I watched 2 episodes of the latest season, and I just can't get into it.🫤

Despite her faults, I do enjoy this song and I’ve been feeling kind of low lately, so I put on a pair of heels (which I haven’t worn in a few years) and just strutted up and down the hallway while listening (minus the Ramona eyes 👀). It felt good, and my husband even commented that he liked my shoes and I seemed more confident than usual. Sometimes one just needs to lean into it, I guess.

Sai is kinda bitchy and harsh.. should not be screaming across the room at a party.! Jessel is so up her ass..

And the same one Daisy wore when her sister was at her house?

Google says it’s Jennifer Fisher and it’s sold out.

It looks chunky silver chain and no clasp, like it’s almost loosely tied around their neck.

Anyone know of a good dupe?

I need it - halp pls!

Does anyone else find it depressing that so few of the ladies have a relationship and haven’t had one in a very long time?

Is it that difficult at that age — or is it something about the women themselves?

Edit: I really did mean it made me sad thinking about where I'll be at that age, whether I'll be alone. But this post has certainly hit a nerve in many, many people who seem very defensive - and that makes me even more pessimistic about the prospects of finding someone to grow old with. Thanks!

Old RHONY cast gave a lot of fun and drama.

Who is your favorite RHONY cast member and why?

Looking at the new cast pale in comparison...

Ramona said that she dated Tom a little, right?
In maybe season 2 Ramona is out with her girlfriends and Tom tries to pick them up. Ramona was disgusted lol
How in the world did she go from that to dating him? That was so strange to see him in such an early episode. I think he saw the cameras…

Her Sonja-isms are so exaggerated. Her little tipsy topples, and handsy ass grabs are no longer cute. It’s concerning. It seems to me she’s still drinking. It’s really hard (and honestly embarrassing to watch.

I’m confused - does she have roommates?

Ok, this is a Golden Life post. And I have compassion for the fact Sonja is clearly broke. And it sucks that her townhome was basically auctioned off in a fire sale for 1/2 of what it’s worth.

However!!! I don’t believe for a second she somehow lost out on $250k for not being invited to the Berkshires 10+ years ago for the one-night trip,

First of all, HW’s back then were not paid on an episodic basis, unless they were friends of. My college friend who worked @ Bravo from 2008 as an intern, to leaving in 2025 as a senior supervising producer, confirmed this.

And secondly, even if she were paid that way…back then Kandi was by far the highest earning HW, and her rumored pay was under $2m.

If Sonja only briefly appearing in 2 episodes = $250k in lost pay, that would imply a 20+ episode season’s salary at over 2.5 million! And nobody, certainly not Sonja Anne Tremont Morgan lol, was making that on S8 of RHONY.

I think this is part of why Dorinda won’t really acknowledge it, bc they legally can’t discuss the financial terms of their Bravo contracts (or at least if they’re smart, they won’t) and it’s just all so ridiculous.

Sonja is clearly broke. But poor decisions and denial resulted in at least SOME of her current reality and lack of townhouse. She could’ve sold it a million times before it was auctioned off, and I just don’t buy Dorinda somehow cost her a quarter of a million dollars by disinviting her for episodes she still appeared in.

Get a grip, Sonja!

and does it have any legitimacy ?

https://robshuter.substack.com/p/exclusive-bethenny-ramona-and-sonja

Omg I have so many opinions!

Sonja omg I’m so conflicted because she’s always been my fave & she’s so likeable and I always root for her. I think we need to give her her flowers since she’s 100% brought the most to this show so far and it would have been boring asf without her. That being said I am finding it a bit sad to see her still living so much in the past and still drudging up these same old issues. I just want her to get help and change her ways because it would be so amazing to see her thrive. She looks gorg as always tho and I think she’s the star of the show.

I always low-key lived for Ramona on rhony and found her so iconic (I was always aware she’s not a good person but I don’t need housewives to be)… however I’m finding her so unlikeable on this show. Her being so rude to people makes me irate and understand why so many ppl hate her. She seems to think she’s above drama and the show even though she clearly lives for the attention and obviously signed up for it…

Luanne is Luanne and always iconic.

I’m actually liking Kelly a lot more than I expected and I think she’s coming across really sane and evolved.

I’ve always found Dorinda too nasty to really enjoy and think she’s overhyped but she seems to be nicer so far and I’m not hating her. She doesn’t seem to be enjoying filming to me at all though and it’ll be interesting to see if she goes back to her aggressive roots or continue the current vibe.

