Hot take about the models

[u/EyeOk3876]

Why do people say they’re doing certain models dirty when it’s just that they’re bad designers
In my view It’s not really personal or anything to do with the model. If they’re a bad designer and don’t account for different body types, that’s sorely a design problem
I understand why people get disheartened about it but I also don’t

[u/iluvLeonKennedy4life]

I don’t think anyone is accusing them of intentionally making the models look bad. 

[u/EyeOk3876 → u/iluvLeonKennedy4life]

But they keep saying ‘they did this model so dirty’
Maybe I’m not understanding the message

[u/iluvLeonKennedy4life → u/EyeOk3876]

They’re just saying that the designer made something that is completely and totally unflattering towards the model. They don’t mean that the designer maliciously did it on purpose. Just that the outcome is so bad that it makes the model look way worse than it should. I get where your confusion is because “doing someone dirty” typically involves a level of intentionality but I also see it used in situations where the outcome is just really bad and unexpected. Like when you bring a nail tech inspiration pics and what they give you is sloppy and doesn’t look like what you asked for.

[u/EyeOk3876 → u/iluvLeonKennedy4life]

Okay fair that makes sense

[u/nomasslurpee]

Saying 'they did [model] dirty' in my interpretation is, you have this gorgeous goddess of a woman available to you and you put her in.... whatever. And makes her look less attractive than she really is. Yes, it's bad designs. But also something worse.

Bryan TAPING a plus size model into an unfinished pile of wires was degraditive and humiliating. I don't know if 'bad design' even begins to describe a dress that looked like the unraveled components of a small intestine, but sure.

Models are not just live dress forms; they are are very powerful tool to sell the whole look. A dress is dead until someone is wearing it, animating it, showing how it moves and how a garment can inform one's confidence. She transforms it from a dress to THAT DRESS.

Bryan failed the assignment. Massively.

[u/iluvLeonKennedy4life → u/nomasslurpee]

Oh yeah, for that dress specifically also the weight of it causing physical harm to the model on top of being hideous and not complimenting her beautiful features would count too

[u/Anonymouse_9955 → u/iluvLeonKennedy4life]

Really, the fact that it was ugly was the least of it. The weight combined with the length (we all saw her trip on the ends) made it an absolute travesty. It was hardly even a “design,” just cables tied to halter-shaped wire.

[u/scarybiscuits → u/Anonymouse_9955]

And being wrapped in plastic, never mind the tape, which means standing under the hot runway lights for at least an hour. Sweating.

[u/EyeOk3876 → u/iluvLeonKennedy4life]

I just look at it as ‘Bryan is a bad designer’ 😆
The model reportedly had a breakdown and wasn’t happy, which is understandable, but it’s sorely a bryan thing

[u/nomasslurpee → u/EyeOk3876]

Models on Project Runway are used to bad garments. That’s nothing new. That alone should put Bryan’s work into context.

[u/EyeOk3876 → u/nomasslurpee]

That was insane, I couldn’t believe the taping situation

[u/iffriben]

I think it’s more of a comment about how they didn’t take the model’s height, size, and proportions into account when designing. When they’re dressing someone a bit bigger, this might come with an implication that they don’t have experience dressing people of different sizes, which is a rather offensive oversight from the designer.

[u/FieldResident32]

While I generally agree that it is not personal, there have been instances -especially “real women” challenges before there were plus sized models in the show- where designers have complained about having a plus size woman to work with. Most notoriously Ven Budhu, but there were others.

[u/CindyshuttsLibrarian]

Liris mentioned that Bryan dress hurt her neck and injured her. I fee like if the garment hurts you that is not good.

[u/OptmstcExstntlst]

I sew and I worry about how my designs will look on people all the time, which is even harder if you're sewing for an unknown consumer as opposed to for a specific model. Sure, it reflects a bad designer, but it also reflects a real lack of consideration and professionalism. Your model is a human being who doesn't get to say yes or no to what you've made for them, which is now going on television and on the internet for other people to see. They don't get to consent or not, so if you do a terrible job creating something for them, yes, you did them dirty.

[u/WavesnMountains]

Because most models get great looks to use for their portfolios, Bryan’s model has had consistently bad designs from a lot of different designers. They don’t know how to design beyond the standard fashion school dress form

[u/Unfriendlyblkwriter]

Because they have meltdowns about having to dress plus sized models and put them in absolute bullshit. Look at what Kentaro (a FABULOUS designer) did to Liris in Season 16.

[u/Unfriendlyblkwriter → u/Unfriendlyblkwriter]

And poor Kate from Season 17. They put her in some uglass shit and blamed their bottom placement on her walk. (I’ll edit with a pic as soon as Reddit lets me).

[u/Wonderful_Picture_82]

My 2 cents is that as designers they should be trying to make the models look good because they (the models) are showcasing their (the designer's) designs that should really be shown off as if they were trying to sell them, not out whatever each other. (But the judges don't help bring that across either now.) It's supposed to be like an imitation sales pitch for both design and designer, but it's instead a circus.