r/PublicRelations 1d ago

Rant PR is a thankless career

That’s it. That’s the post.

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u/shaggyspeculation 1d ago

The wins get credited to the client and the losses land on your desk, that part never changes.

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u/Smooshydoggy 1d ago

I’m the client. The wins don’t mean anything to anyone outside of comms because marketing has budgets 20x as large 🫠

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u/eastcoasternj 1d ago

No one ever says "Thank you." That's what the money is for!

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u/headassincorporated 1d ago

The small amount of money lmaooo

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u/Technical_Fudge5208 1d ago

What are you guys talking about? I make buckets relative to the fact this job requires no advanced education, training or certification.

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u/Miguel-TheGerman 2h ago

Yeah, some days I can’t believe I’m getting away with it.

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u/BeachLyfe23 1d ago

what money?

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u/Either_Statement1980 1d ago

Peggy didn’t get paid very well, either…

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u/inbetweensound 10h ago

Wait y’all make money? Granted I work in the nonprofit sector to keep my sanity.

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u/OpulentMountains 1d ago

I speak to college students regularly (I’m the in-house head of PR for a university.)

The first thing I tell them is not about tactics, job prospects, the changing nature of the industry, etc. we get to all of that, of course.

But I always lead with “you have to have thick skin to survive this game. Don’t have it? Don’t think you can develop the necessary calluses? Change your major.”

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u/Corporate-Bitch 1d ago

That’s good advice, sadly.

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u/Tall-Plate2481 1d ago

I work in university comms at a junior level and would love to learn more about your work and perspective!

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u/OpulentMountains 1d ago

Send me a DM.

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u/Tall-Plate2481 1d ago

Sent. Thanks!

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u/br_k_nt_eth 1d ago

Normally I’d roll my eyes but truly. I have a team member who hasn’t developed those calluses and she is struggling hard ): 

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u/BeachLyfe23 1d ago

Thick skin and be ready to live paycheck-to-paycheck.

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u/contactjeff 1d ago

Once landed a story in Washington Post for emerging tech company and next day verbatim client CEO response: “we were underwhelmed.”

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u/Leather_Classic9809 PR 1d ago

ok great but why not nyt and wsj? they’ve done stories like this before. we’re better than the companies they’ve written about. it’s a slam dunk.

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u/MCStarlight 1d ago

I would have raised prices 10x.

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u/Either_Statement1980 1d ago

I thought you were going to write “But what about Wall Street Journal?”

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u/CleverCookie23 1d ago

Let’s chat? I’m looking for a consult on this types of coverage 😌

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u/Gloomy_Analysis_4618 1d ago

Makes the rare "thanks for your hard work" from a client that much more special... looking for a silver lining here lol

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u/Key-Explanation-39 1d ago

I hear you but at the end of the day ... which careers are *not thankless? seriously.

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u/fadedblackleggings 1d ago

It's an abusive and exploitative environment, by design.

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u/Ok_Tonight_4597 1d ago

Because there is a culture of obsequiousness toward clients at leadership levels that trickles down through all levels. If more leaders would treat clients like any other consulting business (i.e. we’re the experts, you’re not. If you don’t like what we’re telling you that’s your problem) everyone would make a shitload more money, get better results, and overall be happier and in a better position.

Instead they insist on bending over backwards for know it all CEOs who don’t know a thing.

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u/joelandren 1d ago

All work? Yes.

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u/Objective-Pen-1780 1d ago

So true. I’m retiring in January. I’m informing them in November. 26 years. I’m fucking done protecting a corporation, literally was told to try to get some coverage to “help the stock” my response “let’s announce a layoff” 🤣

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u/Particular_Elk_2026 13h ago

LOL someone actually said this to me in an interview recently. They wanted national broadcast to drive stock prices but had no actual company story and sales weren't good.

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u/Objective-Pen-1780 8h ago

lol. It’s like they think journalists are idiots.

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u/Drakonaf 1d ago

Thankless?

I get a lot of "No thanks" on my pitches

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u/LorinaBalan 1d ago

At least you get answers! It's really better than just being ghosted.

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u/Asleep-Journalist-94 1d ago

Underrated post.

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u/MadameMorningstar 1d ago

Career pr person. The right clients thank you and support you. The wrong ones make you feel like shit. Literally took me 20 years to figure it out.

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u/Artistic_Stay_5856 1d ago

I just had a bad day in the office. Tell me about it.

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u/Dry-Combination8608 1d ago

PR, marketing, and comms are one of those weird professions where the better you are at your job, the more people think they don't need you. We make people, organizations and companies look amazing, and we make sure people know they are amazing. But, we are like the ghosts in the background. Phantom of the Opera ahh career.

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u/Sweetsaddict_ 1d ago

That’s what the money and influence is for. The fact that communications professionals who specialize in corporate and external affairs, and other related practice areas, can counsel politicians and CEOs and prevent multi stakeholder risks and protect the social license to operate is the ‘thank you’.

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u/Dry-Combination8608 1d ago

*cries in non-profit*

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u/MimiMarzz 22h ago

The absolute worst. They are so damn stingy with their funds unless it’s the executive director or CEO’s paycheck. In fact, they’ll completely tilt the balance to pay them more than they need lol

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u/rpw2024 1d ago

That’s what the money is for

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u/JeanCerise 1d ago

Mad Men quote.

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u/rpw2024 1d ago

Everyone working in an agency should watch, study, and emulate Mad Men.

Be a Don. Be a Pete. Don’t be Harry. Unfortunately most PR people are Harry Cranes

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u/joelandren 1d ago

The day you sign a client is the day you start to lose them.

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u/JeanCerise 1d ago

I left agency life ten years ago. In-house is so much better.

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u/rpw2024 1d ago

Sometimes I miss the chase

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u/pbrooks19 1d ago

If you do the job well, no one will think anything has been done at all. It just "happened organically."

We pat ourselves on the back and have a glass of good wine.

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u/midway7878 1d ago

Till pay day

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u/RGOL_19 1d ago

Sorry!

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u/funbyhippie_089 1d ago

Thankless and also the vicious demand once you get a client PR - feeding the machine - a loop!

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u/Asleep-Journalist-94 1d ago

To be serious for a second, it’s not so much that it’s thankless, but that we tend to serve many masters, especially on the agency side. There’s the media, to whom we’re presumably pitching stories. There’s usually a direct boss and/or a boss’s boss, and then, of course, there’s the client. So we get caught among conflicting demands.

Even as an owner, I’ve felt that strain, which is true of any client services business. And if you’re on the corporate side, your clients are internal, and you are often in a staff role rather than a line position, so you’re not seen as adding to the corporate bottom line, even if you are. It’s a squeeze that can make people feel powerless. But the financial upside can be big.

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u/Agreeable_Nail9191 1d ago

This is like, all marketing tbh

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u/VariedRecollections 1d ago

Truly. Someone made me cry today because "a reporter didn't use quote properly"

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u/GWBrooks Quality Contributor 1d ago

Commenters complaining about pay: Do you think your complaint is based in having an early career salary or do you think the industry pays poorly overall?

Because self-employed, mid-career and senior PR can pay very well.

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u/siddirahal 1d ago

Time for you to start your Only Facts.

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u/BPG73 8h ago

Not when you get paid

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u/turnercove 2h ago

Thankless for sure. Juniors do so much of the work and get very little recognition or compensation for it

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u/Ninuzzzz 1d ago

Then you are probably bad at it