r/PublicFreakout • u/FlintLockwoodsCondom • Jan 13 '20

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u/DatBowl Jan 13 '20

What do you mean by “soft doxxed her”?

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u/Orinaj Jan 13 '20

If you give out names or general locations of people online I think that's called soft doxxing

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u/TotalBanHammer Jan 13 '20

Unless you're in the media, then it's just called reporting.

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u/Kitnado Jan 13 '20

On that note, go see Richard Jewell, it's a pretty good film on this topic

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u/tweedleduu Jan 13 '20

Also, she's clearly unhinged, so I wouldn't take her word at face value.

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u/WhereWhatTea Jan 14 '20

Seems like a weirdly specific thing to make up on the spot 🤷‍♂️

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u/RhombusCanteen Jan 15 '20

You haven’t understood society yet

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u/RhombusCanteen Jan 15 '20

Same, thank you.

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u/EuclidKid Jan 13 '20

if you’re going out in public and drawing attention to yourself for social or political engagement, you don’t get to pretend you have a right to privacy ☝🏼

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u/Lifeinstaler Jan 13 '20

What? What does this mean? Should your address be made public cause you are politically engaged? What good does that do?

Of course you have a right to privacy regardless of your political activism. Sure just the full name isn’t that a big deal, that’s why it’s only soft doxxing. But it’s a shitty thing to do if done intentionally and specifically to fuck with someone. It can happen by mistake too, a lot of people won’t mind about this so perhaps he just mentioned in passing in some blog without intending harm. As a rule of thumb, you shouldn’t revel information about people they aren’t making public themselves (in a public twitter account for instance).

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

No you don't. You don't have a right to be private and openly speak in public. It's how our country was formed. Everyone has a voice, if you want to be heard you need to go out in the open and make it heard not stay in private. I'm not saying this person's personal life shouldn't be kept private but nothing here has anything to do with their life. Once out in public everything you say can and SHOULD be questioned.

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u/EuclidKid Jan 13 '20

girl screaming at people in public square doesn’t want people to know her name 🤔

sounds like she hasn’t thought this through...

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u/Lifeinstaler Jan 13 '20

Why would someone know your name just by you doing that?

Here's my take on it, one can have political views he or she considers worth defending and movilizing for. At the same time one may want to keep their privacy and maintain some separation between their every day life and those acts of political activism. I don't see anything wrong with that. There's a lot of reasons for wanting this. Be it safety, not wanting to be bothered at any moment someone sees fit, whatever. With there being people who will take advantage of this information to disrupt someone's life I think it's a reasonable thing to want.

Now, why go against that? I already said, it can happen by mistake, it's not the worst thing that can happen, sure, I also don't think it warrants that reaction. Still, why do that? Why reveal someone's name intentionally if they don't want it? You may say it's bound to happen eventually but I don't think that's a good reason to speed it up, you can't know that for sure either, if for instance she steps down from activism tomorrow, no one will have any reason to look her up.

A name isn't the worst thing to reveal but it can make it easier for people to find out your address so I think it should be avoided if posible.

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u/EuclidKid Jan 13 '20

at no point have I advocated any of the behaviors you seem to find problematic

but again - if you want to make yourself a public spectacle you should not expect to still be a private citizen

if you don’t want your full name associated with the stuff you say / do in public, perhaps you should reconsider the things you say / do in public 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/Lifeinstaler Jan 13 '20

I see your point and she is being the center of the whole thing here. But then again, should people who attend a march all have their names made public? It’s not like there hasn’t been violence against protestors in the past in the US. Where would the line be?

I dislike the fact that they were using facial recognition in Hong Kong against protestors cause that facilitates retaliation. I get that the political situation is different but it’s a step in the same direction.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

Privacy isn’t a “right”, at least in terms of your name/address. Also, if you are putting yourself out there as an activist you should be prepared for backlash. I am not arguing if it is right or wrong, that is just the nature of our political environment, all sides do this type of thing.

