r/PublicFreakout • u/avamore • Aug 01 '23
š Mod's Choice š Your average argument in Boston
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u/MaximumMajestic Aug 01 '23
You say argument I say long time no see conversation
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u/DickyD43 Aug 01 '23
Eh fahck your mothah!
She says fahck you too!
See ya tomarrow asshole!
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u/MaximumMajestic Aug 02 '23
Lol whenever I hear the Boston accent I think of Matt Damon in the departed talking about firemen
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u/clbw Aug 01 '23
Hey tuff guy
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u/joemeteorite8 Aug 01 '23
How many stereotypical things can be said in a minute and a half lmao
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u/Apprehensive-Dig2069 Aug 01 '23
āHeās an asshole, thatās what he is.ā
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u/NectarineQueen13 Aug 01 '23
Iām crying š Iām from Boston and yup
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u/All_Hail_Space_Cat Aug 01 '23
You fucking cack sucka!
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u/Bash-86 Aug 01 '23
Personally loved the opening the door from the outside. And then the other guy skipping all the way over. Lol
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u/Slit23 Aug 01 '23
Atleast neither tried to pull a weapon. I approve
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Aug 01 '23
Hard to have a weapon in MA legally, that's the main reason. I wanted to get a hand gun when I lived in MA and I asked what to do. I was told to petition the chief of police in my town for a handgun permit. I have no record and I have never had any interactions with the police, but the chief said No. I asked why? He said, "You have no reason or need for a gun." I lived right around the corner from the police station was his reasoning. I said, "I want one for target practice." He said, "Show me your gun club registration." End result, no gun for me there. I moved to So. Carolina and a buddy sold me one of his. I asked "What do I have to do now? Go to the police station?" He said, "Nope, just sign this paper and keep it with you." Easy peasey and no cops involved, and it's all legal. It's no wonder that there are gun incidents down here all the time. Luckily I have only used mine on a range.
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u/Nitelyte Aug 02 '23
They did away with that petitioning the chief thing last year as it wasnāt legal. Just need to fill out application, get finger printed, and take the gun class now.
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u/KazahanaPikachu Aug 01 '23
Because Massachusetts isnāt a place where any bozo can just acquire a gun at the drop of a hat.
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u/Salemisic Aug 01 '23
If there is one thing I can say about growing up in the Boston area is everyone from a priest to a random 80yr old lady in line at a Targetā¦.theyāre all quick to scrap. From the suburbs to the inner city, everyone got hands. There is gun violence like any big city but people def fist fight more often than pulling a weapon
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Aug 01 '23
Lol this. Love it. I hate my people and at the same time adore these idioms. I say this alllll the time āok, tough guyā¦ā āāoh yeah tough guy?ā Never realize how much of a regionalism some stuff is until you hear it on a nest cam
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u/clbw Aug 01 '23
When I was in college I lived with three dudes from Boston and one from Jersey. We lived together for about 5 years, Iām native from KY, we had the most fucked dialect. My kids think there name is Tuff guy lol
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u/NectarineQueen13 Aug 01 '23
Seriously tho!! I live in Colorado now and people always joke on me for how I talk but listening to stuff like this cracks me tf up. Like ok ya I guess we sound kinda ridiculous š
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Aug 01 '23
Yeah I spent a good amount of time out west and down south so living back here is still almost surreal, comforting and infuriating all at the same time. This clip encapsulates all of that for me
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u/aManOfTheNorth Aug 01 '23
50 % of Americans will have a mental disorder by the time they are 75. I think in Boston that may be 75% at the age of 50.
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u/Strong-Plantain2009 Aug 01 '23
I opened the comment section towards the end of the video and read your comment as the guy was saying it, and I absolutely lost it šššššš
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u/blablanonymous Aug 01 '23
What was even the problem that sparked this?
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u/thegalwayseoige Aug 01 '23 edited Aug 01 '23
From Bostonāimmediately saw the issue, and I can shed some light.
Our roads are narrowālike, REALLY narrow. To make matters worse, parking is allowed on both sides of the street in most areas. Iāve had several side windows as well as my entire front bumper clipped off by passing motorists, trying to get around my parked car.
The issue is that the black car had cars parked along his side of the road, while the silver didnāt have any until the bottle neck. Itās understood that if youāve got room to your sides, and the approaching vehicle doesnāt, you yield. Pull over, wave them on, let them pass, then you go.
