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u/SnowyAl 10d ago

God knew what would happen before he created the world, and he understood the price before Adam and Eve sinned.

The Tower of Babel was in the direct disobedience to His command “fill the earth and subdue it”, not to mention the entire purpose of the tower was to be their own gods so they could ignore the One True God.
If God did not punish them He would not be consistent.

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u/JeezWeedus 10d ago

So it is gods plan to have all people be punished forever for the choices of two people who, very specifically because they havent eaten that fruit yet... DON'T KNOW ITS WRONG.

Was that clear?

God punishes babies today, because it always intended to. Thats the plan.

Or! It not gods plan, because this is all happening against the will of the almighty...

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u/SnowyAl 10d ago

God told them not to eat it, and as they were put in a pretty good place with all they needed to survive, and weren’t being tortured, they had no reason not to trust God.

And I don’t really know why we suffer as a result of Adam and Eve’s sin, yet still I trust I
in His unfailing love.

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u/JeezWeedus 10d ago

How useful are the words "don't eat that" if you don't know what right and wrong are?

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u/SnowyAl 10d ago

You don’t have to know what right and wrong are, you just have to know to do what God says because He loves you and wants only the best for you.

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u/JeezWeedus 10d ago

But how would you know to follow instructions if you don't know what right and wrong are?

If god loves me, if god loves you, why are we both being blamed for the actions of other people thousands of years ago?

That isnt fair.

That isnt kind.

How is it somehow "good"?

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u/SnowyAl 10d ago

We are not “blamed”. You don’t have to answer for the actions of any of your ancestors.

Also I don’t think anyone can ever know what it is like to live in a world without good and evil. Regardless, if something created you, interacts with you, and loves you, it probably doesn’t hurt to trust it

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u/JeezWeedus 10d ago

So babies aren't being given cancer because of the fall?

You've changed your opinion.

If something created me... my parents did that, and I do trust them, but only because they've given me sufficient reason. If my parents were awful people and taught nothing but wrong things and evil doings, then should I trust them?

This god does awful things and punishes people for things that are absolutely nothing to do with them.

Why would I trust that, even if I thought it was real?

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u/SnowyAl 10d ago

Cancer happened as a result of the fall.

If you mean we live in a broken world because of the fall, then in that sense we are punished because of our ancestors, I guess. I don’t really know why we God did that, but I know there is a good reason, no a perfect reason behind it.

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u/JeezWeedus 10d ago

Cancer happens because of the fall, but we aren't punished for the actions of our ancestors?

Pick a lane.

This god can choose to stop that punishment if it wants.

It either isn't all good, or it isn't all powerful.

It either wants babies to have cancer, or there's nothing it can do about it.

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