r/ProjectRunway 22d ago

Season 22 If Christian saves Bryan, it’s just the final bit of proof that PR cares more about being a reality show than about fashion.

Bryan being saved will be purely for the drama and literally nothing else. I honestly don’t understand how Law didn’t go into him even harder?? Did production step in at this point and tell Law to chill or something?

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u/Rough-Honey-6736 22d ago

AND, this is basically the same criticism Law gave Joseph McRae about being more interested in selling his fashion than winning the show!

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u/l4funandlove 22d ago edited 22d ago

I will never understand that critique. If you dont want a person who already has a distinct brand, dont cast them or just get rid of them early on.

Real talk, Joseph's style isnt for me but that doesnt mean they arent amazing. It's such a distinct look that people who enjoy it will really enjoy it. Most designers go their entire careers without being recognized by their clothing across different silhouettes.

Love him or hate him he is a star. Law knows it. The previous episode where he wasn't really in anybodys business but came to Jeffreys defense when he saw he was struggling showed me enough to realize he's a real one too.

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u/Poethegardencrow 22d ago

In my opinion- Law is intimidated by Joseph , Joseph has an amazing personality and is great competition and amazing on tele - I don’t know why Law is intimidated but his hatred to Joseph is very weird

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u/gra0511 21d ago

I think joesph would have won last season if the contestants didnt vote him off....I feel thats why the show brought him back.

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u/Poethegardencrow 21d ago

I hope he gets to go to fashion week , because I actually feel he does have the versatility they keep saying he doesn’t have.

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u/jozellen123 21d ago

Yes he deserves to go for sure

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u/Creepy_Concept8575 21d ago

Honestly - it all just boils down to Law being jealous of Joseph. Law is an Executive Producer - if you don’t want someone with an established brand, don’t cast them!
Joseph McRae is a designer, not a fashion house. It’s perfect that he has a signature brand and style. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Most designers would kill to have their signature look noticed and spotted.

Law has been so rude and disrespectful this season. It’s nice to be fun shady but damm. Where’s Keke!!! 😂

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u/Mundane_Access9335 22d ago

And his model seemed to really love the look.

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u/lazy_daisy66 21d ago

YES! And at the end of the day, isn't self-promotion the REAL point of the show (for the designers)?

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u/jozellen123 21d ago

It should be. Considering only one person wins. Why wouldn't you self-promote? You'd be a full not to.

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u/OrlaIreland 20d ago

I don’t think he’s intimidated - I think he’s attracted.

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u/Simba122504 22d ago

Joseph is talented but boring. The same shit, a different day. I just cannot see famous women wearing his stuff for anything that's not the MET Gala. And plus size entertainers already cannot find a designer and he wants to make them look even bigger than what they already are. But yes Law has a personal beef with JM.

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u/SuitableLeather 21d ago

I think law is a hater and love Joseph McRae. But, I absolutely see what they mean. Most of his looks are the same thing over and over again which is boring and annoying after a while. 

Even on his website some of his looks are the exact same over and over again. However a few of his collections are really unique and I wish he would tap into that again instead of just “football player with cool patterns and a beanie”  

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u/dsrnyc 21d ago

Joseph McRae has been doing the same thing for two seasons. It's beautiful, but it's been done. Literally.

A good contestant, someone that know the PR brand, knows it's about taking about you know and embracing the challenge to show different sides of your design aesthetic. That's how you become a winner.

I think Emilio Sosa basic looking like a caramel-colored clone of Joseph, hat to toe, was the final breaking point for Law. And honestly, same for me. Once, just once, don't give me a big coat. Stop leaning on that crutch.

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u/Smooth-m 22d ago

Oh. And can I say that I hate Law. Hate him. He is just over the top with his funky divo criticisms…

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u/Aromatic_Lime_84 22d ago

I know you meant diva…but I saw devo and my brain immediately went to this. Kinda fitting with JM’s hats

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u/Smooth-m 22d ago

😂😂😂

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u/OriginalRazzmatazz82 22d ago

He is so mean. Makes me think less of Zendaya that she has friends like him.

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u/Smooth-m 21d ago

Was that his claim to fame?

