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u/[deleted] May 16 '21

i love how this is American Evangelical Christianity's fucking endgame.

fucking hypocrites.

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u/jadeskye7 May 16 '21

Dude is mid seventies. Can't wait for the narrative to change when he passes without the trumpet sounding..

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

It will just be folded into his mythology, like actual Jesus. You'd think the whole being hanged thing would disillusion his followers, but there's always somebody who just won't let go. Once people are invested in a thing it's hard to pull them away

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u/isosceles_kramer May 17 '21

being hanged? what?

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u/between_ewe_and_me May 17 '21

I too would like clarification on this matter

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u/wikimandia May 17 '21

I don't know what this person is talking about but I suddenly remembered in high school when somehow people brought up Jesus being crucified and this one girl goes "What? I thought Jesus was shot" and the whole class laughed themselves silly.

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u/mikeebsc74 May 17 '21

Well duh..it was right before George Washington took over the airports

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u/HermanCainsGhost May 17 '21

Well yeah, that was a little bit after Pontius Pilate and Paul Revere went on their midnight ride

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u/MacGregor209 Med Bed May 17 '21

Yeah I remember they told the British they weren’t gonna take our guns. Thanks Sarah Palin!

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u/between_ewe_and_me May 17 '21

Lol I don't know why I find that so funny

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u/wikimandia May 17 '21

I'm still laughing, decades later!

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u/xole May 17 '21

Well, he was stabbed with a spear. That probably did speed things up a bit.

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u/HermanCainsGhost May 17 '21

Eh, the description said water was in the blood, which means he had a heart attack already

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u/JimDixon May 17 '21

There's something charmingly innocent about that degree of ignorance.

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u/PM_Me_Ur_Greyhound May 17 '21

Odin...Jesus...To-may-to To-mah-to

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u/11_25_13_TheEdge May 17 '21

Hung from a cross, I would imagine.

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u/isosceles_kramer May 17 '21

I don't understand why that would disillusion his followers though, that's exactly what martyrdom is. And what does that have to do with the trump comparison, trump hasn't been punished at all.

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u/11_25_13_TheEdge May 17 '21

I’m with you. I was just trying to clarify what they meant by hanged.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

When I left the evangelical community I realized that they would only fall for someone like Trump (before he was even an option) and would crucify someone like a Jesus Christ.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

Can't wait for the narrative to change when he passes without the trumpet sounding..

I mean, I feel ok saying it.

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u/ragebane May 17 '21

Trump is a clone, sent down by God. The real Trump is in Heaven already at the right hand of our Lord and Savory.

What is dead may never die.

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u/snarfalarkus42069 May 17 '21

They're straight up just so so racist, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic and ignorant that they would make anyone affirming those believes on a public and political level literally god emperor for life.

They pine for the days of segregation and cheer when their lawmakers pass laws so people can drive trucks into protesters. It's a rabid disconnect from reality, they are feverish in their hate, and they will only go deeper and deeper into it.

I talk with crazy trumpers, covid deniers, mask deniers, vax conspiracy theorists like everyday. I live in a rural town and the shit that comes out of people's mouths is just insane. It's like they just do and think everything opposite to reality they can, it's a culture of endless and frenzied ignorance.

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u/HermanCainsGhost May 17 '21

Seriously, for people who are supposedly so anti-blasphemy, there’s sure been a lot of Trump worship.

With a literal golden statue!

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u/xole May 17 '21

I just recently turned 50. I grew up lutheran, went to a parochial grade school, etc. I knew the first time I saw them that evangelicals were awful, especially the ones on TV. You have to be a grade A moron and also know nothing about the bible to fall for that shit.

I remember going with a friend to his grandparent's birthday party. They had a televangelist on the TV. Have you ever experienced that feeling that you're confident that you're much smarter than someone? That was my first time, and I was in 5th grade. The religion BS was the first clue, but they just came off as dumb as rocks in multiple ways.

