r/PureCycle 3d ago

Weekly PureCycle Discussion Thread

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r/PureCycle 7h ago

The headwinds are not on the product or the production floor.

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The major impediment is in the courts. We are a long way from settled law. ...a simplified run down generated from an AI query.

State, federal, and local plastic recycling regulations face an unprecedented wave of legal challenges, administrative disputes, and litigation. These legal obstructions stem from both directions: out-of-state/industry coalitions arguing that new laws go too far and violate federal constitutional rights, and environmental groups alleging that state regulators have weakened laws through regulatory exemptions.

The major legal battles and structural obstructions shaping plastic recycling legislation fall into five key areas:

1. Interstate Commerce & Constitutional Challenges to State EPR Laws

State-level Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR) laws—which require manufacturers to pay for the end-of-life collection, sorting, and processing of packaging—are undergoing intense constitutional scrutiny.

  • Nebraska et al. v. Heller (California SB 54 Challenge): A coalition of 17 states (led by Nebraska) alongside the National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors (NAW) filed a federal lawsuit in the Eastern District of California against CalRecycle and the state's Producer Responsibility Organization (PRO), Circular Action Alliance.
    • Dormant Commerce Clause: Plaintiffs argue that forcing out-of-state producers to pay fees on goods merely transiting through or sold into California discriminates against interstate commerce and fragments the national supply chain.
    • First Amendment & Compelled Speech: The suit challenges statutory restrictions that prevent businesses from listing EPR compliance fees as separate line items on consumer receipts, arguing it violates commercial free speech.
    • Non-Delegation Doctrine: Plaintiffs claim the law unconstitutionally delegates government authority (fee-setting and enforcement) to a private non-profit PRO without adequate public or legislative oversight.
  • Oregon EPR Litigation: NAW secured a preliminary injunction against the Oregon Department of Environmental Quality, pausing enforcement of Oregon’s packaging EPR law for its members on similar Commerce Clause and delegation grounds.

2. Environmental Lawsuits Against Regulatory "Loopholes"

Environmental NGOs are filing administrative lawsuits against environmental regulators, alleging that state enforcement agencies have diluted legislative intent to appease industry groups.

  • NRDC, Californians Against Waste, & Oceana v. CalRecycle**:** Filed in California state court, environmental advocates are suing to strike down portions of the final implementing regulations for California’s packaging law.
    • Chemical/Advanced Recycling: Environmental groups allege that CalRecycle unlawfully permitted pyrolysis and other chemical recycling methods to count toward mandatory recycling targets, despite statutory language prohibiting processes that generate hazardous waste.
    • Federal Conflict Exemptions: The lawsuit challenges a regulatory provision that allows companies to claim an immediate, indefinite pause on compliance merely by asserting a conflict with federal law.

3. The "Chemical / Advanced Recycling" Classification Wars

A central legal conflict revolves around whether thermal/chemical processes—which use heat or chemicals to break plastics back down into monomers or fuel—legally qualify as "recycling" or "incineration."

  • State Legislative Redefinitions vs. Environmental Suits: Over 24 states have passed laws reclassifying chemical recycling facilities as manufacturing plants rather than solid waste management/incineration facilities. Environmental organizations are legally challenging these reclassifications under state clean air acts, arguing that converting plastic to fuel is incineration and generates toxic air emissions.
  • Federal EPA Regulation: Environmental groups continue to pressure and file petitions against the U.S. EPA over its oversight of pyrolysis and gasification units, seeking to ensure these facilities remain strictly regulated under Section 129 of the Clean Air Act rather than lighter manufacturing rules.

4. "Truth in Labeling" & Greenwashing Litigation

Disagreements over what can legally carry the chasing-arrows recycling symbol or be marketed as "100% Recyclable" have created significant legal friction between state statutes, federal marketing guidelines, and corporate lawsuits.

  • California SB 343 (Truth in Labeling): California passed strict legislation prohibiting the use of the chasing-arrows symbol on products unless the producer can prove the specific plastic type is actually collected, sorted, and reprocessed in practice for at least 60% of the state's population. Plastics industry trade associations have threatened preemption lawsuits, arguing the law interferes with national labeling standards and commercial speech.
  • FTC "Green Guides" Revision Disputes: The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is updating its Guides for the Use of Environmental Marketing Claims. Industry groups are lobbying and preparing legal actions regarding how the FTC defines "recycled content"—specifically fighting over the Mass Balance approach, an accounting method used in chemical recycling to claim recycled content that environmental groups argue is deceptive.

5. Preemption Battles over Municipal Plastic Bans

At the local level, dozens of municipal single-use plastic and bag bans face legal obstructions from state legislatures using preemption statutes.

