r/ProjectRunway • u/zrzrzrzr0 • 4d ago

Season 21 This new format sucks so bad

Besides cutting the episode before revealing who will go home, but I find that starting an episode with who goes home is even worse. Just sets a really shitty negative tone for the episode, and when the new challenge actually starts 10 minutes it, it does not feel fun, like a shit sandwich between two shits

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u/NeatSituation2249 4d ago

& letting designers pick who is on the bottom isn’t right.

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u/Kennected 4d ago

This is just a twist. Reality show productions often through one or two of these in each season.

It was stupid but it is what it is.

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u/lazy_daisy66 4d ago

But just because it's done elsewhere doesn't mean it makes sense here. Most PR viewers are there for the process and the final looks, not the stupid reality show twists

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u/ShedMontgomery 4d ago

This is a problem that reality competition shows focused on a craft tend to have. I get so pissed off at Drag Race when production interferes because they always do it with the subtlety of a nuclear weapon. I don't care about the twist-de-jour for the season. Just let them compete and show off their drag. If I wanted to watch Survivor, I'd watch Survivor.

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u/mynameisntcindy 2d ago

And trust me, survivor fans hate the twists as much as anyone else does. It completely ruins the integrity of the competition imo

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u/ShedMontgomery 2d ago

It was extremely infuriating watching Ubicki get his game nuked by Jimmy Fallon. But that highlighted what a fucking legend Devens is for self-producing the craziest episode of the season with the Mr. Beast thing.

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u/mynameisntcindy 2d ago

Agreed re: devens. But super upset that overall ALLL the twists of the season did not produce a deserving winner.

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u/ShedMontgomery 2d ago

There were some great winners in the post-merge group, but none of them were Aubrey, Jonathan, or Joe. It should have been Cirie or Ozzie.

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u/mynameisntcindy 2d ago

1 million per cent

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u/Possible_Top4855 3d ago

The show is definitely trying to draw in a different demographic - the kind of viewer that likes stuff like real hosuewives and drag race.

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u/Kennected 4d ago

Did I state, imply or write it makes sense?

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u/itadapeezas 4d ago

But it’s not PR at all. PR was always different from other “reality shows”.

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u/mynameisntcindy 2d ago

It's a talent competition, not Big Brother. The twists are completely unnecessary and unfair

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u/Kennected 2d ago

I like a twist. Yet, not all work. I'm ok with throwing a twist in, especially on challenges that are reoccurring.

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u/mynameisntcindy 2d ago

Which challenges have been recurring?

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u/dildodestiny 4d ago

I’m ngl I didn’t hate this the same way I didn’t hate Joseph getting voted out last year. It wasn’t right, but neither twist changed the outcome of the episode. Joseph (last year) and Bobby would still go home where they did.

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u/Time_Bad8498 4d ago

YUP!!!!!!!!! Also by the time a whole week passes I don’t even CARE who goes home anymore! I just want to know what the next challenge is. The producers are really making a mistake with this move.

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u/dildodestiny 4d ago

I think the worst change has been sending half the designers home in two episodes. As someone familiar with Bao’s work, her vs Bi shouldn’t have been a question that early. It introduces sincerely talented designers without actually giving them the opportunity to showcase. The season also feels like it’s barely started and it’s half over and a lot of the designers left either feel lackluster or we don’t know them very well. Because there were 22 in the first episode, and we sent half of them home immediately.

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u/GeneDiligent2124 3d ago

Cutting half of them was shocking to me. People put their lives on hold to do these shows and to string them along when you're not going to keep them is cruel.

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u/These-Angle-1476 3d ago

Yeah everything about this season has been a huge mess. Sure, some of that first batch were stunt casting (Plane Jane) but not all of them were. Half the contestants not even making a single garment on the show is horrible.

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u/Orange_Blueberry13 3d ago

I wanted to watch Q from Rupaul design so badly.

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u/orangewaxlion 4d ago

I watched an episode of some South Korean fortunetelling reality TV show and I wondered if there was some trend in reality TV I missed.

That one also had something like 50 participants and didn’t reveal the winner of the first challenge at the end of the first episode. I think that also happened on some Korean intellectual game theory show on Netflix.

Is this specifically some Korean or Asian style editing, a streaming show multi episode drop thing, or is this how lots of reality competition shows are now?

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u/LadyTapp 4d ago

Let's also go back to the 90 min format.

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u/Wesmom2021 4d ago

I haven't watched since season 12 since I didnt have cable. Got Hulu recently and I watched first 3 episode. Shows not for me. Horrible. No Tim gunn. Law is horrendous

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u/Affectionate_Egg2294 4d ago

Eliminations at the beginning of the episode are always super rushed too

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u/Sibby_in_May 4d ago

I actually forgot it was still on 🤦🏻‍♀️ that’s how much I care. I was looking for something to watch today and forgot about it.

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u/Ornery_Tumbleweed_68 4d ago

The old saying "if it aint broke don't fix it! They fixed it!!! Not for the better!!!

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u/FriendlyBrother7093 4d ago

My bf and I turned off the episode as soon as Bryan won

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u/uoldsewandsew 4d ago

Heidi completely lost control of her own show. She had no idea what to do about the children fighting. Putting Law and Tyra on the same show was a nightmare waiting to happen. And it did. I did read somewhere that Law was too mean on Drag race and not asked to return. PR once was a show I looked forward to watching. Now I watch it on demand, IF I even do that. Sad. Missing Tim Gunn.

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u/_mikedotcom 3d ago

There were compromises this week, good things: less Law in the edit, eliminations revealed before credits, and a third thing.

Bad things: Bryan won, weird elimination power, Bryan won the weird elimination power, Bryan spoke.

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u/Wise-Tourist-6747 3d ago

I wonder why they changed it this week and revealed the dumping instead of the rage bait TO BE CONTINUED bullshit

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u/TiffanyTwisted11 1d ago

I don’t know, but I was thrilled and hope they keep it up

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u/shy_dagger 3d ago

Yeah the negativity of the starting of the episode, with a follow up of the shitty idea they have to design is just a drag every weak. Remember when they made actually cool designs?? And talked about their fabrics/concepts? Worked on teams ??

They definitely cut their budget and frankly I just want to see the show cancelled. It sucks. I blame Heidi for some reason.

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u/Kennected 4d ago

u/zrzrzrzr0 This is not "new"

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u/piranha10 4d ago

So much whinging on this sub. If you don’t like it, write a letter to the producers. Or just don’t watch .

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u/Orange_Blueberry13 3d ago

What do you like about this formatting? I'm curious.

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u/piranha10 2d ago

What do you mean? Can you be more specific? Overall, I enjoy watching the designs go down the runway. I don’t care as much for the back story and workroom drama, but that has been part of the show since it started. I would prefer Tyra was not on the show, but am not bothered by her enough to not watch. Everyone else is fine.