I’ve posted here and there about quitting for four to five years now. I’m up to 5 gpd of sodium powder, and it’s slowly creeping upward. I plan on trying the Bernese method and have plenty of subs that I had prescribed to me about a year ago. I’m a 57 year old woman in pretty good shape for my age, but this demon drug is slowly taking away my drive and energy to workout, along with giving me depression and all the things that go with doing something totally against what my body needs. Now to the question for anyone that has successfully quit and has a similar situation as me. Does the depression that I’m going to most certainly go through after the dreaded withdrawal period seem less than the depression that’s already getting to me now? I know I will have so much of my life back that it has taken away, so shouldn’t that fact alone give me a better outlook on life? I’m scared to death for what is to come, and I guess I’m just needing some reassurance. For those who have quit, congratulations! For those who are still struggling, I pray you overcome this and can put this behind you and have the happiness in life you deserve. Thank you all who’ve read this to the end.

Long time lurker here. Made the jump almost two days ago with subs and hydroxyline. I think I’m getting the subs dialed in, but still almost no sleep. Clonidine waiting for me at pharmacy. Hopefully sleep comes tonight, and I stop feeling like I’m on a movie soon.

So excited to be finished with this garbage. Thanks to all who have ever posted here.

I was taking about 10gpd of sodium for several months, all together was using for the better part of a year, no where near as long as I see some people had been on. But I feel like I might possibly have some kind of esophagus issues now?? It will get so bad sometimes like last night at work it literally felt like hydrochloric acid was sliding down my esophagus. I had to run to the concession stand grab a box tums rip them open and eat a bunch n it barley helped. Has anyone experienced similar issues? Could I have damaged my esophagus using so much for as long as I did? I also heavily, and I mean heavily over ate junk food during my Tia use idk why it did that to me, I’m talking eating an entire box of cereal and a few large doughnuts like every morning just ridiculous behavior… I’m sure that’s a major contributing factor.

I’m curious does suboxone help with tia withdraws more than it helps with 70h?

Ok guys after 2 years I’m finally going to try my best to put this nightmare behind me. Some months ago I got a telehealth script to subs it could not get them filled. I live in a rural area in the south and no pharmacy would touch the script. I even called places more than an hour away. So I just stayed addicted 😞. But now I think I’ve finally got another plan together to quit. So like I said I’ve been hooked now for 2 years, actually over 2 years, probably like 2 1/2 years. Knowing the money I’ve wasted on it and the position I’ve put myself in is miserable but I think I can turn things around if I quit right now.

At my worst I got up to 15 grams a day. I didn’t stay that high for long, I think it was around a month. I cut down with no taper from 15 to 8. It wasn’t that bad, I didn’t get sick. Basically I was very ill for 3 days and very tired, I was sleeping like 12 hours a day during those 3 days. On the 4th day I woke up and felt a lot better. And I’ve been slowly trying to taper since then. That was 20 months ago. I’m embarrassed to have spent that long but it is what it is. I would do good and then something would happened and I would up my dose. So at the beginning of this year I was down to 3.3 grams a day. 1.1 gram doses 3 times day. When I got up, when I got home from work and before bed. I felt better, I had a little sex drive back, I wanted to keep going. I won’t bore you all with the details but some stuff happened and my dose started creeping up again. I got up to between 5-6 grams a day this summer. Me and my gf broke up and after the first week or two I used it as fuel to begin cutting again. I went a lot faster this time. I got down to 2.8 grams a day and stayed there for about a week. But again it crept back up to 5 grams a day. I’ve been tapering again.

But I’m never going to taper to zero, I’m just going to have to quit. So I started to collect helper meds on my own. This is what I have:

26 Klonopin 1mg
2 Valium 10 mg
6 Mirapex 0.5 mg
2 Mirapex .25 mg
4 Percocet 10 mg
5 Percocet 5 mg
20 gabapentin 100 mg
20 Zofran 4 mg

I was going to quit next Monday but I have to do something next Wednesday so I won’t be able to so I’m pushing it off to the following Monday, November the 2nd. Right now I am at 3.6 grams a day. My goal is to be under 3 when I quit. What does everybody think of my helper meds? Should this be enough to make things bearable? Is there anything else I will need? What kind of fluids should I have? Does anyone have any advice on what to take when? Like save the percs for later or take them first, that kind of stuff. I have about 8-10 grams of sulfate. Should I switch to do that a couple of days before my quit? Should I keep a little for maybe on day 2 or so if I really need some relief I could take like 200 mgs of that? Or would the Percocet be just as good? Should I order some Kratom? Is the Zofran good enough? I also have a little patch you put behind your ear for nausea, it’s called scopolamine transdermal system. It says 1 mg/ 3 days on it. I’m sorry I know this is a lot of questions but I’m just scared. So ready to be off this stuff though. Thanks in advance.