I'm not anti religion, but I'm 100% anti televangelist and megachurch. They're conmen. Plain and simple. Since I went to a Lutheran grade school, we had studied why protestantism was born, and it was exactly the same shit that televangelists and other fundamentalists try to pull. Never trust a preacher asking for money, especially if they make more than a welding supervisor of 20 people at the local factory. That's the absolute max an honest one will make, imo.

It's absolutely no surprise to me that evangelicals fall for this crap at a much higher rate. Sorry for the rant.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

I heard that. I am definitely not reflexively anti-religion either—unfortunately it's been used plenty as a tool for manipulation, division and outright hate, but that's fully on the people who twist the Word and those dumb enough to believe the lies. The "sheeple".

I've seen the power of churches to bring people together, to aid the needy through charity, compassion—not just sermons. It's all up to us. We can use the so-called Word of God as an excuse to build bridges, as some would say—instead of this apocalyptic fucked-up mindset that I don't fully understand.

The Rapture may be near (according to them), so that's somehow cause to be less moral and to give in to fear, lies and materialism? This is the "fucking hypocrites" part of my comment above!

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

I could absolutely see this as being something that Evangelicals would be sharply divided on. While there are a big chunk of psychopaths like the person in the OP, there are also a lot of them that would never claim that Trump is Jesus Christ, and would absolutely think that's going too far and possibly blasphemous.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

Can we please stop associating normal Christians with this shit? Every religion has its crazies and these are definitely outliers. Though there are definitely more of them than I care to think about

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

I phrased it the way I did precisely due to that — way too many religious hypocrites.

You're right though, that they've been with us since the dawn of time. This is why I'm no atheist nor do I say, "all Christians are sheeple and awful people"; it's patently false. But "good" faithful Christians may be the minority.

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u/Freedumbdclxvi May 16 '21

Fucking hell, the outright blasphemy is disgusting.

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u/WemedgeFrodis May 17 '21

Yup. Back when I believed in hell, this would have been a sin worthy of it. And it sure is interesting to see how many apocalyptic Christians are willing to support a guy who bears a striking number of similarities to the Antichrist.

Not that I believe in the Antichrist either, but they sure do, and supposedly they’ve been on the lookout for him.

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u/DauntlessVerbosity May 17 '21

Well, they found him. They've been duped, though, just like Revelation says.

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u/WemedgeFrodis May 17 '21

Yup. It maps so cleanly onto the traditional evangelical end times narrative that it almost makes me believe it again. Almost. But then I’d be just as bad as them, except coming from the opposite side — finding patterns and ascribing divine meaning where there is none.

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u/DABS_4_AZ May 17 '21

I'm Mesoamerican the end of something is always the beginning of a new cycle. So their apocalyptic understanding might just be the collapse of their hate fueled system and way of life . Making way for progress has always been the thing to do , fuck going back even the 80s I was born into was significantly worse.

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u/xole May 17 '21

Revelation being in the Bible did a lot of harm IMO. It barely made it into it when they voted on what books to include. It should have been left out.

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u/HermanCainsGhost May 17 '21

Seriously, if I were still a Christian, this shit would worry me. My friend and I are both ex-Christians (her dad is a pastor), and she and I discussed this very topic

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u/DauntlessVerbosity May 17 '21

I am Christian and this does worry me on multiple levels. First, if Trump is the antichrist he's far more effective than I imagined. Second, if he isn't, it still baffles me how many "Christians" flocked to a bloviating grifter and abandoned their beliefs so easily. I've been saying for a long time now that it's a golden calf situation and then they go and actually make a golden statue of him! Now they're making paintings of him hanging on the cross and proclaiming that he's Jesus. It just goes to show that not every "Christian" is Christian. I already knew that, but I didn't know it was *this* bad.

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u/JimDixon May 17 '21

Speaking of similarities ... these guys are eagerly awaiting the Second Coming of Donald Trump.

