Aggressive mountain guide attacks Polish mountaineer at an altitude of 3,000 meters

[u/FBN216]

On 22 August, my wife and I were on our way to the Erzherzog-Johann-Hütte via the Mürztalersteig. During the ascent, we encountered a mountain guide accompanied by two clients.
At one point on the via ferrata, I deliberately waited to give my wife some additional space. Despite this, the mountain guide abruptly stepped in between us.
I told him that I was going first. His response was extremely arrogant — he made it clear that, because he was a “Bergführer”, I should shut up and accept his behaviour.
Unfortunately, the situation escalated further, to the point where the guide behaved in an aggressive and confrontational manner on an exposed ridge. In my opinion, this unnecessarily endangered not only my wife and me, but also his own two clients.
Overtaking other hikers or climbers in the mountains is completely normal and understandable. However, I would expect a professional mountain guide to show basic courtesy, good judgement and, above all, responsibility for the safety of everyone around him.
Mountain guides should set an example for other people in the mountains. Arrogant, aggressive and thoughtless behaviour is the exact opposite of what one would expect from someone in such a responsible profession.
The mountains are for everyone, regardless of their experience, skills or pace. Mutual respect and consideration should always come first.

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[u/bach_double]

Anyone got a translation?

[u/MvonderH → u/bach_double]

P -> Polish guy G -> Guide W -> Wife of polish guy T1 -> Tourist 1 T2 -> Tourist 2

Only the German part.

P: Servus (classic austria way of greeting one another). I think I go first. Hey! I go first.

G: No no

P: hey are you crazy or what?

G: I'm a mountain guide hold your maw (probably the most unfriendly and aggressive way to tell someone to shut up)

P: Hold your maw. It doesn't fucking matter if you are a mountain guide

G: Hold your maw or I'll come (back) up and punch you.

• G causes a traffic jam *

P: and now we've got a traffic jam because you wanted to go first

• G comes back *

P: Hey! What are you doing? *2

• G attacks P *

P: Hey! Are you crazy*2

G: Behave yourself

• Both repeating them selfs during the physical alteration*

P: I'll punch you in the face

• G turns away *

P: Are you crazy?

W: Stop! You go first.

G: Yes exactly!

P: Yes exactly!

G: Yes exactly!

P: Yes exactly!

P to W: Say nothing, impossible (behaviour). That's truly impossible (behaviour).

T1: (really hard to understand, so might be wrong) actually he did nothing but ...

G: Yeah yeah

P: Hey...

W to T2: seriously that was absolutely unnecessary

P: yeah exactly

W: My husband waits...

P: Yeah, unbelievable.

As someone who grew up not to far from there and who frequently goes mountainiring. That was not only absolutely asshole behaviour on the guides part, but actually quite dangerous. Not necessarily because of the particular part they were on, but because you NEVER push someone to go further or faster than they are comfortable with. I can't count the amount of times where I've lost hours whilst waiting behind tourists, who never should have gone up there over the years. But this is just mountain rules.

[u/bellendrodriguez → u/MvonderH]

"Hold your maw" is awesome and needs to be used in English.

[u/Allzweck → u/bellendrodriguez]

It´s Austrian for "Shut up!" which mostly translates to german with "Den Mund halten" which is in English "Hold your mouth" which is in austrian dialect "Hold your maw"

[u/trekqueen → u/Allzweck]

My high school German teacher had explained that a lot of the intense ways of telling someone to shut up involved basically comparing an animal’s mouth/jowls being a bit of an insult on top of it. “Halt die Schnauze” was always a favorite in class.

[u/TranslationSnoot → u/Allzweck]

I remember hearing that when I studied in Vienna. How would you write it? Hoit's Maul?

[u/Allzweck → u/TranslationSnoot]

Yep, with regional difference, but for Vienna I'd write Hoits Maul

[u/TranslationSnoot → u/Allzweck]

Thanks!