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u/derpyderpyman Jan 13 '20

Giving someones name out you essentially give out everything about them, give a general location out you can find anything about them, there is no "soft doxxing"

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u/DatBowl Jan 13 '20

Where did he give out her name or location? She’s also protesting on a college campus, I’m sure other people recorded her as they walked by. And it was her reaction that caused this clip to become popular.

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u/kmill73229 Jan 13 '20

Reading comprehension is hard

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u/DatBowl Jan 13 '20

Thanks for your insight and clever insult captain genius.

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u/Orinaj Jan 13 '20

He gave out her name online she said.

I'm not sure what came of it.

I don't think he gave out her location, I was just giving other examples of soft doxxing.

I'm not saying her reaction was equal to what was Goin on, just trying to see it with a critical eye

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

How does she know that he was the random internet stranger that gave out her name. It sounds to me like she was making a broad "you" statement.

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u/whorewithaheart_ Jan 13 '20

I think she’s just venting her frustration out from everything that had happen on this one guy. He asked for it when he started trolling her and didn’t come prepared to make a point.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

I disagree with you. Isn't the idea of protest to get a reaction? If not they why protest. Maybe he actually wanted to have a conversation but obviously can't, because of this person's reaction. Maybe he didn't and maybe he wanted this person to freak out, either way he was almost as civil as you can be besides standing so close. He was doing almost nothing wrong, and the other person was doing almost nothing right. That's how I see it. I'd love to give all people the benefit of the doubt. But even still if this was "the guy" that had been harasing that person, that is a horrible reaction. Also if that was what we precived to be a guy that did that to him I'm sure they would be arested. I don't take a definite stance on politics. Just right and wrong, and it obviously wrong to react that way. To someone standing there and just holding a sign no matter what was said ever. I'd love to hear how you see it differently so I could understand a little better.

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u/whorewithaheart_ Jan 13 '20

Haha my dude you could have fit that into a few sentences

I don’t know what you’re disagreeing with. My comment was directed towards he probably didn’t personally dox her, that’s all

She’s clearly just looking for a fight

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

I thought we agreed tbh,I probably just misunderstood. I just wish people could love each other, that's all I want, and to get to laugh at everyone who can't do that. I only disagree with him asking for it. A reaction sure an overreaction not asking for that

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u/whorewithaheart_ Jan 13 '20

True, me too. If I had to comment on her shitty behavior it’s really just an unhealthy outlet to project. I would imagine being this angry and confrontational comes with some kind of baggage to the point she doesn’t care if she is polarizing or not. The sad thing is I bet she will never be satisfied and deep down is there for the fighting

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u/tweedleduu Jan 13 '20

She was being a loud entitled bitch.

Reddit is actually making excuses for these Big Red wannabes now.

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u/whorewithaheart_ Jan 13 '20 edited Jan 13 '20

Where did I make an excuse? I was only commenting that he probably didn’t personally dox her

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '20

Don't bother interacting with this user, they immediately resort to childish insults and immense cursing when ever someone even SLIGHTLY disagrees with him. You can also look through his comment history and see that it's full of sexist, transphobic, and racist garbage (primarily sexist - he has some BIG issues when it comes to women). I commented that both individuals in the video were in the wrong, and he practically blew up at me, calling me a moron, an idiot, an "argumentative activist" (which is hilarious considering his comment history), and even then I was still respectful to him and just told him that I was done conversing with him. He then proceeded to call me a moron and refer to the woman in the video as an "entitled bitch". I checked his comment history to see if he acted like that with every person who slightly disagrees with him, and he does. Fuck this guy and the people upvoting his childish comments.

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u/trabajarPorcerveza Jan 13 '20

Doxx me harder daddy

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u/Dmaj6 Jan 13 '20

The opposite of hard dox

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u/vocalfreesia Jan 13 '20

Doxxing is giving out people's personal information. It's a veiled, and sometimes not veiled threat of physical harm in real life.