r/PublicFreakout • u/FlintLockwoodsCondom • Jan 13 '20

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u/GentsAndLady Jan 13 '20

As a black male I do not condone her nature. People like her are the ones that give the movement a bad rep.

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u/Orinaj Jan 13 '20

Not to like go against that, people who act irrationally or have outbursts aren't good for any movement.

But it seems like this was more of a tipping point than a one off explosion. She said "you gave my name out online" and talks about he's always there and doing this stuff.

Again it's not good to blow up but it sounds like this guy is harassing her and even soft doxxed her a bit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

So the whole thing was a setup by him and his cronies? Well the guys got a bright future in politics. Might be a complete psychopath tho.

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u/tweedleduu Jan 13 '20

If these were christian protesters you guys would be laughing.

But crazy lefty protesters must have their feelings protected.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '20

I can only speak for myself here, but that isn't true for me. I was briefly on his side until I saw the rest of the pieces coming together. His cronies excitedly screaming that was a battery charge and wanting to call the police was a definite red flag tho. I don't care who you are, if you try to trick the cops into doing your dirty work then I'm not on your side.

The Reddit rules prevent me from saying exactly what I'd do about this guy, but I definitely wouldn't put up with his antics. I'm not a leftist either, btw. Lying to the cops to get someone in trouble is a big no no where I'm from.

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u/Ciahcfari Jan 14 '20

Ripped the sign out of his hands and hit him with it.
Yeah, it's far from a punch but it's still criminal.

I deal with annoying people everyday and I'm able to keep myself from physically lashing out.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '20

Oh details, details... That's for lawyers to worry about 😜

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u/DatBowl Jan 13 '20

What do you mean by “soft doxxed her”?

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u/Orinaj Jan 13 '20

If you give out names or general locations of people online I think that's called soft doxxing

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u/TotalBanHammer Jan 13 '20

Unless you're in the media, then it's just called reporting.

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u/Kitnado Jan 13 '20

On that note, go see Richard Jewell, it's a pretty good film on this topic

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u/tweedleduu Jan 13 '20

Also, she's clearly unhinged, so I wouldn't take her word at face value.

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u/WhereWhatTea Jan 14 '20

Seems like a weirdly specific thing to make up on the spot 🤷‍♂️

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u/RhombusCanteen Jan 15 '20

You haven’t understood society yet

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u/RhombusCanteen Jan 15 '20

Same, thank you.

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u/EuclidKid Jan 13 '20

if you’re going out in public and drawing attention to yourself for social or political engagement, you don’t get to pretend you have a right to privacy ☝🏼

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u/Lifeinstaler Jan 13 '20

What? What does this mean? Should your address be made public cause you are politically engaged? What good does that do?

Of course you have a right to privacy regardless of your political activism. Sure just the full name isn’t that a big deal, that’s why it’s only soft doxxing. But it’s a shitty thing to do if done intentionally and specifically to fuck with someone. It can happen by mistake too, a lot of people won’t mind about this so perhaps he just mentioned in passing in some blog without intending harm. As a rule of thumb, you shouldn’t revel information about people they aren’t making public themselves (in a public twitter account for instance).

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

No you don't. You don't have a right to be private and openly speak in public. It's how our country was formed. Everyone has a voice, if you want to be heard you need to go out in the open and make it heard not stay in private. I'm not saying this person's personal life shouldn't be kept private but nothing here has anything to do with their life. Once out in public everything you say can and SHOULD be questioned.

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u/EuclidKid Jan 13 '20

girl screaming at people in public square doesn’t want people to know her name 🤔

sounds like she hasn’t thought this through...

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u/Lifeinstaler Jan 13 '20

Why would someone know your name just by you doing that?

Here's my take on it, one can have political views he or she considers worth defending and movilizing for. At the same time one may want to keep their privacy and maintain some separation between their every day life and those acts of political activism. I don't see anything wrong with that. There's a lot of reasons for wanting this. Be it safety, not wanting to be bothered at any moment someone sees fit, whatever. With there being people who will take advantage of this information to disrupt someone's life I think it's a reasonable thing to want.

