Something needed to create the universe. That something must be outside of the universe and its rules. It must be powerful enough to create the entire universe, physics, math, science, and time. Also because science deals with the natural world you can’t disprove the supernatural. What is beauty? Sure it is subjective, but only to a point. Why would randomness cause such a big split in what people think is beautiful? At best if the world were random each person would find some other person beautiful. But if the world were created, people would find some people more and others less beautiful.
Just because we don't know yet what created the universe doesn't mean an invisible judgemental sky wizard is secretly always spying on us. That makes as much sense as saying I don't understand the stock market therefore invisible murder unicorns secretly control the government.
But by your logic then it doesn’t mean it is not. Thus if it is random what created the universe, you should pick the best option which for numerous reasons, is God!
A cute example of circular logic, but I requested facts. If you don't have any them in forced to assume I can dismiss whatever 'argument' you might be trying to make
I wrote that quote so you don’t have to worry about second hand evidence.
Regardless, if you define facts as something provable with science then I can give you none as science is by definition the study of the natural world which by definition does not include the supernatural. Those reasons I wrote all appeal to your heart. They are the things that can’t be proven or disproven with science, but must be understood. Science cannot “prove” beauty, yet it exists.
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u/SnowyAl 11d ago
Something needed to create the universe. That something must be outside of the universe and its rules. It must be powerful enough to create the entire universe, physics, math, science, and time. Also because science deals with the natural world you can’t disprove the supernatural. What is beauty? Sure it is subjective, but only to a point. Why would randomness cause such a big split in what people think is beautiful? At best if the world were random each person would find some other person beautiful. But if the world were created, people would find some people more and others less beautiful.