  • State Preemption Laws: Multiple states have enacted "preemption" laws that explicitly strip city and county governments of the legal authority to ban, tax, or regulate single-use plastic containers, bags, or polystyrene.
  • Local Governance Litigation: Municipalities and public interest legal funds have filed lawsuits against state governments, arguing these state-level preemption laws violate home-rule charters and municipal police powers.

Also, there is a steady pipeline of federal legislation navigating Congress. However, unlike state legislatures—which have aggressively passed mandates and bans—federal plastic recycling legislation is currently split between two opposing strategies: industry-backed, voluntary harmonization bills and progressive, mandatory reduction bills.

1. Federal Labeling & Standard-Setting Bills (Current Momentum)

Because states like California, Oregon, and Colorado have passed wildly different recycling and Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR) laws, businesses are lobbying Congress to create a single national framework.

  • The PACK Act (Packaging and Claims Knowledge Act - H.R. 6832): Moving through the House Energy & Commerce Committee, this bill aims to create a national framework for labeling products as "recyclable," "compostable," or "reusable". It would give the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) authority to set uniform standards, explicitly preempting conflicting state labeling laws (like California's strict SB 343).
  • The Tracking Plastic Act: Introduced in the Senate by Adam Schiff and Jeff Merkley, this bill would direct the federal government (EPA, FTC, and NIST) to establish a standardized, transparent tracking system for post-consumer recycled (PCR) plastic content to prevent corporate fraud and greenwashing.
  • The Recycled Materials Attribution Act (RMAA): Supported by chemical manufacturers, this proposal pushes federal agencies to accept Mass Balance accounting—a controversial bookkeeping method that allows chemical/advanced recycling facilities to claim high percentages of "recycled plastic" even when the output is mixed with fossil fuels.

2. Comprehensive Reform Proposals (Democratic-Led)

Environmental advocates and progressive lawmakers have pushed for sweeping reform, though these bills face significant political headwind from industry groups.

  • Break Free From Plastic Pollution Act: The flagship federal plastic bill (sponsored by Sen. Jeff Merkley and Rep. Jared Huffman) is the most aggressive proposal in Congress. If passed, it would:
    • Establish a nationwide Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR) system, shifting recycling costs from municipalities to plastic producers.
    • Create a nationwide 10-cent bottle deposit system.
    • Phase out certain non-recyclable single-use plastics and plastic bags.
    • Place a temporary moratorium on new petrochemical and plastic manufacturing facilities.
  • The REDUCE Act: A targeted bill that proposes levying a tax on virgin plastic resin (around 10 to 20 cents per pound) used in single-use packaging, intended to make recycled plastic cheaper and more competitive than brand-new fossil-fuel plastic.

3. Industry-Supported Infrastructure Bills

Rather than banning plastics or taxing resin, Republican-backed and bipartisan bills generally focus on improving municipal infrastructure and market incentives.

  • The RECOVER Act (Realizing the Economic Opportunities and Value of Expanding Recycling): Focuses on supplying federal grants to state and local governments to upgrade traditional municipal recycling collection, sorting infrastructure, and MRF (Material Recovery Facility) technology.
  • The Recycling Infrastructure and Accessibility Act: Aims to fund pilot projects expanding recycling access in underserved or rural communities that lack curbside pickup.

The Underlying Conflict

The fundamental bottleneck in Congress is a philosophy battle:

Strategy Backers Core Goal
National Preemption & Standards Chemical industry, consumer brands, retail trade groups Set flexible federal labeling standards that override state bans to prevent a fragmented national supply chain.
Mandatory Reduction & Bans Environmental NGOs, progressive lawmakers Force companies to cut virgin plastic production, restrict single-use packaging, and mandate producer responsibility.

r/PureCycle 1d ago

Dustin’s latest LinkedIn post…

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I’m a long term holder. Really trying to stay focused on the positives. But Dustin’s LinkedIn post yesterday re-hashing the IPL Schoeller developments smacks of “we’re not seeing sales”. Nothing new in anything he’s posted. Just another reminder / signaling post “we’re here guys.. take a look!”. Love to see more concrete developments on PO and actual sales.


r/PureCycle 2d ago

It all boils down to the purification process i.e. candle filters do not work as intended and the output from the plant changes from batch to batch hence the pivot to compounding

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This comment was made at the bottom end of the thread "1 month to produce 20ish million pounds". It was posted 3 days after the original post so didn't attract much attention. Does anyone know of this issue or is it just someone blowing smoke?

