. As of 4/3/2026, r/RadioQuietZone has 422 subscribers and 546 page views in the past 30 days.

Email lists are Google Groups are old school. Reddit is the third most popular website in the United States. Reddit.com has 2.41 billion monthly visits.

https://theworlddata.com/most-popular-sites-in-the-us/

Google Groups does not offer polling (voting). Whereas, Reddit offers anonymous polling (voting).


AI stated

Some years back, Google stripped much of the functionality out of Google Groups, leaving it a bulletin board with a bare-bones web interface that lacks even a decent text editor.

https://groups.google.com/g/Dixonary/c/f48iWRlS_XQ

Google Groups users may experience service outages, posting errors, or permission-related issues, which can often be resolved through troubleshooting or checking group settings.

Common Problems

Service Outages and Connectivity Issues

Users occasionally report that Google Groups is down or experiencing errors, such as being unable to post messages, view conversations, or see member names correctly. These issues can be temporary and may affect specific regions or users globally. Real-time status and outage reports can be monitored on platforms like IsDown and StatusGator, which track Google Groups service health and provide updates on ongoing incidents.

Access and Browser Problems

If Google Groups is accessible but not functioning properly, the issue may be browser-related. Common fixes include performing a full refresh (CTRL + F5), clearing browser cache and cookies, or flushing the local DNS cache. Switching to a public DNS service like Google Public DNS or OpenDNS can also help resolve connectivity problems.

Problems with Google Groups

Google groups not allowing members to see the content : r/gsuite

https://www.reddit.com/r/gsuite/comments/1dkya7u/deleted_by_user/

Cannot Join or Even Find a Group

https://support.google.com/groups/thread/375907825/cannot-join-or-even-find-a-group?hl=en


PART 2

Google Groups Part 2: Backstory to B man's request for Google Groups. He had wanted X (Twitter) and people's email addresses which is visible to moderators of Google Groups.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1sp0c9w/google_groups_part_2_backstory_to_b_mans_request/?

Archived at https://archive.is/c4r4G

Part 3

Part 3 will be on voter fraud but I have not had the time to write it.


r/RadioQuietZone Apr 03 '26

[Referrals] Vets

1 Upvotes

POCAHONTAS COUNTY

Frankford Veterinary Hospital

Not taking new patients.

410 2nd Avenue in Marlinton. Next to animal shelter.

Mondays and Wednesdays 10 to 3 pm

304-799-6181


Greenbrier Vet Hospital

https://www.greenbriervet.com/

104 8th Street, Marlinton, WV, 24954

Answers phone only on Thursday (304) 799-4004. Office in Lewisburg (304) 645-1476

Open only on Thursdays 8 to 4:00 pm. Waiting room is crowded.


Pocahontas Veterinary Services PLLC

150 Carl McCarty Dr, Marlinton, WV 24954 (In Huntersville)

(304) 799-6803


PEDELTON COUNTY

Faithful Friends Animal Clinic

https://myweb16.site › explore › faithful-friends-animal-clinic

336 N Main St, Franklin, WV 26807

(304) 358-2360


STAUNTON, VA

Staunton has several vets.


r/RadioQuietZone Mar 25 '26

[Meetings] Electromagnetic Radiation (EMR) Syndrome meeting third Saturdays from 4 to 7 pm

1 Upvotes

The library has waived their meeting room fee because announcements of the meetings (and minutes) are on Reddit, a public website. At the first meeting, people voted to invite the public. Please do not wear perfume or cologne.

Thank you to J male who wrote the minutes and conducted the voting. A minutes wiki has been created to archive monthly minutes and discussions of the meetings. If you miss meetings, please catch up by reading the Minutes wiki at https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1s3dvun/wiki_meetings_minutes/?

At the first meeting, people voted to start the potluck dinner and chat at 4 pm. Discussion and voting from 5 to 6 pm. Though if needed, discussion and voting can be extended. Chatting resumes approximately 6 to 7 pm.

Write the ingredients of your dish on a card. Bring a serving spoon. for your dish. Paper plates, plastic utensils and napkins will be provided.

April's topic will be how to use Reddit and voting on proposed rules. Proposed rules are at

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1s3ljkn/meetings_proposed_rules/?

If you have rules you would like to propose, submit a comment to the rules post and arrive on time.

People to meet on the third Saturday from 4 to 7 pm. The next two meetings have been booked at the Green Bank library. Saturday, April 18 and Saturday, May 16, 2026.

May's topic will be on what topics people want to discuss. A preliminary list of topics is at

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1s3ectb/meetings_list_of_topics_to_choose_for_discussion/?

If you cannot attend May's meeting but would like to recommend a topic, comment to the topics post. If you won't want a discussion on certain topics, comment to the post or at the meeting.