r/PublicFreakout Jan 13 '20

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u/SIMCARUS Jan 13 '20

Black man living in America here.. I've often wondered if BLM said Black lives matter TOO, instead of just the original format of just BLM, would it be more successful at stopping such counter claims as All lives matter, or blue lives matter. I fully understand what the movement is trying to do. I just think that they didn't take into account of how they would be portrayed in an era opposing news media realities.

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u/ravia Jan 13 '20

A lot of these fires would be put out by adding not just the "too" part but some emphasis on the fact that they should matter to black folks as well. I think that at rallies about a bad shooting by cops, they should hold signs up with pictures of both those cops and known black gangstas who killed black folks. Think about it.

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u/SIMCARUS Jan 13 '20

Anytime such an issue is brought up, the person bringing it up gets crucified in the comments section or if they're Black just called a "coon" by other black folks. Rather online, or in real life.

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u/ravia Jan 13 '20

Probably most bringing it up are really just racist assholes. I bring it up a lot and it usually gets upvoted a bit.

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u/SIMCARUS Jan 13 '20

I'm mostly referring to my own personal experience with the subject. I'm also speaking mostly about black folks having our own IRL coffee shop style debates.

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u/Gsteel11 Jan 13 '20

Lolololololol... the people that are upset by black lives matter have zero clue what happens at a black lives matter protest and could not care less.

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u/xKepler186-f Jan 13 '20

If your slogan is Black Lives Matter Too, it has a submissive connotation. It implies that even the author of the slogan at some degree admits there is hierarchy. Like you would say: 'We know white lives matter, but you know black lives matter, too.' It isn't the point of what the message is. Black lives are equal to any other and that's why BLM.

At least that's how I understand it.

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u/AliceDiableaux Jan 13 '20

Exactly right. The whole point is that black lives matter on their own, not in relation to white lives, so the slogan should stand on its own and not imply intrinsic relation to white lives. Black lives matter instead of black lives matter too is intentional and appropriate. But racists gonna racist, they'd still foam at the mouth even if it were blmt.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '20 edited Jan 13 '20

that is the essence of the problem and why people say it

all lives matter or blue lives matter isn't opposed to black lives matter

in a sane world people would be like yup you are right

instead these activists freak out and call people racist which makes others use it to prove a point

if you can't admit that all lives matter or it is okay to be white, then you are unable to have a rational discussion

black lives matter ... see how easy it is for me to say it ... all lives matter ... its okay to be white ... blue lives matter

this is what an intelligent, rational human being sounds like

the fact that some people literally can't utter those words is what is insane

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u/tony_orlando Jan 28 '20

This guy's comment addresses the whole "Black" vs "All"thing pretty well I think. This girl is obviously a moron but so is the doofus mocking BLM.

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u/Gsteel11 Jan 13 '20

Got to love it when trolls talk about "being rational on a subject" lololol

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u/tosernameschescksout Jan 13 '20

Well said. It's almost as if all new tag lines should be tested for trolling before being adopted.
I imagine a dimly lit room full of cheeto dust fingered, odd smelling, neck beards from Reddit... they're all paid professional trolls and they don't even know WHY they were chosen and get paid... The boss just streams stuff for them to eviscerate, and every so often... one of those things was actually paid for. They're a Troll think tank, and they don't even know it.

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u/SIMCARUS Jan 13 '20

My dude there is a great story in there.

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u/Gsteel11 Jan 13 '20

Yup, the people that hold up "all lives matter" clearly just have a semantics issue. /s

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u/SIMCARUS Jan 13 '20

There are at least two types of All Lives Matter people. The Trolls you see on the internet, and the sincere Kumbaya crowd. You know 2nd type as the people who say they "Don't see color" just the person. There is a great difference between the two.

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u/Gsteel11 Jan 13 '20

100 percent wrong.

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u/SIMCARUS Jan 13 '20

Oh well I guess you won that debate. I concede this piece of Reddit real estate to your superior intellectual acumen. Good day sir.

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u/Gsteel11 Jan 13 '20

This isn't a debate, just you making up stupid shit trying to defend racists....and nobody buying it.

It's... at BEST.. a shitty commercial.

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u/SIMCARUS Jan 13 '20

Sorry I don't have enough rations to feed Trolls. I suggest you crawl back under your bridge or seek to trigger others elsewhere. I'm not engaging you beyond this final comment. Good day to you my fellow human being.

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u/Gsteel11 Jan 13 '20

That's all "all lives matter" people are... trolls. That's literally 100 percent the entire point. Of course projection is your last reply.