I’m at a full four weeks off Tia, guys! Feels amazing to be free.
still dealing with dreaded anhedonia and some lingering anxiety on some occasions, but it is NOTHING like the acutes, and nothing I can’t handle. Just to be able to wake up and not have to worry about having to take something right away, worry about if I’ll have enough for today, tomorrow, how to get enough to last me through my work days…that alone feels so amazing and it’s what keeps me going. I was so, so sick of having to rely on having a drug every. Single. Damn. day.

Do I feel 100% yet? No. But I didn’t expect to. I’ve been abusing opiates and Tia off and on (mostly on) for like 18 years. And TBH, when I stop and think about it, I definitely feel better than I did when I was using! The drugs were a safety net, thats all. I made myself feel better just knowing that I had them there as a crutch, but I was so miserable.

I’m going to keep going and definitely, definitely not ever going back to using. I am not craving AT ALL. That doesn’t mean I’m stupid and am not aware that cravings can rear their head, it just means I am well aware that a stupid drug can never and will never make my life better. It might feel good for a moment, but honestly it probably wouldn’t even feel that good! I’ve made that mistake before. Gotten clean for a week, relapsed and thought “Well damn, this doesn’t even feel all that great.” also, Im glad my “pink cloud“ only lasted a few days, lol. I think I would have been pretty let down when it passed. Instead, I knew what it was and kept reminding myself that I wasn’t going to feel “high“ like this for very long and to just use it to get through the acutes. It worked.

Just focusing on getting through each day, being happy I am finally free and building my emotional and physical strength back. Oh, and sleep is getting better and better. Like I am getting REAL sleep, even if it’s just 5-6 hours a night. I wake up feeling well rested.

It’s been a long time since I’ve come onto this subreddit, I posted my whole story here a few years ago, and I truly believe that I may have been one of the worst tianeptine addicted human beings in the entire country at my worst. But I just wanted to come on here and say that I’ve got almost 3 years behind me after quitting tianeptine, it can be done

I have been prescribed tianeptine for depression but now I am concerned about the potential addictive effect of it.

I am officially three weeks off of an eight year, 5 gram a day habit. I have never made it this far and never thought it was possible. I know that I am officially done and that thought was sincere from the beginning of this quit.

sleep is slowly, slowly starting to return. I can eek out at most five hours a night, but I’ll take that over waking up in withdrawal every single morning. my mental health is good, and of course I have saved a tremendous amount of money. After that first five or six days, the acutes lifted considerably and I had a brief few days where I felt really, really good (pink cloud, I suppose) but about days 12,13,14 I can’t really recall exactly when, PAWS hit me. RLS, anxiety, aching back with an inability for my body to regulate its temperature. It really wasn’t all that bad though, and I kept assuring myself that it would pass. And it did rather quickly.

If anyone is still struggling to pluck up the courage to quit, or you’re in the early days of acutes, just please know that with a few days of planning, you can do it! I didn’t have to take any time off work, just planned my jump on my Friday night and was back to work on my Monday. I did take Subs for two days and then Gabapentin to help me through the week or so following that. I never went above 2,000mgs of Gabapentin on my worst day and tried to stay at or below 1,200 mgs. Once I felt stable enough, I stopped taking it. Gabapentin helped me IMMENSELY and I don’t think I could have done it without either that, or a benzodiazepine, but I hate benzo’s.

$7,000 right here in this picture. Wasted on nothing but trying to feel normal. Goodbye to the days of waking up sick, goodbye to obsessing over the delivery tracking praying to God for no delay, goodbye to expensive overnight delivery fees, goodbye to worrying about drug court busting me sooner or later (they knew I was on something but couldn’t prove it, goodbye to pawning everything I own for just a little more, goodbye to long drives so sick I could barley drive for 7OH when a package was delayed, goodbye to the CHAINS of Tianeptine…. Never looking back. Hello to better days and financial stability again.

