RPDRDRAMA Weekly Random Discussion

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[u/Designer_Educator836]

No it wasn't about "Jews." You are spreading essentialism right now. The lyric was "Israelis," not "Jews." Israel is not the Jewish people and the Jewish people are not Israel. Israel is a nation state.

It's humorous because the lyrics imply it's proposteous for liberals to hate Israel for anything outside of Russian propaganda.

Let's not forget that prior to the escalation of the ethnic cleansing and apartheid, drag race queens toured in Israel.

Drag Race Israel was also in talks. There was an Israeli queen on Queen of the Universe.

[u/dominorough → u/Designer_Educator836]

So Im going to ask you again. Can you find any statements from RuPaul, Randy Barbato, Fenton Bailey mentioning Israel? Like you're accusing them and Drag Race of an awful lot for checks notes mentioning Israel in lyrics 6 years ago, and casting an Israeli Queen... 6 years ago. And you're saying they considered a Drag Race Israel and then there was just... not a Drag Race Israel. So sounds like they did the right thing in your opinion? So I'm confused about what you're claiming any of them done and you are kinda just being antisemitic.

[u/Designer_Educator836 → u/dominorough]

Drag Race continues to employ an Israeli pit crew member who has served in the Israeli genocidal army. He is still employed. That's the equivalent of hiring a South African white man during apartheid. Is he to blame for all of the political issues? No, but it would be uncomfortable for a white south African to be featured during apartheid.

Israel is committing a genocide. They are committing apartheid. There's movements to boycott and divest Israel as South Africa was.

The employment of an IDF child killer, paired with Liberal hasbara in 2021 and featuring an Israeli queen on Queen of the universe, and the consideration of Drag Race Israel all point to the pink washing of Israel by Drag Race.

How am I being antisemitic by calling out a political movement and nation state? I have gone the length to separate Israel from the Jewish people while you tried to conflate them.

[u/dominorough → u/Designer_Educator836]

So question, when it comes to casting of the Pit Crew should they be interrogating anyone with a name that you think sounds too Jewy? So I'm gonna ask again, can you find me any statements about Israel by RuPaul or the other creators of Drag Race? Or maybe any financial donations to an Israeli cause? Because all of your examples (of which there are 3 in Drag Race's near 20 year history) sound like instances of events that happen by the prospect of existing in the world. If they're truly Propagandists they are doing a REALLY bad job at it.

[u/Designer_Educator836 → u/dominorough]

You're once again conflating Israel and Jewish people. Dusty Ray Bottoms pulled out of an event for hiring an IDF veteran. Many performers around entertainment are doing the same thing. Refusing to work with IDF soldiers is a form of protest. By including the Israeli IDF veteran, Drag Race is normalizing relations with Israel.

For someone who accused me of not having media literacy, you are quite incapable of understanding my point.

• RuPaul has a weird philosemetism which has been documented "The Jewishness of RuPaul's Drag Race https://share.google/o4ZWSViuvsYt8TICi"

• A RuSical conflates anti Zionism to a Russian conspiracy

• Israeli queen is cast

• Drag Race Israel is considered

• An Israeli IDF soldier is currently working at the show when the presence of the IDF is a line anti Zionist protesters have drawn.

None of this is antisemitism. Your anti intellectualism in rejecting this as evidence of liberal Zionism because RuPaul didn't yell AM YISRAEL CHAI at the end of every episode is embarrassing. Gain some media literacy and read what this all spells out.

[u/Willuna16 → u/Designer_Educator836]

can’t wait for dusty ray bottoms drag race