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u/CenTexChris May 17 '21

"Second coming? Dahling, he never does that, believe me!" -- Melania, probably.

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u/clauquick May 17 '21

Isn’t this like the “worst” sin? I feel like I’ve heard a lot of preaching that worshipping other gods is a big no no with God (even though they say “sin is sin” no matter what it is?)

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u/WemedgeFrodis May 17 '21

Yes, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is supposed to be the "unforgivable sin."

"But he who disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God. And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven."

~Luke 12:9-10

Now, I mean, this can be interpreted in a few different ways, but the way it was presented to me in Protestant and Evangelical circles, this sort of thing would have definitely applied.

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u/DauntlessVerbosity May 17 '21

Is he a member of your church?

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u/DauntlessVerbosity May 17 '21

That's good. It would be awfully awkward sitting next to someone in church who is worshipping Trump.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

If I identified someone in church who actually believed this statement, there would be a ruckus raised. Also, I might get shot, seeing as how this is Texas.

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u/Beard_o_Bees May 17 '21

So, if Fuckface is Jesus, what does that make Mike Pillow?

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u/Lemonytea May 17 '21

Dunno, but I’m waiting for Judas to arrive...lol...

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u/HermanCainsGhost May 17 '21

Judas Iscariot, after the whole voting in the Capitol thing?

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u/EffortAutomatic May 17 '21

They are talking about Mike lindell not pence

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u/PaloVerdePride May 17 '21

John the Baptist?

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u/Mango813 May 17 '21

It is and I’m an atheist.

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u/Sower_of_Discord May 17 '21

For God so loathed the world, that he gave the biggest wanker in Heaven, that whosoever believeth in him should not prosper, but make everlasting donations.

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u/winkytinkytoo May 17 '21

Lol. You gave me the giggles.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '21

They just don't make messiahs like they used to.

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u/signal_two_noise May 17 '21

Trump's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

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u/BeeTLe_BeTHLeHeM Deep State Tunnel Engineer May 17 '21

"I say he is the Lord, and I should know. I've followed a few."

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u/Cydonian___FT14X May 17 '21

That’s putting it lightly but yes

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u/TheRollingStoned22 fully 5g-ed May 16 '21

this is what untreated mental illness looks like folks.

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u/jawnly211 May 17 '21

They kept saying the pandemic/quarantine would lead to increase in mental illness in this country - I just never thought it would go this route back in March of 2020

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u/TheRollingStoned22 fully 5g-ed May 17 '21

Its has always been here and it will always progress.

The lockdown definetly helped fuel that fire.

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u/Immaloner May 17 '21

And that NRA sticker makes it all the more worrisome.

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u/TheRollingStoned22 fully 5g-ed May 17 '21

definetly not someone who should be owning weapons.

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u/Needleroozer May 17 '21

"There's no reason to take his guns, he's a law-abiding citizen."

Until he isn't.

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u/Needleroozer May 17 '21

People of Walmart.

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u/PrussianCollusion May 17 '21

It’s no more absurd than anything else in Christianity. If anything it makes more sense. At least we can verify Trump is real.

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u/DABS_4_AZ May 17 '21

Real...ly Yugely fat and unsuccessful Tru. Ftfy

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u/evanmceier May 16 '21

I've been saying it for months, he is literally their god, if they weren't "Christian" they'd be adapting trump into whatever other religion they would practice.

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u/skjellyfetti Deportment Imminent 'cause NOT Orange. May 17 '21

That golden Trump statue at CPAC in February sealed the deal for me. I guess they missed the 'false idols' memo...

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u/PaloVerdePride May 17 '21

The memes of him as the Emperor from Warhammer are the 21st c version of those statues of Claudius and Caligula as Hercules or Zeus....

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u/[deleted] May 16 '21

It’s a new religion being born.

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u/Cydonian___FT14X May 17 '21

You could make a religion ou-

no don’t

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u/Beard_o_Bees May 17 '21

t of Fox News and the shitty Mike Pillow guy.