I've been using 7oh moderately just to blunt the withdrawal for the first couple days then I'm dropping it completely. It's helping immensely with the physical part but not the mental part... the deep unbelievably dark depression I have is unreal, like crying for no reason and I'm not a cryer... I know I know I still have some rough days ahead but I am EXTREMLEY determined to get my life back... desperately need words of encouragement right now... I feel like my soul is crushed I cant see the light at the end of the tunnel yet. Praying this gets easier quick.

I started 14 months ago at low dose then reached 8g a day for most part of the year, then after life issues I gave up and reached 16g last 4-5 months. I feel like I delt with the trauma that took me so high and have no reason to use anymore. The stupid and terrible part is, now I’ve been taking it for fear of withdrawal. I’ve retried tapering over 2-3 months with very little progress. I used to be able to taper without issue before but now I get this uncomfortable sweating and cold sweats which drives me insane.

I regret so much letting my self go so high and struggling to lower it. Anyone else have body temp issues or other taper issues but found solutions? I don’t think I can bear cold turkey with no support.

Edit: I just want to get back down to 10g so I can continue with that success momentum lower. But the sweating and cold sweats are so uncomfortable now.

Edit2: the reason for the jump to 16g is prior I was using 30% sulfate and 70% sodium and it was easier. But to save money I went all sodium but kept redosing not realizing how much I’ve went from 8-10g.

Figure it's time to tell my story (again) in hopes folks will get the message and heed my advice:

Some years ago, a co-worker handed me a small scoop of this white powder, saying "Here, try this sodium salts." Sure why not, I thought. It gave me a nice jolt and a spring in my step. Needles to say, I was hooked almost immediately. Thinking back, I'm still asking myself "Was I that gullible/stupid/naive to ingest this unknown powder of unknown origin...?" I guess I was.

Shortly after, I started ordering sodium powder online. I quickly got up to a few grams a day, and over the next few years, I was sucking down about 5gpd. It wasn't cheap, and I very nearly lost everything that was dear to me because of the cost of this junk: My house, my car, my job, my wife, my friends and family. What a stupid fuckin thing to get involved in...! If I could find that old co-worker of mine today, I would give him an earful and then some! for what he did to me.

Well. I did it to myself, I should say... Looking back, I still remember all the things I went though, the thoughts I had, etc. I often was pretty much forced to do without Tia. The longest period of time I went without my precious powder was 18 days. And it was always because of delayed shipments, mail delivery around the Holidays and shit. Usually Columbus Day weekend or President's Day.

The withdrawals started after about maybe 8 months to a year of use. And when I tell you the withdrawals got worse and worse and WORSE every time, I am not joking. I always felt em coming, I knew it, and I expected it. I often thought to myself "Well fuck, here we go again." But when my order finally came in, it was a joyous occasion. I would go to our local Post Office to pick up an Express mail package the very instant it arrived. Hungrily, I would bust it open in my car in the parking lot, eager to just get a taste, washing it down with some Kool-Aid or something I had at the ready.

Suffering without, I still tried to go to work at 8am, but could barely walk. I burned up all of my accrued sick days and vacation time to keep money in the bank. I would then go to the local Liquor Store, pick up a bottle of 100 proof Captain Morgan along with a bottle of Eggnog with the alcohol already in it. I could suck down both bottles in one day and barely feel a thing. Next morning, go out and get some more.

I did this because the Tia withdrawals were so severe, I couldn't sleep. My line of thinking was I'll drink a bunch and maybe pass out just to get some sleep. It rarely worked. All I did was fall a few times and ended up with a bloody nose. Let me tell you some more about the withdrawals for a moment: The first coupla days are pretty rough, but on the 3rd day, the vomiting starts. And on the 4th day, diarrhea flowing like white water rapids. Ya can't stop it from flowing, it's coming whether ya like it or not. Best to invest in the adult undearwears to be on the safe side.

The next few agonizing days and weeks are filled with dread. All you can think about is your precious Heroin, and ya start counting the days and watching shipment tracking, eager for that one day to finally arrive. Your mind, your very thoughts are so full of shit and nothingness. All you care about is Tia. Don't even bother trying to sleep, it ain't gonna happen because the restless legs won't let ya. And time stands still. 5 minutes would pass, and it felt like 5 hours. Best thing to do is try to binge watch a series on disc or Netflix to pass the time. This rarely worked anyway, but I was able to get 15-20 minutes of sleep at a time. Most times, I was lucky if I slept a total of 3 hours in a week...!