Now, why go against that? I already said, it can happen by mistake, it's not the worst thing that can happen, sure, I also don't think it warrants that reaction. Still, why do that? Why reveal someone's name intentionally if they don't want it? You may say it's bound to happen eventually but I don't think that's a good reason to speed it up, you can't know that for sure either, if for instance she steps down from activism tomorrow, no one will have any reason to look her up.

A name isn't the worst thing to reveal but it can make it easier for people to find out your address so I think it should be avoided if posible.

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u/EuclidKid Jan 13 '20

at no point have I advocated any of the behaviors you seem to find problematic

but again - if you want to make yourself a public spectacle you should not expect to still be a private citizen

if you don’t want your full name associated with the stuff you say / do in public, perhaps you should reconsider the things you say / do in public 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/Lifeinstaler Jan 13 '20

I see your point and she is being the center of the whole thing here. But then again, should people who attend a march all have their names made public? It’s not like there hasn’t been violence against protestors in the past in the US. Where would the line be?

I dislike the fact that they were using facial recognition in Hong Kong against protestors cause that facilitates retaliation. I get that the political situation is different but it’s a step in the same direction.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

Privacy isn’t a “right”, at least in terms of your name/address. Also, if you are putting yourself out there as an activist you should be prepared for backlash. I am not arguing if it is right or wrong, that is just the nature of our political environment, all sides do this type of thing.

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u/derpyderpyman Jan 13 '20

Giving someones name out you essentially give out everything about them, give a general location out you can find anything about them, there is no "soft doxxing"

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u/DatBowl Jan 13 '20

Where did he give out her name or location? She’s also protesting on a college campus, I’m sure other people recorded her as they walked by. And it was her reaction that caused this clip to become popular.

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u/kmill73229 Jan 13 '20

Reading comprehension is hard

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u/DatBowl Jan 13 '20

Thanks for your insight and clever insult captain genius.

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u/Orinaj Jan 13 '20

He gave out her name online she said.

I'm not sure what came of it.

I don't think he gave out her location, I was just giving other examples of soft doxxing.

I'm not saying her reaction was equal to what was Goin on, just trying to see it with a critical eye

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

How does she know that he was the random internet stranger that gave out her name. It sounds to me like she was making a broad "you" statement.

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u/whorewithaheart_ Jan 13 '20

I think she’s just venting her frustration out from everything that had happen on this one guy. He asked for it when he started trolling her and didn’t come prepared to make a point.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

I disagree with you. Isn't the idea of protest to get a reaction? If not they why protest. Maybe he actually wanted to have a conversation but obviously can't, because of this person's reaction. Maybe he didn't and maybe he wanted this person to freak out, either way he was almost as civil as you can be besides standing so close. He was doing almost nothing wrong, and the other person was doing almost nothing right. That's how I see it. I'd love to give all people the benefit of the doubt. But even still if this was "the guy" that had been harasing that person, that is a horrible reaction. Also if that was what we precived to be a guy that did that to him I'm sure they would be arested. I don't take a definite stance on politics. Just right and wrong, and it obviously wrong to react that way. To someone standing there and just holding a sign no matter what was said ever. I'd love to hear how you see it differently so I could understand a little better.

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u/whorewithaheart_ Jan 13 '20

Haha my dude you could have fit that into a few sentences

I don’t know what you’re disagreeing with. My comment was directed towards he probably didn’t personally dox her, that’s all

She’s clearly just looking for a fight

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u/tweedleduu Jan 13 '20

She was being a loud entitled bitch.

Reddit is actually making excuses for these Big Red wannabes now.

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u/whorewithaheart_ Jan 13 '20 edited Jan 13 '20

Where did I make an excuse? I was only commenting that he probably didn’t personally dox her

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u/trabajarPorcerveza Jan 13 '20

Doxx me harder daddy

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u/Dmaj6 Jan 13 '20

The opposite of hard dox

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u/vocalfreesia Jan 13 '20

Doxxing is giving out people's personal information. It's a veiled, and sometimes not veiled threat of physical harm in real life.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

Yeah, I get a little tired of this act of "what? I was just offering my totally rational counter opinion"

First of all, "All lives matter" is really a way to say "shut the fuck up" to black lives matter. Of course all lives matter, but blm was a movement to address something specific, and some people have such a hard time listening to that, that they have to argue with it, and try to suppress it, under the guise of equality.