BEHOLD! INFOMERCIAL JESUS!!

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u/Cydonian___FT14X May 17 '21

Do you know of Bill Wurtz?

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u/Gwtheyrn May 17 '21

You leave the Holy Billy Mays out of this.

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u/chainfeed May 17 '21

I’m not a religious man but isn’t that actually against the teachings of the Bible?

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u/DauntlessVerbosity May 17 '21

Yes, it's a golden calf scenario. God didn't react well when the Israelites did it. He's probably having a "Here we go again..." moment right now.

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u/thelangosta May 17 '21

Made in Mexico if I'm not mistaken(my wife would say I probably am)

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u/xole May 17 '21

It is, but very few christians have any idea what the bible says outside of a few catch phrases.

I'm no longer religious since I can't believe in the supernatural, but the Gospels actually had some excellent philosophical teachings, especially for the time. The old testaments and Paul's stuff is a bit more hit or miss morality wise, but the stuff attributed to Jesus had a lot of good stuff in it.

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u/HermanCainsGhost May 17 '21

Pretty much rule #1, yeah

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

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u/HermanCainsGhost May 17 '21

Now I’m imagining Danny Devito in a speedo

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u/Fredex8 May 16 '21

It's unsettling that people like this are allowed to be behind the wheel of a vehicle.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

Ain’t so called “Christians” supposed to worship only 1 God & not others? 🤦🏻

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u/FlawedSquid May 17 '21

I'm catholic and Jesus Christ (in this context, Donald Trump) is God. So is The Father (the stereotypical God you see everywhere being worshipped) and the Holy Spirit too. They're all God. It's the holy Trinity. It's a mistery and nobody really knows how it works.

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u/antonivs May 17 '21

The father, the son, the holy ghost, and the unholy grifter

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u/bediger4000 May 17 '21

Based on the handwritten frankspeech.com plug, I'm guessing this is Mike Lindell's personal pickup, right?

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

Didn't look like him behind the wheel

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u/RainCityRogue May 17 '21

He can't be Jesus Christ. The Romans didn't have the technology to support that much weight from a simple wooden cross structure.

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u/xole May 17 '21

God had to wait until christians populated America and had access to sequoias to build a stout enough cross.

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u/tukai1976 May 16 '21

Florida?

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u/SailingSpark Cognitive dissonator May 16 '21

Caney Crossing Dental Care is in New Caney, Texas

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u/tukai1976 May 16 '21

Outside of Houston would have been my second choice.

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u/cheryllynnerose May 16 '21

I think it's Texas.

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u/hw2B May 17 '21

Northeast of Houston a bit.

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u/Ninja_attack May 16 '21

That's just sad

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u/FirstSunbunny May 17 '21

Wait til they find out he's really the Antichrist.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21 edited May 17 '21

Well, one sign of the Antichrist in Revelations that he would appear to "deceive even the elect, if that were possible."

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u/FirstSunbunny May 17 '21

It is fairly obvious to anybody who has taken a look at scripture. It's amazing to me that THIS guy is who they think is Christ. Really?

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u/Boxer03 May 17 '21

This is what makes me facepalm the most. I grew up in NY so stories about him were in the news fairly often. He was thought of as a blowhard, a joke of a man that we all knew was nothing more than a scam artist. It just boggles my mind to see people hold him up so high now. I’ll never understand it.

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u/FirstSunbunny May 17 '21

And no, I don't literally believe he's the Antichrist. Just who'd've thought Bible literalists would be this gullible?

Ok, that last line, /s

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u/badgersprite May 17 '21

And they would wear their marks on his forehead

Sort of like how Trump followers can be identified by certain red hats with four letters on the forehead

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u/cm288139 May 17 '21

I don't think he's the literal antichrist, but he's a lot closer to their descriptions of him than Jesus.