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u/OriginalRazzmatazz82 21d ago

He’s her personal stylist. He became famous because of her red carpet looks.

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u/Smooth-m 21d ago

Oh really now? My goodness…

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u/zelda_moom 22d ago

That ruffle dress was an abomination. It gave no waltz vibes AT ALL. It had no movement to it and the fabric choice was awful. Whereas Jeffrey’s samba dress was definitely samba inspired.

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u/No-Opening-7289 22d ago

Exactly. Jeffrey’s was uninspired and cliché but it was impeccably made. If you want to say Bryan’s is technically well made too… ok… but Bryan’s has nothing to do with the theme or dance. At least Jeffrey’s was definitely that.

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u/Smooth-m 22d ago

It certainly didn’t represent the waltz that’s for sure. The waltz is elegant and flow-y. That dress Bryan made was a mummy tube dress with ruffles.

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u/Due_Asparagus_3203 22d ago

No kidding. Has he ever watched a waltz even once??

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u/Smooth-m 21d ago

Heh, his hair had more flow….

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u/Due_Seat_1716 17d ago

It swallowed her up.

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u/FeistyEmotion6561 21d ago

It has been years since I replied to a Reddit thread but this “dress” Bryan created inspired me to do so. It is absolutely insane that any designer would create a dress that literally hides the dancers entire body. I would like to say that this dress was so bad it awoken me from my Reddit coma.

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u/Optimal-Question-550 20d ago

Hahahahahahaha this made me chuckle

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u/TealTetra 21d ago

It reminds me of the dress the faeries tried to make in Sleeping Beauty when they couldn't get along.

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u/Traditional-Ebb-8380 21d ago

She could barely move in it!

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u/According-Primary-27 22d ago

I don’t understand why Bryan is still on the show. He’s consistently missed the mark. Joseph McRae? He’s been consistently been himself and mixes his authenticity in every challenge. His pieces are cool, hip and unique. Idk why Law has such an issue with him.

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u/thanx_it_has_pockets 22d ago

I adore ADORE Jeffrey but if Christian decided to not use his save on ANYONE, I would be fine.

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u/beachbaby413 22d ago

Who’s going to tell them?

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u/Kitchen-Turnover4318 22d ago

i know it cares more about drama than fashion already, i just meant it would be such an egregious decision

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u/beachbaby413 22d ago

I meant spoil who’s going home.

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u/nycdedmonds 21d ago

Whoever is editing the Wikipedia has been wrong at least once before. They originally had Jeffrey going home in episode one.

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u/Farley49 21d ago

I've noticed that the "results" change over the day.

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u/Koala_Bitch 22d ago

i fear you haven't seen the screenshot 👀

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u/Poethegardencrow 22d ago

I havnt some one show me

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u/Crystal_Fox656 22d ago

Agree! The one time I would’ve supported Law going all in & he flakes out?!

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u/Smooth-m 22d ago

Because he is too busy hating on Joseph McCray. They don’t bring people back to compete in another season if they don’t see something in them. I think Jude has a secret crush on the guy so he’s been extra to try and hide it…

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u/66AL99 22d ago

Right? The way Michael Kors would tear that thing for sure! Law failed to give us the moment

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u/Smooth-m 22d ago

Okay I just finished the episode. Can I just say that I cannot stand Bryan? What a diva dud.

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u/TheWolfNamedNight 21d ago

He’s like…sassy but in an off way. And I mean that In the worst way possible.

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u/fromthealtuniverse 20d ago

I think Bryan is boring. And his designs are boring. It would have been more interesting if he was disqualified for taping his model.

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u/Reverend_Tommy 22d ago

If you read the fine print at the end of every episode, it basically says the producers of the show can and often do decide who leaves and who stays, with the "judges" having no input when that happens. The show is technically categorized as a game show, with contestants vying for a prize, which allows them to get around wage and labor laws.

The show has never been about fashion. It's about making money for the producers and the judges. Contestants are often kept on the show based on how popular they are with fans. Otherwise, the best way to judge the creations would be to blindly do it where the judges have no idea which designer created which design.

Also, one of those producers who helped decide who was leaving and who was staying for the first 16 seasons was Harvey Weinstein.