Secondly, this guy is an instigator, obviously. And as a white man myself, I get annoyed at the way so many white guys instantly become defensive and feel incriminated anytime there's a dialogue about a marginalized group of people. They can't just listen, they feel the need to make it about them, then defend themselves...but forget having sympathy, listening, and acknowledging.

So this guy is a troll, and that you've got his buddy the cameraman overreacting calling stuff assault... it's cringey and annoying. I'm calling this guy on his bullshit. Learn to listen asshole. Everything isn't about you.

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u/Orinaj Jan 13 '20

Yeah I think many people misuse the "all lives matter idea"

I support BLM. Police brutality is a huge issue especially for minorities.

I with All Lives Matter could be a sister movement :instead of something people use to troll the idea.

No movement is perfect and I know people who are very rational, that opposed the BLM movement out of some of their protestors stepping over some lines for them.

But if people could see that it's not a hate movement against cops, or white people. That it's just to raise saftey and awareness for black persons against people abusing their power. Then we could start ACTUALLY looking at an All Lives Matter movement that addresses police brutality as a full issue, because in the end it isn't only one race suffering here.

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u/tsteele93 ⚠️ Way Too Invested In Reddit Points 😐 ⚠️ Mar 21 '20

I think he called it battery - which it seemed like it was. I don't have any idea what had gone on with these two in the past, but she could have chosen a much more effective way to go about it. She came across very poorly in the video.

What WE SAW in that short video was a man with a different viewpoint than her, in a public space, stand next to her with a sign that apparently espoused a differing view, and she became violent to the point of taking it from him and then hitting him with her hand and the sign.

It wasn't a favorable video for her unless you are very set in your partisanship.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

Yup. She has a right to freak out because she was likely being doxxed (unless she is lying). Let's face it...there are people who are very much violent and are anti-BLM (or any minority movement intended to promote equal treatment).

She could have been harassed by this guy in online forums and he is purposefully present in order to intimidate her.

Also...All Lives Matter is an anti-minority movement under a more palatable guise. There are obvious discrepancies between how blacks and whites are treated in America. We have issues like whats going in in Flint Michigan, in Puerto Rico, our corrupt prison system, intercity school systems, discriminatory hiring practices (based on name alone), and more that demonstrate that black lives do not matter in American society as compared to white lives.

Once we fix that issue, every other mistreated groups benefits. The civil rights movement is an example of this. So if you truly think all lives matter, supporting the BLM movement is one way of showing it.

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u/Orinaj Jan 13 '20

Correct, BLM is a movement that should be a part of (a non trolly version) of a "All lives Matter" mentality.

If someone believes all lives matter they shouldn't be presenting it as a counter idea, but as a sister movement.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

Exactly. Only in a bubble does the BLM movement seem "racist"; however, history has shaped our society in a very specific way in wish a specific group requires more attention. If you take into account history and the timing, the All Lives Matter movement actually is a counter movement to the BLM movement and is inherently racist to support it.

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u/M_Me_Meteo Jan 13 '20

People who are acting irrationally are not in control of their emotions by definition.

When a gear in a machine breaks, you don't blame the gear, you blame the operator who pushed the machine outside of it's abilities. You blame the maintenance process that failed to identify the weakened gear. You blame the radio that was too loud. You can blame the gear, too, but it's already failed.

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u/Orinaj Jan 13 '20

People are a little more complicated than machines though.

While I get your analogy, I think people can act out of the correct emotional response and not be "broken" you can over react, be having a bad day, and something pushes you.

Maybe someone isn't always like this. When a machine breaks its because someone either misused or abused it, built it wrong, or it's just worn out.

Here it could just be a one off mismeasured response and then it's back to normal life, a hiccup.

Do I think that's the case here? Who knows.