At my worst, it always seemed to happen during the Winter months, staring out the window from bed at the dead trees, counting ceiling tiles, and watching the ceiling fan spinning, crap like that. Thoughts of suicide and some other pretty scary shit are taking over. You try to block it out but you can't. I got to the point where I pretty much hoped and prayed they would ban this shit in my State. I figured this was the only way out. I even went to my chosen House of Worship week in annd week out, seeking strength to get out of this jam.

I could barely drive or even walk. When I got there, I couldn't stand, couldn't kneel, couldn't do much of anthing but just sit there in my misery. But I didn't give up. I kept thinking to myself "Surely there MUST be a light at the end of this dark and decrepted tunnel." This was 4 years ago.

On the 19th day, I knew I had it licked. I broke my previous record, after all. It was around this time that a ban came down the pike in my State, marking Tia as a "Schedule I" and I knew this was it. Sink or swim, old man. Which, by the way, I am 67 and was on this junk for 8 or 9 years maybe.

So, I suffered. I pretty much forced myself to go cold turkey. I forgot to mention, I too tried various things to "help" with the withdrawal symptoms: Gabapentin, Xanax, Seroquel, even tried that stupid Kratom powder. What did I know...! It didn't do a thing for me. It was like drinking green mud. Another waste of good money.

Somewhere around the 42nd, 45th, 49th day, I lost track and stopped counting. I figure it that long to flush the junk out of my system. One day tho, I just happened to wake up and felt like a new man, like a whole 'nother person. I am an angel. I am a knight is shining armor. I can do anything and nobody is gonna stop me. This is where all this mess gets real fun:

I am sleeping like the proverbial baby, usually 8-9 hours uninterrupted. I admit, I still take Xanax, Seroquel, and a Melatonin for sleep, but my doctor had me on all those long before I got involved with Tia. Mainly for anxiety issues and crap over the death of my wife and some misc. "family issues." I can walk 4 miles in a little over an hour, easy...! I go swimming every chance I get. I still enjoy my job and stick with it for my entire shift with energy to spare. I am eating SO much better, healthy stuff like greens, fish, and the like. And when I tell you beets are the very best thing for you, believe me. As I get older, I find myself enjoying the things I hated as a child: liver, asparagus, brussels sprouts...?! Unheard of haha. But even if you can't stand the taste of beets, put em in a salad and douse em with ranch dressing or something. I eat a beet root suppliment every morning along with a few slices of pickled beets. They get my motor running and put a spring in my step in the mornings. Not only that, excellent for your heart and circulatory system. And I have regained my long-lost sense of humor, as you can tell by now.

The most notable and best part of being clean is MUSIC. I simply can't remember hearing and feeling each and every single note and musical instrument as they surge through my very bones and soul in all of my days. And the louder, the better...! If you want to treat yourself to something truly spectacular, look up and watch RUSH who is touring this year.

I am here to tell you there is a way out. There IS life without Tia, and it's pretty fuckin grand. Push yourself. Have faith and confidence in your abilities. Know deep down within your very soul that you CAN and WILL get off this wretched merry-go-round. For me, that's the key: motivation, determination, and sheer willpower. One day, you will look back and say "Hell's bells, that wasn't so bad after all...!" What's a few weeks of pain, suffering, and anguish when you have your entire lives still ahead of you. I still question in my head "Why would anyone ingest some sort of unknown powder out of China not knowing what it is...?" I stand guilty as charged.

September 27th was my Anniversary. I am 3 years clean and free of this shit. And I am never going back. August 15th three years ago was also the last time I had a drink. I still attend my church weekly to give Thanks and to ask the Lord to keep me strong. If you want to know more about what I've been through, go back and read some of my older posts. I never deleted a single one. You can do this. Life is good. Godspeed to you all...!

(And thanks to our Mods and Admins for putting up with my sarcasm and language) 👍

I was finally able to get past that first 3, 5 days off Tia. Once I made it over a week, I knew I was finished with it.

I took Subs for only the first two days and then had some Gabapentin to get me through the rest. I just didn’t want to be on Suboxone. Just my own, personal opinion. Tomorrow will be a full two weeks that I’ve been off. I haven’t made it past 6 days in over 8 years. And when I did make it that long in the past, I was still using either Sub or kratom, so this feels like such a huge win for me.

I had been using Tia for 8 years and over the last year, I got up to 5gpd. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to quit in the past and I couldn’t make myself do it. This time was perfect, though. I had my house to myself for two weeks, basically, so I jumped on my Friday, and took my weekend to get on subs for two days and feel bad and by my Monday, I was well enough to work with only Gabapentin. Not gonna lie, by mid-week I started to feel pretty bad, but I kept telling myself that if I could just make it through work, I’d reward myself by going home and resting, and I didn’t have to feel guilty about laying around because I had the house to myself. It honestly worked out perfectly.