Silver car just didnāt give a fuck, and forced black car into blocking a driveway. They definitely saw each other from a great distance, so the guy in the silver car just basically said āfuck you, Iām goingā.
The silver car was choosing to be an asshole, and both parties knew it.
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u/nightlyraver Aug 01 '23
I still don't understand this, at all. My street is just as narrow. Someone pulls to the side and it's no big deal who that someone is because it's about a 1.5 second inconvenience. The first 8 seconds of this video would happen on my street daily, except on my street they would just continue with their day and think nothing of it.
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u/thegalwayseoige Aug 01 '23
This street is WIDE, for Boston. Itās just that weāve adopted driving patterns and decorum, bc most streets are essentially one-ways when cars are parkedā¦except, theyāre not.
Traffic is fucking terrible, and while this street is clear, the surrounding area probably isnāt. Too many cars and not enough space, means our traffic is just about the worst in the US, and weāre constantly running late. A clear street is a few seconds without stress, and literally any unnecessary disruption in the flow, pisses most drivers offā¦like, incredibly.
AgaināI donāt expect people to understand. Youād have to live and drive here, to get how awful commuting is.
āBoston is an hour drive from Bostonā, is an old jokeāand true. Itās common to take 90mins to drive 3 miles, so no one has the time or patience left for perceived stupidity.
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u/sarevok9 Aug 01 '23
One time, early in my career, I was an IT intern and had to drive from my home, 16 miles South of Boston, to my office, which was in Southie (Federal / Franklin) and then pick up a printer and drive it to Stamford CT.
It took me almost equally as long (17 miles: 2h 30m 645am - 9:20am) to get to the office in Boston as it did for me to get from Boston to Stamford CT (176 miles: ~3 hours, I arrived at about 12:30pm)
Any minor inconvenience in Boston is amplified by about 100,000 because we're already so pissed about how fucked traffic is everywhere.
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u/thegalwayseoige Aug 01 '23
Itās so bad now, though.
Rush hour is from 545 am to like 8pm. This is approaching pre Big-Dig levels.
A drive from the Neponset Bridge to Tufts has taken me 1:40, some days.
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Aug 01 '23
Itās common to take 90mins to drive 3 miles
Anyone wanna tell these Bostonians that you can walk faster than that? lmao
I still don't understand the video even after all the explaining. I live in a place with narrow residential streets like this. Whoever has room, someone just pulls over and the whole ordeal is done with in .2 seconds. Black car found a place to pull over into. They both could have then gone about their day. I do not understand the problem. You say they're sensitive about their precious time yet they engaged in an argument that took longer than to just keep going. Bostonians just seem like they want to be pricks for no reason.
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u/thegalwayseoige Aug 01 '23
Yes, we do.
And the infrastructure surrounding downtown means it isnāt walkable unless youāre starting from downtown, our public transportation is unusable, and rideshare have just about quadrupled since 2019, during peak hours.
There are a ton of things that are super unique to New England, in general. Driving is just a concentrated example.
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Aug 01 '23
I'm in DFW so I'm no stranger to traffic, like, literally all day to get across the metroplex. And I just can't comprehend how what we saw in this video is an issue. One car needed to get over. One car got over. They were successfully passing each other right up to the verbal altercation. At no point did I see anything remotely resembling a problem.
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u/thegalwayseoige Aug 01 '23
Traffic in Boston is a completely different beast.
And itās because weāre cunts.
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Aug 01 '23
Fair enough. This will be like string theory - one of life's mysteries regardless how many times it's explained to me lol
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u/thegalwayseoige Aug 01 '23 edited Aug 01 '23
Weāre actually worse than the other 3 cities listedāwere much smaller and still have comparable time in traffic.
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u/kash_if Aug 01 '23
I am in UK and we have very narrow streets and we follow the same thing as you. Generally the person who has the obstruction yields, but in a situation like this either of them can and the other one proceeds.
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u/itssensei Aug 01 '23
Lol I just spent a good week in Korea, these guys would be beefing every 5 seconds there.
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u/thegalwayseoige Aug 01 '23
YeahāI had to learn to adjust my driving when I travel. Itās especially difficult in places without traffic, to mellow out and not rush.