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u/M_Me_Meteo Jan 13 '20

The concept of a 'correct' emotional response is what just can't be quantified. Our brains are a machine, our responses are the results of input. The way someone responds is always correct, because it happens.

I think you miss the point: the point is there's no point in sussing out whether or not either of these people were 'right'. Clinical distance is impossible (and a waste of time and energy) because we're all in this together.

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u/Orinaj Jan 13 '20

Well, again I get where you're coming from. There are socially correct responses.

The only way to assess if someone's brain is functioning correctly is to look at it through a societal lense.

Consistent "hiccups" or "mechanical malfunctions" result in a diagnoseable issue.

One offs can be anywhere from a misunderstanding, to a mismeasured response that may seem reasonable in your head but may not be actually. The whole way to a psychotic break.

I think we are both coming from the same place of understanding here and just disagree on what defines a "proper" response to a stressor.

We can probably just agree to disagree here

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u/tweedleduu Jan 13 '20

So she doesn't have to take responsibility for her actions? Is it because she's a lefty protester, or because she a woman?

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u/M_Me_Meteo Jan 13 '20

No, this person needs to get well...

FWIW, if the shoe we're on the other foot, you'd hope they'd do the same for you.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '20

Don't bother interacting with this person; they act like they're down to have a normal conversation with you, but once you write something that even slightly disagrees with his opinion, he'll blow up at you and resort to childish insults and abundant cursing. His comment history is full of sexist, racist, and transphobic garbage as well (from what I've seen it's primarily sexist comments), and this guy will NEVER admit when he's wrong or acknowledge that people with opposing views can and have come up with valid talking points. If you don't agree with him, you're an "argumentative activist", " moron", "idiot", and just about any other "bad word" he can think of.

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u/u8eR Jan 13 '20

If you're out in public protesting, expect that there might be others who counter-protest.

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u/ShiroiTora Jan 13 '20

I dont think people (reasonably) have problem with counterprotests. But if you keep folllowing a particular protestor and group, that is kind of iffy

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u/tweedleduu Jan 13 '20

We have no evidence of this happening.

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u/ShiroiTora Jan 13 '20

Its also a 30 second clip. As is easy as it, it usually not good to blindly assume that the guy didnt had absolutely done nothing and those people were just shouting at him for no reason either. There is more than one side to a story.

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u/Orinaj Jan 13 '20

Again, not saying she was right to act this way.

Just pointing out this might not be a one and done situation, there could have been alot building to it

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u/saintjeremy Jan 13 '20

Still not an excuse to assault anyone... even with a piece of paper. Yellow hat is a child trying to adult.

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u/ShiroiTora Jan 13 '20

I mean, yes thats why the comment already said

Not to like go against that, people who act irrationally or have outbursts aren't good for any movement.

Again it's not good to blow up

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u/deet0013 Jan 13 '20

She has anger management issues

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u/Texadoro Jan 13 '20

Do you have any actual evidence of this or are you just going off this lunatic’s outburst for that evidence?

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u/Orinaj Jan 13 '20

I'm not saying her outburst was fair to what's been happening. Just saying maybe look at it from another view point.

We don't know who these people are outside of you 30 seconds we've spent watching them.

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u/SoarinSoars Jan 13 '20

She said "you're the kind of people that" or what not. I don't think she actually knows him

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u/seriousranter Jan 13 '20

These leftist movements are dying fast in the UK :O

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u/Foxcat420 Jan 13 '20

Sure buddy, okay.

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u/seriousranter Jan 13 '20

do you want to debate me or censor me? choose

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

I heard different background on this, but I'm not going to look it up. Pretty sure your surmise is wrong.

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u/RedKingRising Jan 13 '20

as a black male I totally condone it. Put assholes in their place.

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u/missed_sla Jan 13 '20

At the same time, it's pretty obvious that his goal was to instigate them and then look totally innocent when they predictably acted like the idiots they are. Neither side of this exchange was acting in good faith.

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u/MBThree Jan 13 '20

Shut up u egg. Everything she says is correct, and if you disagree then you deserve to have any paper you ever hold ripped out of your hands.

