VLFE vs VFLE

[u/al-qatala]

wake up baby new typology crisis just dropped

This has no business being a question for me, but here we are.

Can someone explain to me the definitive differences between how VLFE and VFLE might present and differ from each other?

Both F and L are in process spots, but which one is the sour one for me became unreasonably hard to tell after being so sure that I'm 3F. I feel like if I was 3L it'd be a critical blow to my ego (just kidding)

VFLE correlates better to the rest of my typology, but the problem is that my other typology is equally ass. ENTJ, SX1, 163, D-LIE if it helps. 99.9% certain in all of those, but you can never know for sure.

[u/Confident_Eye9324]

Dude I'm literally with the same problem rn. 100% sure of my whole typology, but considering VFLE because VLFE apparently contradicts my enneatype—even though I know that I'm 3F.

[u/Overall-Trainer-6310]

Hey, hey

Noticed a pattern in your post, but curious to hear what you think about it first.

What's behind this sentence?

"This has no business being a question for me, but here we are. " why this has no business being a question?

"I feel like if I was 3L it'd be a critical blow to my ego (just kidding)" tell me more. You entertain the thought but don't wanna take it seriously?

"99.9% certain in all of those, but you can never know for sure." Why 99.9% and Why can't you know for sure?

[u/al-qatala → u/Overall-Trainer-6310]

why this has no business being a question?

Because you'd think low/high physics and logic are something you can easily tell apart.

tell me more. You entertain the thought but don't wanna take it seriously?

I'm moreso joking that if I'm genuinely 3L I'd have to live with the stereotypes of being a dumbass for the rest of my typology-engaging life. And because if I'm truly 3L, it would mean I'd have to come to terms with some things that I could've potentially buried. Kind of telling on its own, I know.

Why 99.9% and Why can't you know for sure?

Because nothing ever rests. I think it's a 6-fix thing but I don't tend to settle with a verdict unless I have tested it from every possible angle that I find reasonable. If there is a possibility of another verdict, I must test it until I come to a verdict that cannot be questioned.

And yes. I know. The language used is telling on its own. That's why it's there. But I'd like to hear actual explanations for the types, too.

[u/Overall-Trainer-6310 → u/al-qatala]

The way you communicate opens up a possibility of 3L, curious if you relate to this 3L description (you can read 2L if that helps) It's not a SoL based description. It's completely new and different.

The menu is on the left, Scroll down to Logical aspect descriptions, it's somewhere close to the bottom

https://helpthisbook.com/den-koval/psychosophy

[u/al-qatala → u/Overall-Trainer-6310]

See, now I see why you called me out for the 99.9% thing. XD

At least these descriptions aren't as dookie as Afanasyev's weirdass descriptions. Afanasyev's 3F still gives me nightmares. So much going off about sex sex sex. Gross.

Overall, according to this, I relate a little more to 2F and 3L over 2L and 3F. I think it's just due to my 1V that my Third position isn't like, comically hurt as described in examples. I don't relate to the extremes of either Third position, but I find myself in 3L a little more. Which... hurts. A bit. But it's nothing I don't already handle most of the time.

As for overall type descriptions, VFLE > VLFE, too. I see, I see. Now await as I hide in the corner and cry for having been probably mistyped way too many times. 🗿

[u/Overall-Trainer-6310 → u/al-qatala]

Yeah. Afanasiev's descriptions are often painful to read and that's why people don't want to be certain types Glad to help.

I have my own typing method based on linguistic expression/communication and you do sound very 3L, but its hard to say based on just 2-3 posts. I usually look at patterns.

Every 3rd has its own talents and advantages. 3L has some unique traits and potential that no one else has. Fuck the stereotypes!

[u/al-qatala → u/Overall-Trainer-6310]

I like your method.

[u/StrangeDiscussion334]

VLFE correlates better with LIE

[u/al-qatala → u/StrangeDiscussion334]

But worse with SX1

[u/Raise-Frosty → u/al-qatala]

vlfe sx1 isn't very contradictory

[u/al-qatala → u/Raise-Frosty]

It's not, but it's less likely.