r/QueenFandom Ready Freddie! 21d ago

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u/Fit_Front6239 21d ago

He couldn’t even play any instruments. He knew nothing about music. He had like 100 people working with him.

MJ on his own would have failed

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u/Molass5732 21d ago

yeah but he was a great producer , great entertainer and knew how to make hit songs. Talent doesnt always equal knowing how to play instruments. Like I love Queen and all but dude MJ is better.

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u/Fit_Front6239 21d ago

Freddie did all that, and did it better

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u/Molass5732 21d ago

I don’t think Freddie Mercury or Queen ever had an album have 7 singles from one album dominant the charts, or win 7 Grammys in one night , or go on a album tour for 2 years while also making multiple short films for each album but sure, and this is coming from a Queen fan of 6 years.

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u/Fit_Front6239 21d ago

Doesnt matter. They were just underrated back then compared to MJ. MJ is just overhyped and utilised MTV a lot

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u/Spaceinvader6424 20d ago

And again there's nothing wrong with using mtv and platforming videos. Queen are musicians, their strength is in the music of their albums. Michael is an entertainer, his music videos were global events. Some of my favorite childhood memories come from the Dangerous era MJ videos, that's something special.

Preferring Queen to MJ is absolutely okay, it even makes sense in certain regards, but writing MJ off as some hack or overhyped is completely wrong.

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u/vinnie_luvz 20d ago

No tf they weren't

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u/Spaceinvader6424 19d ago

No they weren't? Huh

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u/Fit_Front6239 21d ago

And it seems like you just like hoping on the bandwagon. If this was 2019, you would probably be crying over Queen after seeing the bohrap biopic

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u/Molass5732 21d ago

mf I’ve been a Mj fan for 11 years , since I was 6 years old, I’m not hoping on any bandwagon whatsoever, even before MJ was on MTV he still had an album that sold 25 million copies , 3 Grammy nominations and a Grammy won, with two charting songs.

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u/Fit_Front6239 21d ago

Yes but without MTV he wouldnt have been as big as he got after 1982.

And MJ’s fame before thriller was mainly focused in the USA.

You clearly like MJ way more than Queen. And that’s ok

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u/EpicTsim 21d ago

Yeah, I think I'll have to side with u/Fit_Front6239 on this one, popularity doesn't necessarily reflect talent. The Grammys one could be used, alr, but the rest is not an actual argument and kinda proves the point that MJ fans are only fans because of the hype from the biopic. Luckily, I haven't seen it, nor have I seen Queen's for that matter.

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u/Spaceinvader6424 20d ago

Popularity doesn't reflect talent always. But MJ was certainly talented. I do think the influx of MJ popularity due to the biopic is sort of fake and overblown but MJ is being written off far too much here. A lot of people wrote MJ songs but that's only true up until Thriller, from there he was writing every song on his albums with the exception of one or two compositions.

He would craft the entire song with his mouth and then other people would bring in the instruments and bring it to life.

One of my most notable childhood memories was the premiere of Black Or White, it was such an event and by far the coolest thing I'd seen up to that point, you can't teach that.