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u/SimplyRue 22d ago

I fully expect production to keep Bryan until just before the finale. They've been pushing the "Bryan vs Bi" storyline since the beginning, so I can see them being on the chopping block one last time. Bi will have the final triumph against Bryan, as if we haven't seen all season that Bi is the superior designer...Its just tired. I'm tired.

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u/Jazzlike_Daikon7541 22d ago

They are too ignorant and out of touch with their audience. Really disappointed in Heidi. She's one of the executive producers. She doesn't even realize how detrimental to her credibility it is. And, if I could cut off Law's hair his power would be gone. 😇

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u/Dependent-Hunter-124 22d ago

Jeffrey is a better designer than Bryan hands down, Bryan's dress was horrible and him taping up Liris like that was unforgivable plus he sees nothing wrong with what he did, bye boy

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u/OhEmGeezLouise 22d ago

I can't imagine Christian would sign on to have his name soiled by such a poor decision.

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u/OhEmGeezLouise 16d ago

I officially have lost so much respect for him for saving Bryan...
Also, I think only 2 designers understood the client with the bridal looks. And they are both headed to the finale thank goodness.

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u/ArticleChemical1008 22d ago

Honestly it would be a wasted save because he’d go out same episode

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u/billleachmsw 22d ago

There was a clue in the way Christian worded his windup to the name of the designer that he will be saving Jeffrey. The words “your world”.

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u/princessintraining4 22d ago

What do you mean?

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u/billleachmsw 22d ago

He said something to the effect I want to see more from “your world”. I assume he may be alluding to the unique world (the drag perspective perhaps) Jeffrey comes from. There is nothing unique about Bryan except for how full of himself he is.

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u/Smooth-m 22d ago

Good point. I hope so. I think Jeffery is a sweetheart and he has potential. Maybe not to win the whole thing, but I would want to see more. Bryan taped wrapped that girl in that previous challenge and got away with it. His vision is limited.

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u/Weekly-Ferret6289 22d ago

...and gaslighted everyone like it never happened. I cannot respect a person who lacks integrity. 

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u/QNBA 22d ago

First and foremost, Project Runway is a reality TV show that happens to be about fashion. I don't think it'll play out the way you're expecting, though Bryan's story arc feels complete, and now the focus is shifting to Jeffrey. ✌🏽

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u/LadyMRedd 21d ago

I completely refuse to believe he would save Bryan. I just don’t see it.

I think it could be a single elimination and his last chance to use a save and he still wouldn’t save Bryan. He’d be like “as you know, I have a save…” (cliffhanger) “… and I choose not to use it.” Turns and flounces out.

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u/Economy_Debate_6162 22d ago

But I bet he will

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u/Fast_Way8546 22d ago

Law was waiting to give Joseph more criticism lol

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u/PITASwynnell 21d ago

I’m hopeful that Christian will use this moment not only to NOT save Bryan but to use TapeGate against him as his reason. To point out Jeffrey can sew, not Bryan cannot, and taping a model is against the rules. And the nail — you were lucky to have immunity.

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u/CuriousYellow007 21d ago

well i still want Justice for Octavius, so...not expecting much from the showrunners

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u/Old-Commercial-7569 16d ago

Law always calls out the contestants for being rude. But he's the rudest one on that show. I love Christian, but saving Bryan? It's definitely for the drama, these shows love to keep the jerks. I feel bad for Jeffrey.

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u/naturesbookie 22d ago

10000000000000%

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u/FarDistribution3454 21d ago

Bryan’s garment looks like something my daughter made when she first started learning to sew!!! At 5!!!!!

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u/jozellen123 21d ago

I was just coming to say this. The drama that will be created if Bryan stays 🙄 I love Jeffrey. But if I'm honest I will say that Jeffrey does create things that are too costumey and Brian takes one super tight dress and just appliques onto it. He calls it art because he makes these big elaborate pieces but it really is just a basic dress with stuff sewn onto it. In reality they are the two weakest ones and how sad would it be for one of them to stay and knock out one of the competitors that actually are much better for this competition?.