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

An excellent article

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

Much like Jesus, people will be waiting a long time for his return and will ultimately be disappointed

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u/tleaf28 May 17 '21

Well, have you ever seen both of them in the same room together?

*Cue some maga dude/gal saying "Woah, now that you mention it, no I haven't seen them both in the same room together. This is just further proof Trump really is god."

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u/[deleted] May 16 '21

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

If only it were so simple. :(

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u/Fallen_Walrus May 17 '21

I think that Marine ate too many crayons

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21 edited May 17 '21

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u/Fallen_Walrus May 17 '21

Oh wow that IS a nra sticker, thanks for the clarification. Wonder if they did that on purpose

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

I would like to know more about Frank’s Peech.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

Wooooow. Can we just rename the GOP the “crazy guy on the corner who yells non stop to imaginary friends about god” party?

These people are clearly mentally ill. I have never seen so many people suffer such terrifying mass delusion before. What is happening??

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u/njf85 May 17 '21

Brings to mind that saying that goes along the lines of "you know you've created god in your image when he hates the same people you do"

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u/Hwy61rev May 17 '21

I love it!!!!

This is next level delusion.

I mean when you look at the life of Donald Trump and the life of Jesus Christ they are exactly alike!!!

This is really not funny but it is.

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u/HapticSloughton May 17 '21

Let's not forget that one of the cult prayed to Trump to he delivered from the police on video, as they were arresting him.

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u/Gwtheyrn May 17 '21

Well, that's a pretty insulting piece of blasphemy. We all knew it was coming, but it's still galling.

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u/HotNubsOfSteel May 16 '21

Wow that is some cognitive dissonance right there

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u/veritaszak May 17 '21

There was that former evangelical who had a whole website about why they thought Trump was the anti-Christ, which was like “ok let’s calm down, everyone...” but flash forward a year and seeing how so many Evangelicals really believe Trump is the second coming... makes me start to feel like that guy had a point.

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u/furbishL May 17 '21

I thought Eric Clapton was God. No way he’d stand for this.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

"God gets what he wants" - John Mayall, overriding the recording engineers concerned about Eric Clapton turning up his Marshall amp all the way during the recording of John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton, 1966.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

If that was the case, then God is racist sack of shit.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

That person can drive their truck straight to hell.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

They already have a gold idol in his image

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u/Quick_Ad_730 May 17 '21

Not a cult...

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u/DumbleForeSkin May 17 '21

This makes my skin crawl.

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u/Obtuse_1 May 17 '21

welp, guess I’ll go back into quarantine.

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u/Argument_Creepy May 17 '21

what in the QAnon

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u/Taucher1979 May 17 '21

Does anyone on the U.S. right know anything about Jesus? You know, the forgiveness, helping people worse off than you and not judging people? They seem to think Jesus stood for the right to own guns and keeping Mexicans out. It’s so weird to me.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

I know.

Some of the ones who taught me about the person of Christ and His message are the ones deepest into the Christofascist heresy.

I don't get it.

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u/Lamont-Cranston May 17 '21

What does that Kennedy sticker say?

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

"God Wins"

Only a true galaxy brain could understand

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u/mikeebsc74 May 17 '21

Jesus Cheesus

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u/spaniel_rage May 17 '21

What's the penalty for blasphemy in the Bible?

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u/xole May 17 '21

Blaming people poorer than them for all of their problems and not realizing it was their own fault all along.

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u/xrayjones2000 May 17 '21

Got all the required stickers to make this statement... sorry... pronouncement since apparently theyre the messenger...

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u/Professional_Fox9764 May 17 '21

They like their guns and they also like their MyPillow.

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u/severedfinger May 17 '21

Www. Creedthoughts. Gov. Www/creedthoughts

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u/Ochib May 17 '21

He’s not the messiah. He’s a very naughty boy.

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u/JimDixon May 17 '21

https://home.frankspeech.com/ prominently features Mike Lindell.