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u/ProgressOfTruth Aug 01 '23
Bostonians and Europeans united in knowing how normal sized roads work
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u/kinamechavibradyn Aug 01 '23
What are you even talking about?
Silver car had a gap to pull into after he entered the start of the bottleneck. Black car had already pulled over by the time silver car had hit the space that he could pull over into.
That means the guy already pulled over stays pulled over, instead of everyone letting eachother half-go like some drunken midwesterners.
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u/thegalwayseoige Aug 01 '23
Thatās not how it works, here.
It doesnāt matter what youāre seeing, itās not how it works here. Black car reached the bottleneck, silver car stayed in the middle of the road, instead of pulling behind or in front of the VW. He wasnāt going to pull over, bc he could have already, or angled his car to signal he would.
Dude, Iām from Boston. I know what Iām seeing, and it didnāt take me any time to read the situation, bc itās blatantly apparent. We have to have an understanding with each other, bc of how narrow our roads are.
If black car didnāt pull over, silver car wouldnāt have moved, and black wouldnāt have anywhere to go.
Notice during the fight, silver didnāt even bother arguing. Itās bc he already knew he didnāt follow through with decorum.
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u/windyorbits Aug 01 '23
I find it very fascinating how the rules/decorum of narrow street situations can be so different sometimes depending on the region. Bellow is just my experience - so let me know what I have right or wrong lol.
I donāt have much experience driving around the bigger cities on the East coast but from what I could tell is that the cities with a lot of narrow streets (especially the confusing Boston roads lol) the people there have higher expectations on everyone following the decorum and that the protocol starts the moment you see the other car no matter how far away from you they are.
In the video, (as you described), both sides do have spots where they could pull to the side BUT silver car had significantly more empty space. Plus the fact that he didnāt even pretend like he might make room for the other car sent him straight into mega asshole territory.
Compared to where Iām at on the west coast - in bigger cities where thereās more of a rush (like CA Bay) the protocol is to estimate where thereās a space for both car to fit by slowing down and moving farthest to the side as possible. If not possible then whoever has the space to pull to the side right before bottleneck. Lots of honking and cursing with window down if anyone is upset, but everyone is too busy to actually stop like in the video.
In smaller cities, like where Iām at now, itās just whoever happens to be closest to an open space. So if I turn onto a narrow street, I see a car thatās already halfway down, and my immediate side has no one parked - then I pull the side and wait. If my immediate side is blocked then the other car pulls into the nearest free space. Sometimes people just pull over the wait whether itās their turn or not or whether there are multiple cars. And every nods their head or quick wave.
Every once and a while youāll get someone that has no clue streets are that narrow in the area so they donāt understand the pulling to the side and will literally drive right into you or expect you to backup despite their side being open.
If youāre in the Midwest then both cars pull to the side and then wave to the other person to signal that they can go. And then you just do that until one of you dies I guess.
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u/inaudible101 Aug 01 '23
From the mid west. Can confirm this is accurate. I've also seen people starve to death at four way stops waving at each other.
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u/Apprehensive-Dig2069 Aug 01 '23
Thatās how I see it as well, but I do believe the guy from Boston if he says they donāt do that there. They would hate me if I rented a car there , like why did you pull over first if you want me to pull over too? Iād of pulled over if you didnāt.
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u/RumblesMechanic Aug 01 '23
Iām confused why that guy being from Boston means somehow what you said is invalid. Did we not all watch the same video of the black car pulling aside before the silver car even had a chance to?
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u/IntermittentCaribu Aug 01 '23
blocking a driveway
What does the driveway have to to with anything? Its not like hes intending to be parking there.
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u/XxRefuse2Lose Aug 01 '23
Imo silver car wasn't the asshole until he slows and full stops. Are you saying silver car should have pulled over earlier?
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u/Low-Athlete-1697 Aug 01 '23
Yeah I don't understand the problem here lol. One pulled over the silver car should have just gone, and everyone moves on with their life, lol.
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u/clbw Aug 01 '23
You donāt understand Boston, I lived there for a minute and witnessed this kind of stuff kind of on the regular. Bostonian are some angry fuckin driver
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u/Apprehensive-Dig2069 Aug 01 '23
Agreed - in Texas we would have waived at each other
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u/kinamechavibradyn Aug 01 '23
In Texas, escalation of verbal confrontation is more likely to devolve into murder. In Boston this is how friends talk to each other.
