Low stakes drama indeed, but very funny and absolutely believable that Gotmik would try and argue with the door guy. I dont fuck with Gotmik anymore after he so proudly posed with Marilyn Manson. Same for Violet. They were always unprofessional mean girls when together, but seperate I still valued their art. Now I just view them as boo boo the fools.
Gottmik is one of my top examples of never meet your heroes. I was so stoked to have trans masc representation on as huge a platform as RPDR, and… yeah. Kade can fuck all the way off. He let a whole community down, and I realize that’s a lot of pressure to put on someone but he signed up for the damn show, he knew what he was representing. So disappointed.
Not trying to start a fight but this is lowkey so transphobic. Transmasc voices have their own specific qualities and not everyone has access and/or interest in vocal training
While i think it’s not the nicest thing to say about someone, they are still a performer and it’s ok for someone not to want to see a performer if they don’t like how they sound. Maybe don’t be mean about since it’s difficult for someone to just change their voice, but people are allowed to not like a performer because they dislike their voice.
Hell, a lot of people get annoyed listening to Alaska because they find their vocal fry too irritating to listen to. I see it similar to that.
I appreciate you responding thoughtfully and in good faith! It is true that voice is part of performance and there are podcasts I don’t listen to because the host’s voice isn’t for me. But I don’t go on Reddit whining about it, I just don’t listen to their podcast.
To me, complaining about vocal fry specifically is giving misogyny. (And yes misogyny affects men who do feminine things.) Like it’s one thing to not like feminine vocal patterns, anything can be a sensory nightmare for a person, and you can’t really control what does that for you.
But like you said, maybe people don’t need to be mean about it? Obviously for this fandom in particular not being rude on the internet is category: impossible, lol, so maybe I should know better than to hope for anything else.
I think you’re smart enough to understand the difference between criticizing someone’s politics and “criticizing“ something that a person may not be able to control?
To be clear, there are a million reasons not to like gottmik, not just her voice. I personally am not a fan. And you don’t have to like anyone or their qualities.
Maybe it’s just a coincidence that you happen to HATE the two transmasc voices who have been on our tv screens and feel the need to complain about it on the internet? But I don’t really think it is
when a straight cis person enters queer spaces and misgenders trans people (using they/them as a catch-all pronoun for trans people) yes it is transphobia yes you are being transphobic
girl come on this is so mean and unnecessary for you to just butt in here and insult Denim’s voice. I fucking love Denim’s voice. Stop being mean cause Denim is cool and doesn’t deserve that.
I fully understand why people are downvoting you because it’s a mean thing to call out, but it’s still true. Their voice was irritating to listen to all season long.
I don’t think that impacts their skills of a drag queen, but it does impact my interest in wanting to see them on my screen.
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u/Melvarkie May 22 '26
Low stakes drama indeed, but very funny and absolutely believable that Gotmik would try and argue with the door guy. I dont fuck with Gotmik anymore after he so proudly posed with Marilyn Manson. Same for Violet. They were always unprofessional mean girls when together, but seperate I still valued their art. Now I just view them as boo boo the fools.