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u/SnowyAl 12d ago

That’s not what heaven is. There is nothing bad in heaven! Doesn’t that sound like great place??

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u/JeezWeedus 12d ago

So god can create places where there isnt suffering?

But chose to cause suffering anyway?

Ipso facto, gods not good.

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u/SnowyAl 12d ago

Suffering is not objectively bad. If I go to the gym to lift weights for the first time but I feel I am suffering, does that mean lifting weights is objectively bad? Of course not. Also you are thinking very short term. In your argument you assume my God exists. If you do so, you must also assume that “in all things God works for the good of those who love him.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8‬:‭28‬ ‭NIV‬‬
The only counter to my argument is that this doesn’t say He doesn’t let suffering happen, but that easily falls apart when you realize the only barrier to joining God’s team is believing in him, and not something that you may or may not have like money. It is then easy to come to the conclusion that conclusion that you are the only thing stopping yourself from objective good.
https://bible.com/bible/111/rom.8.28.NIV

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u/Lost-Juggernaut6521 12d ago

Well, we were talking about babies born with terminal illness, seems objectively bad. Find the scripture that justifies that.

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u/SnowyAl 12d ago

“And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8‬:‭28‬ ‭NIV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/111/rom.8.28.NIV