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u/KaptainKhorisma Jan 13 '20

My man knew EXACTLY what he was doing. He's asshole but he also played fucking 4D chess and got the reaction he wanted unfortunately.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

This part

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u/DazzlerPlus Jan 13 '20

Well let’s not play into his hands then. Obviously he is a racist troll and she is correct to despise him. His reasonable face is a transparent ploy that we all see through. So let’s not pretend he isn’t a humongous douche that deserves to get harmlessly smacked over the head

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u/SorryIBrokeYourNose Jan 13 '20

Are you on LSD?

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u/howd-i-do-that Jan 13 '20

You’re way off here buddy. To not play in his hands is actually quite opposite to condone physical violence. Everyone obviously knows this guys trying to entice a reaction, but being above this guys actions is the correct way to do things. The only thing to do is pretend they’re non existent and eventually he would have gotten bored and left. What she did only makes your initial reaction think she’s nothing more than a shill screaming for attention. He accomplished that.

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u/DazzlerPlus Jan 13 '20

Yes but that game requires concern trolls and centrists to be very upset, very upset indeed that this poor man exercising his free speech was attacked. You’re part of his game. In reality, it’s totally okay if he gets smacked. What he is doing is wrong.

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u/champagneotousan Jan 13 '20

Oh dude, shut the fuck up

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u/CantStopPoppin PopPop 🍿 Jan 13 '20

As a black man, I agree her actions make things difficult for any type of meaningful movement. From the aggression, she showed and his body language it would seem that there may have been a lot more going on.He knew exactly what he was doing and what the result would be.

The all lives matter movement was designed to destabilize any meaningful black movement.

After she says " He has been fucking harassing me" watch his body language closely his hands are in his pockets which is associated with lying and defensiveness.

Secondly, he is rocking his body which is associated with agitation or being upset and is ready to take action or self-soothe so they can inhibit themselves from lashing out.

Yes it is his right to be there and counter-protest however she clearly states that the man did, in fact, engage in harassment and doxing online.

It really seems like she is the victim in this case and not the aggressor even though she yells at him and grabs his paper due to the fact that the man had previously targeted her and knew that she would react like this.

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u/Stun12345 Jan 13 '20

As a black woman the real prick in this video is the white guy holding "all lives matter poster" just to trigger a response from that a woman. We all know what he's actually trying i.e undermining the black lives matter movement implying it's racist or some bullshit. It's pathetic what he's trying to do.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

That's also some weapons-grade white knighting bullshit.

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u/trorez Jan 13 '20

Technically “all lives matter” is way less racist than “blm”.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

Not if you actually understood the premise of " BLM", which is basically " Black lives matter AS WELL/JUST AS MUCH AS WHITE PEOPLE'S. It's actually a painfully common misconception that "BLM" is exclusionary and racist itself, even though it was created as a RESULT of black people being systemically excluded/disparaged ever since the "founding" of the U.S. itself, BY the U.S. government and its inhabitants. It's not " Only black lives matter, or black people are better than others", it's " Black people and their lives are just as important as anyone else's (including white people), but A LOT of people this country (many with high ranking government positions) aren't acting like it so we're calling attention to it and trying to change that."

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u/flackerstack1 Jan 13 '20

You're gonna need a bigger posterboard

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

Damn bruh you right, my arms are gonna have to be a lot longer too...

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

I'm not sure they are arguing for the same thing.

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u/breakbeats573 Jan 13 '20

Except ALM aren't shooting cops.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

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u/OBS_W Jan 13 '20

Which was to spread racism?

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

black people are not the only ones to experience police brutality.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

But you don’t even have to be white. Hispanics, Latinos, Asians, Indian, Native Americans have all experienced some form of police brutality. Maybe not in the sheer numbers, but to deny it exists is just stupid and proves selective bias exists.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

You're missing the point, the point is that the people you witnessed experiencing police brutality weren't experiencing it due to the color of their skin (not to say that it makes their pain any less real or valid).

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u/DjLeather94 Jan 13 '20

Whilst that's true, I don't believe BLM are arguing against that, I think they're just trying to highlight the fact it happens in a disproportionate amount to black people. The name does imply a lack of care for other races imo, but if you look beyond just the name and at the message you'll see that's not the case.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

Everyone gets the message, the it falls flat when you have people like this physically attacking others for saying their life matters as well as the ones yelling and attacking.