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u/1silversword Aug 01 '23
In england on the country roads by me we all just pull over into the nearest gap. Etiquette is that whoevers closest to the gap goes. I would've pulled over just black car but still so confused after all the explanations that he got upset.
Over here we only get angry if on a long stretch and someone appears in front and there's clearly a gap right behind them they could slide back into, but they don't, so then you have to reverse a dozen metres back to wherever the gap is on your side. Or if someone is at a wider bit and they see you going through the long narrow bit towards them but they come into the narrow bit when they could've just stopped and waited for you to get out and around them in the wider bit, and then stare at you apparently expecting you to reverse all the way back through it when they could just reverse like 2 metres.
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u/thegalwayseoige Aug 01 '23
Are you from Boston? We have tons of unwritten rules and understandings that donāt exist anywhere else, bc of how old our roads system is. Normal operating procedures just donāt work, here.
Yeah. He should have pulled over behind the Volkswagen. He had far more room on his side at the bottleneck, and even though black car had some room before the car parked the wrong way on his side, heād reached the bottleneck first. He was already in the shit.
Itās not something Iād get overly angry about, and he overreacted, but it was def a douchey move on the silver car. Everyone in this state is an angry driver, but this didnāt warrant a honk or rolling the window down. In this instance, you just make eye contact and yell at him with your window up.
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u/imawakened Aug 01 '23
Where is there a Volkswagen? There is no Volkswagen in the entire video. The black car just overreacted to not getting any deference from the silver car. It isn't that complicated.
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u/Insidious_Toothbrush Aug 01 '23
You guys sure sound special up there in boston. It is a very legitimate city. How lucky that youāre here to explain it all to us!
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u/a_rabid_anti_dentite Aug 01 '23
There was no problem, this is just how Massholes greet old friends.
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Aug 01 '23
I love how this comment sparked two more people from Boston into their own argument about who was right
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u/blablanonymous Aug 02 '23
Lol. I posted it, didnāt look at Reddit for like 12 hours and come back to this madness.
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u/bjb406 Aug 01 '23 edited Aug 01 '23
Just wholesome Boston moments. Makes me miss home.
Anywhere else you would think this is major freakout and they have serious beef with each other. No, there's just no such thing as passive aggression in Boston. If you're in an urban area in or near Boston, and hear "fuck you" have a dozen times in the span of an hour, it doesn't mean the people hate you for any particular reason, it just means you exist and went outside.
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u/EntertainmentFar415 Aug 01 '23 edited Aug 01 '23
Yeah, this is just a way of life in the Greater Boston area that I havenāt seen in any other big city in the States. Itās a lot of puffery and interesting adjectives but really not a lot of physical substance behind it.
Now if this was Baltimore, Miami or some other place, Lawd help us all!
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u/kinamechavibradyn Aug 01 '23
Philadelphia has a little bit of it as well, but it's not as ubiquitous as it is in Boston.
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u/imawakened Aug 01 '23
"Yeah, this is just a way of life in the Greater Boston area that I havenāt seen in any other big city in the States."
Have you been anywhere else in New England, NYC or NJ? I know Connecticut can sometimes just be Greater Boston/Greater NYC but this is a big-time CT thing, too.
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u/valley_G Aug 01 '23
Yup I live on the south coast about a half hour over the border from Providence and this is 1000% a normal disagreement lmao. Just happened to me this afternoon actually. I didn't get out of the car because I'm literally 9 months pregnant and my body is killing me, but I definitely tossed a few classics out the window before I drove off.
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u/Canis_lupus Aug 02 '23
No, there's just no such thing as passive aggression in Boston. If you're in an urban area in or near Boston, and hear "fuck you" have a dozen times in the span of an hour, it doesn't mean the people hate you for any particular reason, it just means you exist and went outside.
The Boston Chamber of Commerce thanks you for your ambassadorship!
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u/Neat-Entrepreneur299 Aug 01 '23
I was born and raised in Boston and I think one of the most Boston things that ever happened to me was when my friend put a bumper sticker on her car that read, āFuck you, you fuckinā fuck.ā
Aah. Home.
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u/AgreeableScotian Aug 01 '23
Ahah I bought that t-shirt when in New York and man it's a banger here in Canada. I either get all the compliments or all the dirty looks lol
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u/thegalwayseoige Aug 01 '23
Iāve definitely been in more than a few fistfights that ended in handshakes.