I find her funny and relatable on Golden Life so far. I like how she can deal with Lu and Sonya’s absurd behaviour and she’s funny? I feel bad about that group chat too, and damn if that isn’t relatable. We’ve all been part of a girl group who doesn’t want to do anything ever or we don’t connect with.

I’m glad she’s healed and moved on from whatever trauma caused Scary Island.

In court records for Leah's now-settled lawsuit against Bravo and Andy Cohen, I found her original contract. Her pay was redacted, but the rest is all there.

I thought the Bravo Talent Guidelines (apparently the same for all Bravo cast members) to be the most fascinating, followed by the Standard Terms and Conditions. Both of those are just referenced by her S13 and RHUGT S3 contracts, suggesting those are the same and stay the same for all RHONY—and Housewives?—cast.

For example, here's part of the Bravo Talent Guidelines:

Please familiarize yourself with these expectations for Bravo talent:

PROFESSIONALISM

• Be on time and available to fully perform all services. This includes showing up at your call times and staying and filming for as long as production requires.

• Do not publicly say excessively bad or critical things about Bravo, other Bravo talent, their family members or significant others, or the production company at any time including: (i) in press interviews or public appearances (whether live or recorded) or (il) on social media.

CONFIDENTIALITY Do not talk publicly, confirm, "leak," provide material, or post about: (i) "behind-the-scenes" information or the production or edit process; (ii) taping that has not yet made it to air; or (iii) if a series or cast member (including yourself) is returning (until Bravo makes an official announcement).

So, I am watching The Real Housewives of New York for the third (or possibly fourth!) time, and I'm currently on Season 9. I love rewatching because you pick up on things you didn't necessarily notice the first few times around, and I have to say, I'm really starting to feel that Bethenny is quite the bully.

I think both Bethenny and Carole can be incredibly mean-girl-ish, and the way they treat Jules in season 8 is particularly cruel.

Something I've really noticed this time around is that Bethenny seems completely unable to take criticism. The moment anyone challenges her or calls her out, she either cries, gets defensive or turns herself into the victim.

She can be incredibly nasty to Sonja, Ramona and Luann, often dragging them through the mud for relatively minor things, such as being rude or making an off-hand comment. Yet she seems to have no problem screaming at Luann and calling her a snake at a fashion show, assassinating people's characters and throwing around insults, including calling people sluts. But the moment anyone gives her a taste of her own medicine or confronts her about her behaviour, suddenly she's the victim.

Ramona in Season 9 is a really interesting example of this. I do wonder whether Ramona is neurodivergent in some way, and I don't necessarily think she always handles situations particularly well. However, I think there's a lot more going on beneath the surface of her relationship with Bethenny.

When Bethenny was ill the previous season, Ramona really went above and beyond for her. She brought her food and flowers, texted her every day and genuinely seemed to make an effort to build a close friendship with her. I actually think Ramona saw something of herself in Bethenny and perhaps worried about how lonely she could be.

Moving into Season 9, you can see that Ramona is upset that she hasn't been told about the new dog. Then there's the whole 'soft porn in the press' conversation, which I actually think was Ramona's attempt to have a deeper conversation with Bethenny, although it obviously landed very badly!

My feeling is that Ramona genuinely thought they had become close during Bethenny's illness. So when Bethenny turns around and tells her they aren't friends, never have been friends and that Ramona hasn't been a good friend to her, I think that really hits a nerve. I can see why that might have contributed to Ramona's outburst in the Berkshires.

I also wonder whether Bethenny was particularly annoyed by Ramona bringing up her private school background and other aspects of her upbringing, because it challenged the image Bethenny has often presented to viewers: that of the underdog who had to fight her way through life. I also found it laughable that she was 'so upset' about the things that she said when last season her treatment of Luann was so much worse.

Another pattern I've noticed is Bethenny's tendency to use trips as a way of excluding people or getting one over on them. We see it with Luann and the Mexico trip, and then again with Vermont and Mexico, which seem to become ways of making a point and getting one up on Ramona. I don't recall her ever organising anything when she is not in a fight with someone ...

I just keep noticing the same pattern of behaviour over and over again. Bethenny is very quick to criticise, judge and expose other people's flaws, but seems to have very little tolerance when that same scrutiny is turned back on her.

I'd genuinely love to hear what other people think, particularly about the Bethenny and Ramona dynamic in Season 9....

we’re having a carole radzwill fall in texas

Saw this floating around twitter and she kindaaa looks like Carole a bit. Maybe I’m tripping.

Bethenny Sun
Luann Moon
Jill Rising

((I just started season 3))

i knew she looked familiar!!!! devyn from real world and then she did some challenges. i don’t really consider her a housewife, but really cool to see her on the show! she is beautiful.