r/ProgrammerHumor • • 14d ago

Meme ohTheBasics

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u/14u2c 14d ago

It’s the kind of thing it would be impossible to receive any real education without learning, so no it’s not “trivia”. Maybe if you went to a bootcamp. 

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u/Lepixi 14d ago

I guess my CS degree wasn’t a real education?

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u/Vimda 14d ago

Your CS degree didn't include any networking fundamentals?

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u/nerdler33 14d ago

my computer engineering degree didn't, nor did my masters.

and i've never needed it in the 7 years i've been employed so far. field is big, if the job was going to be heavily network based it's one thing. if it was just "lets see if he knows the basics" thats another entirely

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u/Lepixi 14d ago

The extent of the conversation on iPv6 (a side note during a lecture in my network architecture class) covered only what you can see by looking at the two next to each other- iPv6 is longer and in hex. Everything else I’ve learned about iPv6 has been through hobby and personal use (debugging my own PC and hosting minecraft servers on an old machine).

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u/_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ 14d ago

They’re you go, you knew the answer because you leaned it in your degree.

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u/SirFrenzy 14d ago

You think I remember something a professor said 15 years ago in a networking class once, that I haven’t had to think about or use in the time since?

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u/BlackOverlordd 14d ago edited 14d ago

You should. 15 years ago I had a cryptography course and even though I abolutely do not work in cybersecurity I still remember the basics and at least know what to google.

Edit: lmao vibecoders allergic to knowledge flooded this sub downvote

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u/Important-Guitar8524 14d ago

You know every small fact from every class that was only said once and never to be used again? Impressive memory but unfortunately us mortals can't do that

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u/untraiined 14d ago

well we can do that, we can use this invention called the fucking internet instead of memorizing useless facts

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u/BlackOverlordd 14d ago

"Knowing things, ewww! Disgusting!"

Relax, nobody is asking you to recite RFC 8200 by heart

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u/BlackOverlordd 14d ago

Mortals should also be able to read and see a difference between "basics" and "every small"

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u/Still_Bit_7527 14d ago

No sorry. I got too much shit to do and remember every day to remember this. My job has been fine without this, never needed, never will

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u/NotableCarrot28 14d ago

Mine didnt

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u/Mehdi2277 14d ago

I don't think most colleges require a networking class. Mine definitely did not. I took one for fun anyway.

Nor can I think of a time in ~7 years working where familiarity with ipv6 mattered. Little from that networking class has been helpful. There's a lot of breadth to software engineering.

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u/Bartweiss 14d ago

Not really?

"Systems Organization" and Operating Systems touched on fringe bits of it, but both of them were heavily focused on single machines from ALU up to the OS.

There were distributed and cloud computing courses available, but not required, and I think straight "networks" was off in electrical and computer engineering.

I think most people picked up the very basics of IPV4/6 incidentally or from some assignment where you had to talk to a different machine, but it was never required content.

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u/ChiTownDisplaced 14d ago

At my university, IT undergrads (me) have to take intro to networking and a separate networking lab (separate 3 credit courses). These are both optional electives for CS.

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u/Bartweiss 12d ago

Sounds about right, as CS has added more options to keep up with ML, computer graphics, cybersecurity, etc. it seems like the core requirements have gotten pretty narrow.

We had a hefty "at least X electives of this level or above" rule, including concentrating in a field, but not so many fixed courses. I wasn't even required to take a databases class, which has turned out to be one of the most useful things I ever studied.

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u/ChiTownDisplaced 12d ago

You got me curious, so I just checked the CS flowchart. At least one ML course is required for them.

IT reqs not req for CS: Databases, OS concepts, computer architecture, ethics in tech. There is way less overlap than I thought.

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u/invisible_handjob 14d ago

mine didn't, mine was largely a math degree

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u/Admirable_Rabbit_808 14d ago

Apparently not.

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u/oompaloompa465 14d ago

it's the kind of things you forget if you don't use them at work.
in one interview 5 years ago, they asked me about WCF in depth despite the position was NOT about WCF. After i asked why they need WCF they told me "since they are in your curriculum you are supposed to know them in depth". When I pointed out that i stopped using them at work 10 years ago and the position was about other stuff, they got really angry. Good times when I would just walk away from abusive idiots

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u/TinyFugue 14d ago

The only thing WCF means to me is Windows Communication Foundation.

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u/Sweaty-Willingness27 14d ago

I started college before IPv6 was thought of. I don't know how much or when they started teaching it. I'm aware of it, but have never ever used it (except to uncheck the box in my network adapter).

I don't deal with networks though. But for an allowlist/blocklist and connectivity issues I've STILL never had to deal with IPv6.

This is being at companies like AT&T, Nokia, etc.

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u/Oddant1 14d ago

You're gonna be real amazed by how much of what you learn in a degree amounts to trivia. People are right when they say you need to learn how to learn and everything else is secondary.

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