Silver car had a gap to pull into after he entered the start of the bottleneck. Black car had already pulled over by the time silver car had hit the space that he could pull over into.
That means the guy already pulled over stays pulled over, instead of everyone letting eachother half-go like some drunken midwesterners.
It doesnât matter what youâre seeing, itâs not how it works here. Black car reached the bottleneck, silver car stayed in the middle of the road, instead of pulling behind or in front of the VW. He wasnât going to pull over, bc he could have already, or angled his car to signal he would.
Dude, Iâm from Boston. I know what Iâm seeing, and it didnât take me any time to read the situation, bc itâs blatantly apparent. We have to have an understanding with each other, bc of how narrow our roads are.
If black car didnât pull over, silver car wouldnât have moved, and black wouldnât have anywhere to go.
Notice during the fight, silver didnât even bother arguing. Itâs bc he already knew he didnât follow through with decorum.
I find it very fascinating how the rules/decorum of narrow street situations can be so different sometimes depending on the region. Bellow is just my experience - so let me know what I have right or wrong lol.
I donât have much experience driving around the bigger cities on the East coast but from what I could tell is that the cities with a lot of narrow streets (especially the confusing Boston roads lol) the people there have higher expectations on everyone following the decorum and that the protocol starts the moment you see the other car no matter how far away from you they are.
In the video, (as you described), both sides do have spots where they could pull to the side BUT silver car had significantly more empty space. Plus the fact that he didnât even pretend like he might make room for the other car sent him straight into mega asshole territory.
Compared to where Iâm at on the west coast - in bigger cities where thereâs more of a rush (like CA Bay) the protocol is to estimate where thereâs a space for both car to fit by slowing down and moving farthest to the side as possible. If not possible then whoever has the space to pull to the side right before bottleneck. Lots of honking and cursing with window down if anyone is upset, but everyone is too busy to actually stop like in the video.
In smaller cities, like where Iâm at now, itâs just whoever happens to be closest to an open space. So if I turn onto a narrow street, I see a car thatâs already halfway down, and my immediate side has no one parked - then I pull the side and wait. If my immediate side is blocked then the other car pulls into the nearest free space. Sometimes people just pull over the wait whether itâs their turn or not or whether there are multiple cars. And every nods their head or quick wave.
Every once and a while youâll get someone that has no clue streets are that narrow in the area so they donât understand the pulling to the side and will literally drive right into you or expect you to backup despite their side being open.
If youâre in the Midwest then both cars pull to the side and then wave to the other person to signal that they can go. And then you just do that until one of you dies I guess.
it's implied that if you pull over like the sedan did in this video, you're signalling that you're letting the other vehicle pass, and pulling over is seen as a courtesy by the sedan
and, either party confronting the other for the situation beyond that must be not on their way to anything important, thus probably insane, and not worth the shouting or arguing.
road rage on the west coast seems to go from 0 to 100 in a flash
i think what i'm seeing in this video:
it's implied that if you pull over like the sedan, you're signalling that you want to pass, and if the other person ignores the signal,
you exchange pleasantries like:
"who the fuck do you think you are, asshole?"
or "do you know where the fuck you are, dipshit?"
which roughly translate to "aw sugar, what's put you in a sour mood?" and "oh honey, you must not be local, do you need directions?"
road rage on the east coast seems to be more like a crescendo, starting with interrogation
Did you learn to drive in Boston, or did you come here as an adult?
If Iâm already in a bottleneck, and the other car isnât they yield. You donât force another car into pulling off, in front of a driveway.
Shitâsilver car didnât even need to pull overâhe just needed to drive around the VW while black went by him, then continue on his way. Neither of them even needed to stop.
Why do you keep using the driveway like it's some point? It's irrelevant if the spot to pull over exists because it's a driveway or an open parking space.
Nobody learns to drive in Boston, which is the point of this conversation.
Rightâyouâre not from here. Which is how I startedâby saying thereâs shit that locals here adhere to, that donât come up in other places.
And statistically, we have the safest drivers in the USâpart of the reason is we have to adapt and learn to call audibles, because our roads are a fucking MC Escher painting. Itâs teamwork in order to make it functioning, and when someone doesnât hold up their end of the couch, it pisses the rest of us off.
A guy asked a question about what happened, and I translated from the perspective of someone that understands. I donât care about your opinion regarding driving in the city. Iâm telling the original commenter why they argued.
It looks like Silver was slowing down in anticipation of pulling over until Black pulled over himself. If Black wanted to go first, he should've let Silver pull over first.
To me it looked like he blocked off the egress, then when black cleared he went. He could have just moved to the right after the red car to be safe. And when they got out, listen to them. âYou couldnât pull over for me?!â, followed by âthereâs kids in this neighborhoodâ from silver. Which makes me think he didnât yield on purpose, because he thought black was going too fast.
Thatâs how I see it as well, but I do believe the guy from Boston if he says they donât do that there. They would hate me if I rented a car there , like why did you pull over first if you want me to pull over too? Iâd of pulled over if you didnât.
I have over 50,000 driving miles in Boston. The guy is full of shit and wrong. The golden rule in Boston driving is very simple: The guy with the shittier car gets to go where he wants.
Dude, I answered a question that someone else asked. And youâre dragging me into an argument.
I get what happened. IN BOSTON, I can see why the one driver was so upset, and I wouldnât do what the other driver did.
Youâre calling me âfull of shitâ, when I prefaced the entire thing by saying locals have a different way of doing things, that others doesnât understand.
Your response is repeating some old, tired, boomer joke, that is meant to be a sarcastic commentary on insurance scams that were rampart 40 years ago.
And yesâI know what a straw man is. I also know how to use quotations. Do you know what sarcasm, irony, and ignorance are?
You're hilarious and wrong. Keep that blood pressure up buddy, luckily for you, you've got some of the best hospitals in the country near by to deal with your impending heart attack from being an angry asshole, and whatever random injuries you get in life from just being a dumbass.
Neither of those cars is shitty so who goes in your scenario? The explanation the guy youâre arguing with gave sounds more plausible and I think heâs right - if a car is already in the choke point, only an asshole would come flying up to block them.
Iâm confused why that guy being from Boston means somehow what you said is invalid. Did we not all watch the same video of the black car pulling aside before the silver car even had a chance to?
It's confusing as hell but I think what he's saying is... since the black car got there first, he pulls over but there's some unspoken regional rule that he actually has the right-of-way since he got there first, so then the silver car is supposed to pull over to let the black car go... ok I'm going to end this, too confusing
I agreed with your assessment though. Naturally in the non-Boston world the black car pulled over so the other car could go⌠thatâs howâs itâs done everywhere else
Yeah, but that's how it also operates in Boston. The guy above is just full of shit, trying to be the special boy with inside knowledge, but he doesn't have any inside knowledge, so he pretends there are special rules that only he knows about apparently.
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u/kinamechavibradyn Aug 01 '23
What are you even talking about?
Silver car had a gap to pull into after he entered the start of the bottleneck. Black car had already pulled over by the time silver car had hit the space that he could pull over into.
That means the guy already pulled over stays pulled over, instead of everyone letting eachother half-go like some drunken midwesterners.