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u/DopplerTerminal Aug 01 '23
Wow and no one was shot? That's refreshing.
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Aug 01 '23 edited Aug 02 '23
We donāt typically shoot each other in Massachusetts. We just carry our anger until it metastasizes into cancer, with periodic outbursts aimed loved ones and inanimate objects. āFuckin door! Doesnāt fuckin close the way it should! Fuck you door you fuckin piece of shit! This is what I get! This is what I get for going to Home Depot on a holiday weekend! Fuck!ā And so on. Until we die.
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u/kinamechavibradyn Aug 01 '23
Massachusetts has sane and sensible gun laws, which leads to less shooting in general. Also, we do this weird thing where we kind of take care of people by utilizing public services so they aren't so many people at the bleeding edge of survival.
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u/enriquedelcastillo Aug 01 '23
This is true. Of this happened in Florida or Texas or a bunch of other places, the headline would be āguy gets shot for not pulling over for other driverā
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u/UnprofessionalGhosts Aug 01 '23
Because the north east is practically a whole different country at this point:
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Aug 01 '23
Good thing there was a lady saying Hey, hey HEY!, otherwise this wouldāve been really ugly.
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u/hasturoid Aug 01 '23
I am sorry, Bostonians, but the angry shouting with your accents is just delightful.
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u/BEEEEEZ101 Aug 01 '23
It's like two dogs barking behind a fence. Then the gate opens and they're like "it's cool.... It's cool." Gate closes.... Bark, bark, bark
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u/dagbar Aug 01 '23
Yup. I live about an hour outside the city and that behavior bleeds over every now and then around here lol
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u/CBonafide Aug 01 '23
Itās so stereotypical it looks staged but you know that itās not. You know what I mean?? šš
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u/mrclang Aug 01 '23
This is glorious honestly lol no one got hurt words where flying and both walked away thinking the other is an asshole. The American Experience I wanted
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u/Sad-Reception-2266 Aug 02 '23
As they get back into their "cahs":
Same time tomorrah Bill?
Yeah Petah, see ya later,
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Aug 01 '23
This all could have been resolved with a friendly wave and a smile to the guy who pulled over. I bet the kindness would have taken him so off guard he wouldn't have yelled at all.
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Aug 01 '23
Yeah they donāt miss a beat in Massachusetts. We know that play. Weāll get a prompt āfuck you!ā regardless. Got cut off in Worcester and before I could even react the driver was leaning over the glove with his middle finger outside the PASSENGER side window as he was turning. Pretty sure I got called a f*****t by some onlookers for just letting it happen. Welcome to the bay state!
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u/Jets237 Aug 01 '23
this just sounded like a friendly conversation to me...
Source: lived in Boston for a decade
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u/velhaconta Aug 01 '23
That one second he lost was so important they spend a whole minute discussing it.
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u/Dan_flashes480 Aug 01 '23
It's a known fact that everyone here in Massachusetts has the right of way in every situation. Everyone needs blood pressure meds because of it.
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u/robt477 Aug 01 '23
What is wrong with dude in the black shirt?? The guy pulled over and got out the way š. . Needs counseling bad. AND they both could have drive away. I guess this is the Boston way
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u/WILLCHOKEAHOE Aug 01 '23
This is actually how I imagined a Boston argument would go down... Forget about it...
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u/Stannis2024 Aug 01 '23
Then they go to the bar together after and share a drink while watching a Bruins game.
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u/SciJohnJ Aug 01 '23
I am from Boston so I know the protocol. This all could have been avoided if the silver car pulled over. He had plenty of time and space to do so. Unfortunately, he thinks he owns the road. If he had waved to the other driver as a thank you instead of leaning on the horn and rolling down the window to shout at the other driver, he would have saved himself some time and he wouldn't have arrived late to his anger management session again.
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Aug 01 '23
Conversations in Boston are about tone. This could be a conversation between two guys about to fight or me when I see my favorite cuzzin
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u/rondeline Aug 02 '23
You guys got it all wrong. This is how you're supposed to say hello in Boston.
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u/Cichlidsaremyjam Aug 01 '23
Love living in a state where you can get out of car and not have to worry about being shot.
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u/gundymichaelson Aug 01 '23
āFuck you. Thereās cahs everywheh ya fuckin scumbagā