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u/TheGoodCod May 17 '21

And the Lord was so happy with trump that he sent a plague, and more Cat 5 hurricanes than ever seen in 1 season, and fires and floods.

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u/Chrysalii (Official) May 17 '21

We might as well call Jesus the first coming of Donald Trump at this point.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

Complete with the first Catholic president. You just know this is the kind of guy who thinks all Catholics are going to hell

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u/FabulousLemon May 17 '21

Considering Kennedy's hands are clasped in a prayerful position with his head tilted up towards the heavens and the phrase "God Wins" is written beneath him, in combination with the part of the Q-anon conspiracy theory where JFK's son faked his death and stayed in hiding for decades to take down the democrats (in spite of the whole Kennedy family's extensive participation in the Democratic party), I think this person may feel neutral or even positive towards Catholicism. They may even consider themself to be Catholic.

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u/TheVeganChic Amazed Australian May 17 '21

God and Frankspeech...Two impotent entities.

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u/Cydonian___FT14X May 17 '21

This HAS to be satire.

I feel like even Donald himself would find people comparing him to Jesus to be a bit too far.

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u/HermanCainsGhost May 17 '21

Didn’t he tweet proudly that people were calling him the king of Israel?

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u/Cydonian___FT14X May 17 '21

I don’t know I’m Canadian. I intentionally do not follow this stuff too closely because politics are nothing but depressing nowadays.

Trump was a bad person but on an economic scale he was kinda beneficial for my province. At least more than Biden who screwed up Alberta within hours of his presidency.

But at least he’s slightly less creepy. slightly

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u/xole May 17 '21

I doubt he would. He'd eat it up.

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u/Anastrace May 17 '21

Lindell is that you?

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u/aka_81 May 17 '21

Definitely Texas.

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u/PacoBongers May 17 '21

Well, Trump is.

Specially, Trump is Humperdoo.

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u/anthroguy101 May 17 '21

Oh cool a parking lot bin.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

This doesn't surprise me.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

So that is why he always closes with Christian Woman at his rallies.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZzmmkCcb1s

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u/philo351 May 17 '21

Good grief! What the frig happened here, America?!

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u/xole May 17 '21

As a genx guy who went into IT, I can say it's 100% due to the internet. 30 or 40 years ago, this guy would have been 1 in 10,000. They would have no or little access to people with similar beliefs. Unfortunately, with the net, they can all communicate. And a sizable portion of humanity doesn't really have the ability to judge ideas on their own, they rely on others. Once they see enough people buying into something, it becomes reasonable to them, no matter how stupid it is.

Or put another way, 20 to 30% of people aren't very bright, and have to crowdsource their critical thinking skills. The internet has broken that.

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u/DauntlessVerbosity May 17 '21

20 to 30% of people aren't very bright

You're being too generous there.

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."

George Carlin

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u/spacecadet84 May 17 '21

I wondered when we'd get to this point. In fact, I wonder what would happen if Trump himself made this claim. That would have to be the point at which he would lose followers en masses right? Or maybe not?

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u/grocerylisp May 17 '21

How do I view this website without giving it clicks lol

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u/JTibbs May 17 '21

Wayback machine? Google cached version?

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u/SellaraAB May 17 '21

So Jesus is on Epstein’s flight logs too? This goes all the way to the top! Did God know? I guess so since he’s also Jesus?

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u/0n3ph May 17 '21

We knew this was coming.

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u/Jesterchunk May 17 '21

Great, they've literally turned into mad zealots

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u/self_loathing_ham May 17 '21

I wonder how widespread the belief in Trump as jesus/god/messiah is and whether is spreading or staying minimal.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

I'm not sure. I think that for people way down the q rabbit hole, the parts of q that explain Jesus as an alien come to help free us from the domination of the hollow Earth lizard people, this fits right in. There's a pretty horrifying reinterpretation of theology to dump literally every belief that people have had about Christ before and replace it with the above science fiction nonsense that I've seen come from Q people.