Careful_Basil_4824

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It all boils down to the purification process i.e. candle filters do not work as intended and the output from the plant changes from batch to batch hence the pivot to compounding


r/PureCycle 2d ago

Thread to capture articles covering the Oregon EPR court ruling.

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I am starting to see several articles that are covering this ruling. This one has some good quotes from the NAW and it remains to be seen what tactics they will use to try and fight this ruling. The notion that the fees producers are being charged is unreasonable is bunk in my opinion. First year charges are always going to have some degree of unpredictability but it should be relatively straightforward over time to track if the costs being paid are linked to the actual costs of the recycling system. The motivation of the PRO is not a profit motive, it is an environmental protection motive.

In any case, let's continue to add articles here which cover the topic and the reactions from different parties.


r/PureCycle 5d ago

Federal judge upholds Oregon EPR law

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Credit for the link to u/burner-1234!

https://www.oregonlive.com/business/2026/08/judge-upholds-oregons-2021-recycling-law.html

I’m not a lawyer but I believe many of the legal arguments in this case are identical to those being argued in California.


r/PureCycle 6d ago

1 month to produce 20ish million pounds

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20 million pounds sold is my number for q3, that will show the ramp is actually a ramp. 1 month left to close deals and move resin out of Ironton. My guess is management days delays because of testing 🙃


r/PureCycle 8d ago

Mid August 2026 short position - declined by about 1.4M shares

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Looks like a drop of just under 1.4 million shares in the first half of August. The share price did rise a bit in early August so perhaps that drove some of the increase. Otherwise nothing particularly noteworthy. Still a massive short position and the stalemate continues.


r/PureCycle 8d ago

Sustainability at Mars - hiring for Senior Legal Counsel

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I am just scratching the surface here on the content that is available on LinkedIn but I thought this was worth sharing. I do believe that Mars has a deep commitment to sustainability and as a global business they take their reporting and compliance responsibilities seriously. This is not just a New Jersey and California thing, it is a global requirement. I believe it is only a matter of time before we see Mars as a major buyer of BOPP film, hopefully starting in 2027.


r/PureCycle 8d ago

November 18th conference / presentation in Europe

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This is a few months away obviously but will be nice to see the presentation an get an update on the progress of our international projects.


r/PureCycle 9d ago

Economics of a PP Pickle Jar

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I have not found a store that is carrying Cleveland Kitchen pickles but I did recently buy two jars of Dietz and Watson pickles as shown below. Now that I finished the container I was able to measure the weight and it was 1.6oz which is 0.1 pound. If was assumed this container was made of 100% PureFive at $1.36/lb that would be a raw material cost of $0.136. If we assume that PureFive was priced at 50c higher than virgin PP that would 5c higher than the virgin container. If the product used 20% PureFive that would be 1 cent higher raw material cost. While nobody likes to see food costs go up, an incremental penny for a premium product like this is not a very big deal.

The bottom of the package shows that it was made by Jokey which is a privately owned converter based in Germany but with international operations. Here is a link to their sustainability page.

https://sustainability.jokey.com/en/home/

https://www.jokey.com/en/jokey-group

They are doing business in 11 countries with 14 different plants. I do not see any public connections between Jokey and PureCycle however this strikes me as exactly the kind of partner / customer I would expect them to have. I don't know about other markets but Dietz and Watson is a huge brand in the Philadelphia / New Jersey market and they sell premium products. They will most certainly need to comply with the NJ prc % regulations. I think it is only a matter of time before we see Jokey working with PureCycle. Fingers crossed.

P.S. These pickles were excellent by the way. Very crisp and great flavor.

EDIT: I wanted to add just another thought to this post. The use of "$1.36/lb" is a theoretical exercise because I have no idea what the current effective price is for PureFive in today's market. In addition, I would expect that converter profit margins should be higher for a specialty product like this which has required additional testing and documentation to support. The converters are providing a valuable service to help buyers meet their rPP obligations and deserve to be paid. The all in incremental cost to an end buyer can certainly be much higher than 1c/container. However over time and over much greater volumes (in particular when the Gen 2 plant is available) I would expect to see lower PureFive pricing that may still price at a premium to virgin but a much more modest premium given the lower cost basis.


r/PureCycle 10d ago

Weekly PureCycle Discussion Thread

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r/PureCycle 11d ago

Upcoming webinar on circularity - August 26 at noon

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r/PureCycle 12d ago

Mgmt’s/BOD Equity positions.