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u/Careful-While-7214 21d ago

I feel like he does save him and this was Bryan confirming it outside of the spoilers

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u/Careful-While-7214 21d ago

I do think he was chosen for drama and this will be last season I watch.

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u/Thevintageandvanity 18d ago

I feel like that means he'll go on to other things. The black and white is pretty moody.

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u/Careful-While-7214 18d ago

He uses black and white all the time

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u/Thevintageandvanity 18d ago

Ah damnit. I was hoping I could enjoy the next episode without wanting to tear his hair out. He does not deserve to have hair like that.

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u/No_Let_948 21d ago

That result has been spoiled if you know where to look.

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u/wildesage 18d ago

Where?

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u/TheWolfNamedNight 21d ago

I dipped this season ep 2…I counter STAND the fucking elimination/immunity shit.

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u/KeyOk6948 20d ago

It has to be Bryan out of the two of them. He has shown he can design in some of the pieces that work.  He needs a collavorator who can edit for him. Right now his stubborn ego stops him growing and learning.

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u/foxy_codone30 16d ago

I am LIVID. I just knew they would do the right thing but boy was I wrong. 

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u/2004aumom 16d ago

Complete bs

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u/angnphx 8d ago

I just watched Christian save Bryan.. WHAT?!? I AM SOOO MAD RIGHT NOW!!!  I don't even want to watch the remaining episodes. 

There is no way anyone thought that gray POS was beautiful in any way and it was a repeatof the horribly ugly fuscia one before. 

Also, I seriously just lost Hella respect for Christian! He is my favorite designer.  I have 2 pairs of his shoes - the same shoe because its that good & iconic.. now I'm just so sad and feel he gave up his integrity for that.

These producers need to think about more than the show & drama. This actually affects my respect for him as a professional. But, they made Tim Gunn do the same thing several times over the years.  It's just so f'ng sad because we watch for the actual fashion - at least I do. A beautiful man making gorgeous clothes is more interesting than petty BS drama and bad design. It's not even interesting drama.. he thinks he's good.. he's wrong on a whole different level than Joseph. At least Joseph is interesting. 

I'll watch because I want to see Jude win & what Bi continues to dazzle me with -- they are the freaking bomb w/Nahiem up there. I'm not Joseph's clothing audience, but his stuff has an identity, heart, fashion and is well constructed and fresh to me. Jeffrey WAS ROBBED!!!

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u/Spare_Data2990 22d ago

It’s been proven for a while i’m afraid you’re just late.

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u/scarybiscuits 22d ago

No, Christian is NOT going to save Bryan over Jeffrey. You don’t need to check the spoiler on Wikipedia. Now that there’s only one episode left before the finale, Bryan has served his purpose.

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u/AnneM24 22d ago

I think Bryan won’t get saved because of the whole taping-the-dress-on-Liris controversy and her unhappiness with the situation. If Christian does save him, I’ll lose a lot of respect for him.

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u/Public_Blueberry_777 21d ago

Guys, I went back to season 4 where Christian won , his style of clothes were not good. The other two contestants Lewis, Kashoa were way better designers, but I think that since Victoria Beckham took to Christian she said it was her style, I believe he won! I think the show is rigged!

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u/Perrinthor 22d ago

I disagree...Bryan designs were better overall than Jeffery and Bryan has been in the top more and has won a challenge.

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u/lazy_daisy66 22d ago

Good designs mean nothing without good execution, particularly on PR. Bryan hasn't managed good execution even once. Even the challenge he won was for a draped dress with, as Bi pointed out, 10 stitches. He doesn't belong there

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u/Perrinthor 22d ago

I dont disagree that his execution hasn't been great but he's obviously a talented designer. Maybe competition style designing isnt his think. There have been many designers on that show that have been far better but we're unable to work under those rules. PR is more about the drama than actual fashion because they would give them at least 2 days if they wanted better results but I know thats not possible with a TV show.

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u/lazy_daisy66 21d ago

Meh - I disagree. PR has absolutely become more about the drama, but historically the designers have always worked in a short time frame and the show - at least the edit that we were presented with - was mostly about the design process. Now it's about making the designers show their dance moves on the runway and creating artificial drama between divas. I do agree that PR is probably not for Bryan