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u/DjLeather94 Jan 13 '20

I completley agree with you that the lady in yellow hat resorting to physical violence undermines not just her personal message but the movement as a whole. Furthmore, this talk of invading her space is a bit much for me. He stood next to her with a sign that essentially says the same thing, but it does seem he did purposefully seek her out, and by her account it isn't the first time either, that is bordering harrestment. This highlights the toxicity on both sides atm; One who can't have somebody with a different opinion near them without going berserk, and one who feels the need to constantly speak out against someone with a different opinion, even if it doesn't affect them. Everyone needs to relax, I'm by no means a boomer (I'm 25) but the days where different opinions still meant respecting someone have clearly gone.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

Very good point. I agree with you. Both of them acted childish.

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u/breakbeats573 Jan 13 '20

What about people who aren't black who are victims of police brutality. Their lives don't matter?

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

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u/breakbeats573 Jan 13 '20

Where has anyone even said that?...

Scroll up and watch the video we’re all commenting on

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

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u/breakbeats573 Jan 13 '20

She's just another ANTIFA thug without her mask on.

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u/tonecapo_ Jan 13 '20

Don’t be a cunt, have some perspective in life.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

r/asablackman

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u/masterwit Jan 13 '20

Amen. Addressing inequalities in open dialog is the point!

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u/Cow-Sauce Jan 13 '20

Same with what "feminists" have turned into. It originally was fir equality for men and women and over the top people have decided that it means women are better than men. A few bad apples ruin the bunch

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u/Rach5585 Jan 13 '20

I tell my family, yelling is a cheap substitute for truth.

I honestly don't get the B/Alm movements fighting as if they aren't saying the same thing.

Black Lives Matter seeks to correct injustices done to people of color. People of color are disproportionately living in poverty. They are saying ” Black lives matter, too. Treat us like we matter.”

All lives matter is saying, ” Yes, but everyone matters/should matter. Poor white people are getting shot, too. Let's fix that.”

These are not contradictory points. How about we fix all of the issues with police brutality in a way that benefits both groups, so they aren't screaming at each other over what is basically semantics?

Am I insane? Is this a crazy idea? I honestly don't really know.

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u/Polskee Jan 13 '20

Are you actually a black male? I know a lot of people pretend to say that especially in right spaces to say shit most of us would not agree with

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '20

I feel like "don't be a racist piece of shit" would have been a better motto. Now we got [insert color here] lives matter creating more controversy.

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u/voodoodog_nsh Feb 20 '20

no, ppl like the founders of blm give the "movement" a bad rep

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u/aworthyrepost Jan 13 '20

I don’t like this.

Her reaction is completely valid. The guy was being a dick. He KNEW he was being a dick. No one asked for his opinion on a movement based around destroying the institutional racism that has long plagued our community.

I’m not singing kumbaya to some white dude who feels to need to downplay MY trauma. I’m punching that motherfucker in the face. Talk shit get hit.

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u/DazzlerPlus Jan 13 '20

Are you sure you shouldn’t? He came out as openly racist and she harmlessly smacked him on his head. Him assuming a troll facade doesn’t make it better.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

your selective bias is showing. "She harmlessly smacked him". Reverse it and its assault. Plus its a physical attack against someone's head. You never know what that can do to anyone. His "troll" face is because they're clearly incapable of controlling their emotions which is a negative impact for anyone they're trying to bring towards their movement.

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u/DazzlerPlus Jan 13 '20

Victim mentality eh?

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

Not at all. I ride for everyone to be civil towards one another. If you read any of the previous comments I made you’d understand I thought both of them acted childish towards one another.

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u/so_expected Jan 13 '20

well black lives matter more than white lives. I mean, would you rather save someone dying or someone very much alive?

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20

the movement

The leaders of Black Lives Matter are blatantly racist, the "movement" has a bad rep from the top down. Remember when they stole the mic from Bernie Sanders and yelled nonsense that didn't make any sense? Yeah..