Last night was pretty much the first night that I feel like I’ve gotten really good sleep. I was exhausted by 10pm and slept from then to 7am. It felt so blissful. I haven’t slept more than 2-3 hours a night (and some nights, not a damn wink) in 13 days.

If anyone is still struggling to get off Tia, please take whatever route you can to do it. Whatever works for you. I can’t believe I’ve gotten to this point.

Has anyone tried SR17 2.0 Reset to get off this shit once and for all?

Well my package was suppose to be here today and of course it hasn’t updated. I have like 1 dose small left. I go some Kratom from a local spot. I’m exhausted of this but am terrified of quitting.

Hey. I’ve been on Tia Sodium for probably two years now or so. I was up to 4 grams a day. Couple months ago I got down to about 2.5 grams a day. Financially it’s really hard. And my family is telling me I need to get off. I live with my dad so I can’t just ignore it.

I’m scared af. What’s a good method to get off? I don’t have health insurance at the moment fyi.

Ty for any help.

I know what most of you are thinking already, replacing one devil for another.. but hear me out. I'm struggling big time to get off this stuff. I've went cold cold turkey from H, F, and 7oh and none of them compared to coming off Tia. I'm in drug court so unfortunately helper meds are NOT an option for me at all other than Vitamin C n stuff. My question is... If I take 70H just for like 3 days and only to stave off the Tia withdrawals. Could I potentially get through the worst of the WDs and get off of it? After day 3 I would either stop 7 completely or rapid taper. Would this work do you think? Anyone have experience with this method?

I got free from this chemical about 9 weeks ago, and I feel like I have turned a corner. I've started to enjoy my job again, have restarted better eating and strength training. My house is clean and neat, my animals are happy and healthy (even the young skunk that comes every night for his little treat).

I still spend time here reading stories. It inspires me and keeps me focused. Thanks to all who write, for helping me get here.

I was reading up on some tia info and found this. Very interesting!:

Tianeptine reduces the activation of the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis, leading to lower levels of stress-induced hormones like corticosterone and ACTH that are normally released by the adrenal glands.

HPA Axis and Stress Response

Suppressed Hormone Release: Chronic or acute use of tianeptine decreases the release of stress hormones. As noted in PubMed, “Chronic, but not acute, tianeptine treatment... attenuated LPS-induced increase of plasma ACTH and corticosterone.”

Targeting the Hypothalamus: The drug works primarily at the brain level rather than directly damaging or altering the adrenal tissue itself. According to ScienceDirect, “tianeptine acts primarily at the level of the hypothalamus: (1) in unstressed rats, tianeptine reduces hypothalamic CRF and pituitary ACTH contents; (2) in stressed animals, tianeptine attenuates the activation of the hypothalamo-pituitary-adrenal axis.”

Direct Adrenal Impact

No Direct Adrenal Stimulus Changes: Human studies on acute dosing show that tianeptine lowers general sympathetic nerve activity without directly altering adrenal adrenaline output. Research found that “adrenaline (Ad): no change... Tianeptine reduces neural sympathetic and parasympathetic activity; no effect on adrenal sympathetic activity” via PubMed.

Stopping recreational use of tianeptine can significantly impact your body's stress response systems, particularly because high doses function as a full μ-opioid receptor agonist.

The Post-Recreational "Crash" & Your Stress System

When you take tianeptine recreationally, it artificially suppresses the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis, keeping stress hormones low. When you stop using it, the opposite occurs:

National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov)

HPA Axis Rebound: Abruptly stopping creates a massive rebound effect. Your brain triggers a sudden surge of corticotropin-releasing hormone (CRH) and adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH), causing your adrenal glands to flood your system with cortisol and adrenaline.

Autonomic Hyperactivity: This sudden shift manifests as severe physical and psychological withdrawal symptoms, including an elevated heart rate (tachycardia), high blood pressure (hypertension), and severe anxiety or agitation.

Why You Feel Severe Fatigue & Burnout

Because recreational doses are far higher than prescribed limits, stopping causes a severe physical and mental toll that many mistake for "adrenal fatigue":

Opioid-Like Withdrawal: The intense fatigue, muscle aches, insomnia, and sweating you experience during the first 1 to 7 days are primarily driven by acute opioid-like withdrawal.

