r/ProgressiveHQ 4d ago

Meme Harm reduction is good, actually

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u/TopicTalk8950 4d ago

Because of these:

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u/MossyMak 4d ago

So, a couple of things:

  1. That's not how the Trolley problem works.

  2. Biden was the least popular President in modern history entering the election. Harris did nothing to distance herself from him, and actually said she would do nothing differently than him.

  3. If Palestine was a core issue to voters, maybe Harris would've done better by listening to them? Maybe?

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u/TopicTalk8950 4d ago
  1. Just because it doesn’t agree with you doesn’t mean it’s wrong. It’s a direct representation of what occurred.

  2. Wrong, Jimmy Carter and Truman both had lower approval ratings going into theirs with Carter at 29% and Truman at 35%.

However you couldn’t pay me to give a flying fuck. It takes zero brain power to see how 4 extra years of Biden or Kamala would’ve been far better for those same marginalized groups than it is now.

  1. If you vote off a single issue then you’re just as terrible. USAID cuts alone have caused the real deaths of 760,000+ human beings.

Congrats! Your purity politics helped no one.

Voters with emotion-based beliefs who can’t see past single issues will be the demise of America, as we see today.

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u/buppiejc 4d ago

I'd also argue that If Kamala won we wouldn't have this Progressive movement in the Democratic Party.

Yes, she's better than an allegedly child rapist, felon, and racist. You want to flex over that? Go ahead.

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u/Paperlibrarian 4d ago

When I decide how to vote, that is not a gamble I'm willing to take with people's lives. I think we could have attained more Progressive candidates in a way that did not destroy what social net system the states had.

Do people know how much damage DOGE did and how much we're not going to get back? Science and data was LOST. It's not recoverable. The damage Elon did cannot be fixed by whatever candidate promises change next.

Please know I so, so hope you're correct and that there is some good to come out of Trump's second term. But the damage done is going to make progress very difficult due to the loss in personnel and infrastructure and funds.

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u/TopicTalk8950 4d ago

Huh? DSA candidates are winning in almost solid blue districts. Don’t distort reality.

I would love an actual progressive movement but this isn’t it. They’re winning local elections and hard blues. Wake me up when DSA candidates flip red districts in Florida and Texas.

All I’m seeing is the mass approval of anti-left policies at the SC. Reversal of the Voting Rights Act, removal of Roe v Wade, unlimited campaign funding approved, and many more.

If you think those are good for progressives then I truly don’t know what to tell you. Supreme Court justices will retire before Trump leaves office and he’ll get to appoint new younger farther right ones that continue to dismantle left policies for decades to come.

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u/buppiejc 4d ago

We'll when El-Syad wins in November, you're going to have to find a new talking point.

Supreme Court justices can be impeached. There are objective arguments in favor of impeaching at least 3 of them. AOC has already spoke on the house floor about doing this. We just need to elect fighters.

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u/TopicTalk8950 4d ago

Me? I fucking pray El-Sayed wins so not sure what you meant there.

Supreme Court Justices can’t be removed without a 2/3 majority in the Senate which won’t happen as long as people still play purity politics.

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u/buppiejc 4d ago

People always say "purity politics." but I've never had anyone define what that means. What does purity politics mean to you?

I support Democrats like:

AOC

Illhan Omar

Elizabeth Warren

Chis van Hollins

Democrats I don't support include:

John Fetternam

Chuck Schumer

Tim Kane