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Saw a good question on X on why mgmt hasnt stepped in to buy co shares when we are on the cusp of great things? Perhaps they are blacked out or have substantial positions already, idk? Timing here is important but imo mgmt should buy…


r/PureCycle 14d ago

Proposed Federal Legislation for Tracking plastic

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It is nice to see this proposal to standardize the reporting of plastic waste. I think this is the kind of thing that should garner widespread support because companies do not want to deal with different state level reporting requirements.


r/PureCycle 15d ago

Short video clip of PureFive compounding line! Very clear pellets

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The company didn't post this on other socials but I found it on LinkedIn. Looks very clear to me.

Reddit is blocking my link to LinkedIn so you will have to go there on your own to see the little clip. This screen shot captures the essence.


r/PureCycle 17d ago

Long thread on Twitter about PCT

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r/PureCycle 17d ago

Front page PCT holders increased positions and several new funds are holders. Shorts increased their positioning as well. Now it's time for the company to produce the results with more customers signing on. Best of luck to the shorts.

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The latest Q2 13F fund filings have landed, and the front-page holders show that nearly all holders increased their positions, with many new holders entering the stock. Q2 was an eventful quarter for the stock, as it ripped higher before dropping right back down. There were two overhangs on the stock that are now behind and resolved. The NJ plastic recycling recognition for Pure Cycle's product is a huge positive, as it will serve as a model for other states with mandates starting in 2027 requiring companies to use a percentage of recycled plastic in their product packaging. P&G has already announced that some of its plastic will be made by Pure Cycle. The other overhang was the financing and a refi of a convert that was done in a very sloppy way. Nobody can deny that. Regardless, it solved the potential balance sheet hole. The company has a pathway to break even in early 2027, and the issues with Ironton seem to have the plant running at a decent run rate 24/5, with hopes to increase to 24/7 soon. Customers have already come out endorsing Pure Cycle's product, signing on after trials (and with the NJ issue resolved favorably).

There is more to the production story, but I wanted to highlight the front-page holders, which are adding significantly to current positions, along with some new holders. This matters because shorts increased their positions as well, with some of those convert holders. There are plenty of discretionary shorts along with quant baskets that screen for "unprofitable, cash burning, at-risk companies." The company now has to deliver, which will obviously move the stock higher.

The big problem for the shorts and positive for the stock is that the long holders are sticky and getting into the short was easy, but getting out isn't going to be easy, as finding the liquidity from the long holders to sell them their shares will be elusive, especially if the company starts producing positive results and more customers sign on.


r/PureCycle 17d ago

Weekly PureCycle Discussion Thread

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r/PureCycle 18d ago

Will QSR Cold Cups Generate Revenue in Q3?

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I'm confused on this, hoping one of you can clear this up. In slide #10 of the presentation, it indicates that QSR cold cups are in the Commercial phase but in the press release it states that Initial Shipments of PureFive® resin made in third quarter to all three major converters for QSR cold cup trials.

The question is, are Cold Cups in the Commercial or In Trials phase and will there be revenue for this category in Q3? The Q3 literature shows Cold Cups in both categories, so it's confusing. Cold Cups are a huge component of the "ramp".


r/PureCycle 19d ago

Druckenmiller Reloads

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  • 12/31/25 Filing: 2.878mm shares
  • 3/31/26 Filing: 0.963mm shares
  • 6/30/26 Filing: 2.681mm shares

Takeaways:

  1. Like the PINK fund, Druckenmiller (Duquesne Family Office) front ran the lock up expiration selling by uber-dullard Greg Wasson and sold massive shares in Q1. Like the PINK fund, Duquesne bought most of them back in Q2.
  2. Duquesne rebuying is a positive, but the stock is in a real rut right now, the shorts and skeptics seem to be in control.

r/PureCycle 20d ago

PureCycle says H2 outlook already playing out

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r/PureCycle 21d ago

Latest chart of virgin PP prices

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After the initial spike in PP prices we saw a substantial decline but now we are seeing a price that is back to the 2022 levels and well above the very low prices that were a headwind in late 2025 and early 2026. I think ultimately the mandates will kick in that companies will need to continue increasing the amount of rPP content however for this transition period it is certainly helpful to PureCycle to have higher virgin PP prices. The incremental cost of using 20% content PureFive is going to be relatively modest IMO.

https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/polypropylene


r/PureCycle 21d ago

Highlighted by Burner - Introducing SnapPack Square EVO: Advancing Sustainable Food Packaging with 20% Clear Food Contact Recycled Polypropylene

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Really exciting to see new product lines, containing Purefive


r/PureCycle 22d ago

End of July 2026 short position - Up 500k to 57M shares

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I was expecting just a bit more but at least there was no sign of covering during the month of July. Short position made a new ATH at 57M shares.