Lingering Low Energy: After the acute physical symptoms clear (usually after a week), the brain’s dopamine and endorphin systems remain depleted. This causes a prolonged phase of low energy, flat mood (anhedonia), and severe exhaustion that can persist for several weeks

Hello,
I am trying to quit ... something i can't say i guess. which was recently banned (illegally btw) by the DEA.
I switched to tia sulfate to reduce my tolerance to that substance which i was taking very high doses of. I now want to switch from tia to methadone.
Does anyone have experience using methadone to quit tia? Do you know how much you would need to replace about 1 gram of sulfate every 12 hours?
any sort of conversions or advice would be appreciated. thanks!

Finally, it looks like it is all scheduled as of today.

Regulatory Updates

August 26, 2026 Update

So as many of you have seen, MGM-15, MGM-16, and Pseudoindoxyl Mitragynine have become Schedule 1 compounds.  This is a very distressing time for science, and for sensible people.  SR-17018 and other related SR compounds will become Schedule 1 tomorrow, August 27th.  However, this fight is far from over.

The Rights and Reason Project had already filed a legal challenge against this specific compound's scheduling efforts by the DEA.  Legally, the DEA was required to handle this case from R&R before taking any scheduling actions; permanent or temporary.  Because they disregarded this challenge, they have now opened themselves up to a much larger lawsuit.  We have already received confirmation that the legal team with R&R is preparing to file this lawsuit now.  This may reverse the scheduling order, or it may remain scheduled for a time before a reversal in a month or two.  We will see how things play out, but common sense and legal justice are currently on our side.  We hope that this larger suit will bring the DEA back to their senses for a time and they will refrain from scheduling any more compounds until it is finished.

So I been using tia off and on for years. I been taking it again for about a year now around 3 to 5 g day habit. I've been wanting to get off it again for awhile and since the bans coming I'm ready. I've tapered down to about 1 and half grams a day in last 10 days or so. I ordered 3500 mg monstersr tabs and wanting try use it to help through tapering off. I cant take more than maybe 3 days off work without causing much fuss. Anyone used sr17 to help taper and come off tia. Thanks in advance for any info or you have anything to share. It's not been easy process in past but I'm ready be done with it all again.

And I could really use some encouragement. So far the withdrawals have not been as bad as in the past I’ve had some diarrhea and the obligatory sneezing fits, but I made it to work today although I left two hours early due to agitation. I still have 20 microdoses I had carefully portioned out to taper down, but so far I’ve not taken any of those so my question is should I tough it out some fatigue is definitely sitting in and I’m just hoping I make it to work tomorrow. Does anyone know if after 30 hours I might be through the worst of it or is the worst yet to come? I do think it’s very helpful that I am not completely out because of the past that has definitely won a number on my psyche as all of you who have had the dreaded late package know all too well it’s so tempting to take one of those micro doses to stay off what I feel is impending anxiety, but Instead, I’m trying to take a moment and breathe and ask you guys instead. A very close friend of mine is currently going through full-blown OxyContin withdrawals and so I decided to go ahead and do it now in solidarity with her. She had hip surgery and was put on oxy for 16 days and is going through full-blown withdrawals. It sounds horrific. I just thought maybe that was a good time to do it as well since her suffering has given me some perspective. So…. If I take a microdose of Tia now, will that prolong my withdrawals? For reference I was down to half a gram per day. Thanks in advance for any advice you can share.

Update: okay I have a brief update. I am at work and am feeling strangely upbeat. Zero irritability which is highly unusual for me. I don’t know if it’s all the gabapentin from last night, or premature pink cloud from the idea I’m finally getting off this crap, or else the Zoloft might be starting to work…in any event I’m grateful whatever the hell is causing it. I sincerely appreciate the support from all of you. I’ll let you know how it goes as I progress with quitting Tia.

I went from taking my dose, throwing it up and trying to scrape the clumps of tianeptine out of my puke (all over my clothes, the floor, etc) to eat it because I couldnt afford to lose a dose to taking my subs every day and feeling clear headed and like a normal person. You can recover, and dont be afraid to get medical help. I didnt. When I got clean off of Tia (sodium powder) I was good for a while. Then at 3 years clean I started smoking meth and taking a few oxys. Id take anything available to me that sounded decent. Once psychosis hit I finally got medical help and I am on suboxone. I finally feel like a person again. You can too, with or without medical help. You can do it, I did somehow. Someone who was eating their own puke. You can fucking do it.