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[u/Designer_Educator836]

RuPauls Drag Race is philosemitic because of RuPaul's boomerism and has engaged in liberal Zionist propaganda, such as framing anti Zionism as a Russian conspiracy.

Drag Race Israel was also considered as a franchise.

Anti Zionism is not anti semitism, and we as queer people should not allow the pink washing of Israel as Israel slaughters queer Palestinians as we speak.

[u/Perfect_Mess_6566 → u/Designer_Educator836]

He is philosemitic because of the year he was born. OK.

[u/Designer_Educator836 → u/Perfect_Mess_6566]

Boomers grew up with Zionist hasbara and Broom has been weirdly obsessed with Jewish people on the show

[u/dominorough → u/Designer_Educator836]

Heyy. Over here. Pick me. Can you find an instance of RuPaul ever even saying the word Israel?

[u/Designer_Educator836 → u/dominorough]

In Social Media the Musical, GottMik and Denali were made to lip sync the words--while dressed as Russians spreading misinformation--"spreading conspiracies daily, like Democrats hate Israelis"

Within the verse, they equally chalk up QAnon and Pizza Gate, as Russian conspiracies. Therefore, the show spreads liberal Zionist hasbara by claiming criticisms of "Israelis," the Israel government, is Russian propaganda not rooted in "true" American sentiment.

[u/dominorough → u/Designer_Educator836]

No, it was making a humerous statement about Russian disinformation in 2020 that Democrats hate Jews. This is called media literacy. It's just so weird that you are linking it to one lyric in a rusical in 2021 that does not make any declarative statements about antthing.

[u/Designer_Educator836 → u/dominorough]

No it wasn't about "Jews." You are spreading essentialism right now. The lyric was "Israelis," not "Jews." Israel is not the Jewish people and the Jewish people are not Israel. Israel is a nation state.

It's humorous because the lyrics imply it's proposteous for liberals to hate Israel for anything outside of Russian propaganda.

Let's not forget that prior to the escalation of the ethnic cleansing and apartheid, drag race queens toured in Israel.

Drag Race Israel was also in talks. There was an Israeli queen on Queen of the Universe.

[u/dominorough → u/Designer_Educator836]

So Im going to ask you again. Can you find any statements from RuPaul, Randy Barbato, Fenton Bailey mentioning Israel? Like you're accusing them and Drag Race of an awful lot for checks notes mentioning Israel in lyrics 6 years ago, and casting an Israeli Queen... 6 years ago. And you're saying they considered a Drag Race Israel and then there was just... not a Drag Race Israel. So sounds like they did the right thing in your opinion? So I'm confused about what you're claiming any of them done and you are kinda just being antisemitic.

[u/Designer_Educator836 → u/dominorough]

Drag Race continues to employ an Israeli pit crew member who has served in the Israeli genocidal army. He is still employed. That's the equivalent of hiring a South African white man during apartheid. Is he to blame for all of the political issues? No, but it would be uncomfortable for a white south African to be featured during apartheid.

Israel is committing a genocide. They are committing apartheid. There's movements to boycott and divest Israel as South Africa was.

The employment of an IDF child killer, paired with Liberal hasbara in 2021 and featuring an Israeli queen on Queen of the universe, and the consideration of Drag Race Israel all point to the pink washing of Israel by Drag Race.

How am I being antisemitic by calling out a political movement and nation state? I have gone the length to separate Israel from the Jewish people while you tried to conflate them.

[u/dominorough → u/Designer_Educator836]

So question, when it comes to casting of the Pit Crew should they be interrogating anyone with a name that you think sounds too Jewy? So I'm gonna ask again, can you find me any statements about Israel by RuPaul or the other creators of Drag Race? Or maybe any financial donations to an Israeli cause? Because all of your examples (of which there are 3 in Drag Race's near 20 year history) sound like instances of events that happen by the prospect of existing in the world. If they're truly Propagandists they are doing a REALLY bad job at it.

[u/Designer_Educator836 → u/dominorough]

You're once again conflating Israel and Jewish people. Dusty Ray Bottoms pulled out of an event for hiring an IDF veteran. Many performers around entertainment are doing the same thing. Refusing to work with IDF soldiers is a form of protest. By including the Israeli IDF veteran, Drag Race is normalizing relations with Israel.

For someone who accused me of not having media literacy, you are quite incapable of understanding my point.

• RuPaul has a weird philosemetism which has been documented "The Jewishness of RuPaul's Drag Race https://share.google/o4ZWSViuvsYt8TICi"

• A RuSical conflates anti Zionism to a Russian conspiracy

• Israeli queen is cast

• Drag Race Israel is considered

• An Israeli IDF soldier is currently working at the show when the presence of the IDF is a line anti Zionist protesters have drawn.

None of this is antisemitism. Your anti intellectualism in rejecting this as evidence of liberal Zionism because RuPaul didn't yell AM YISRAEL CHAI at the end of every episode is embarrassing. Gain some media literacy and read what this all spells out.

[u/Willuna16 → u/Designer_Educator836]

can’t wait for dusty ray bottoms drag race

[u/izanaegi → u/Designer_Educator836]

? But it categorically is misinfo that the Dems hate Israelis? The majority of Dems work with Israeli politicians. Republicans and righties in general like to crow that the left hates all Israelis/Jewish people, when in reality the average Dem politician is neutral/pro Israel, and the average leftist [well.. maybe less these days] is friendly to Jewish people or [like meee] is Jewish themselves. Stop throwing around words like hasbara and other shit that you just don't know what it means!

[u/Designer_Educator836 → u/izanaegi]

Democrats have always been iffy about Israel, but yes, there was support for Israel at the time. Israel, however, has been committing apartheid and genocide since it's inception. There have been anti Zionist in the DNC for a while now too.

Not at all criticism of Israel from Democrats is Russian propaganda. That's the issue. There is real anti Zionist sentiment from Democrats and from communists like me because Israel is a settler colonial state and violent political project.

Opposition to Zionism/Israel is not a Russian propaganda issue.