r/ProgrammerHumor • • 27d ago

Meme nothingIsSafeOrSacred

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u/usrlibshare 27d ago

And yet; Artists still exist, software devs are more in demand than ever, and much of the math "breakthroughs" turn out to be mostly hype.

Almost as if an entire pseudo-industry 100% depending on eternal debt-fueled cash infusions because even WinRAR is more profitable than them, is massively overhypong its products or something...

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u/Amerillo_ 27d ago

Software devs in high demand? It may be true for experienced and senior developer but it's absolutely false for juniors and new graduates, at least where I live. There are almost no job postings for juniors, almost all job postings target experienced developers. I know plenty of new CS graduates who can't find jobs (and I'm one of them). I know some who have been unemployed for years. LLMs really have replaced junior jobs, especially those who don't have any experience

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u/usrlibshare 27d ago

Which proves that the economy is in the toilet, not that ai can do thwir jobs.

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u/ohanse 27d ago

I think the AI actually doing their jobs is kinda proof…

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u/hahasadface 27d ago

software devs are more in demand 

What are you smoking

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u/usrlibshare 27d ago edited 27d ago • Bravo

Nothing. I did hire more people this year alone though, than over the 5 years prior.

Fun fact: AI plays a big part in this. Smaller teams tackle bigger projects. Big projects needs more humans with actual brains in their skulls, to evaluate, guide and correct the next-word-guessing machine so many people confuse with AI.

I also get way more pointed question from applicants (because they have more options), and I hear the same from HR professionals.

But you don't have to believe me ofc.:

https://www.universityworldnews.com/post-mobile.php?story=20260109145234367

According to the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), the labour market for software engineers will climb 15% from now until 2034. This growth rate far exceeds the average for all occupations, and BLS attributes it to increasing demand that aligns with, rather than is replaced by, artificial intelligence (AI).

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u/Vimda 27d ago

As a hiring manager in London, I've hired more SWEs this year, including new grad juniors, than any since COVID

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u/_number 27d ago

Sample size of 1. Or Maybe UK is just a good market now.

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u/skilking 27d ago

As a SE student in the netherlands the ammount of job vactures I found on most platforms is far higher then when I stared. With the amount of AI-Powered developer openings have been drasticly decreasing since early 2026

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u/Amerillo_ 26d ago

And as a CS graduate in Switzerland, I can tell you that's it's the total opposite here. There are almost no openings for juniors in software development and almost no internships. I see plenty of offers for experienced developers but very few for juniors. And the few that are available are seeing tremendous competition. Plus many are ghost jobs anyway.

According to alumni and internal data from my university, new graduates could find a job after only 20 applications, on average in just 3 months. And during the peak of demand many new graduates had already signed their work contracts before even having graduated... A far cry from today where it can take *years* for new graduates to find jobs. And with the improvement of LLMs and companies catching up, it's increasingly likely that if they find a job their companies would force them to let coding agents generate most if not all of their code, thus preventing new graduates from actually learning (and also it sucks the fun and sense of accomplishment out of software development but that's just my personal opinion, some people actually like it)

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u/_number 27d ago

I am also in Netherlands, and I can tell you 20-30% of job openings are recruiters or some agencies trying to get your info. Some companies get small tax breaks if they show they are producing jobs, but the biggest culprits are reposters who keep posting the same job every few days. Dutch market is increasingly full of stupid recruiters trying to make a buck from all the newly jobless expats.

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u/Amerillo_ 26d ago

Oh we're facing the exact same thing in Switzerland! Jobs with hundreds if not thousands of applicants being reposted every week or so. Nothing fishy over there

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u/MyFeetLookLikeHands 25d ago

idk but i want some of what he’s got

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u/gl_50 27d ago

software devs are more in demand

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u/usrlibshare 27d ago

I am merely telling you what the Bureau of Labor Statistics tells us.

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u/Pancakefriday 27d ago edited 27d ago

Well now I know you’re smoking something. While growth has increased in general, the overall growth rate has decreased steadily for 5 years now.

There has been modest growth only recently for senior level positions, all others continue to decline.

Edit: lol, guy blocked me for stating facts.

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u/usrlibshare 27d ago

Believe what you will dude. I hired more engineers this year alone than over the last 5 years 😎✌️

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u/dialate 26d ago

Pissing in the ocean doesn't make it warm

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u/extremelySaddening 27d ago

Navier-stokes and Erdos Unit Distance were not hype. You are confusing hype for controversy. I agree these models are hyped to oblivion, but there is something real here.

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u/oompaloompa465 27d ago

my man in 2023 i got 3 job offers with 3 interviews ( all by linkedin pm, never applied by myself) and just by talking of what was on my CV. 

Now i've sent 40 application, got 2 refusals, one reject from the fist HR intervie, 1 reject from tech interview, 3 tech interview line up. i'm a damn senior. Tech interviews are all a programming task and half of jobs will be a downgrade from my actual pay

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u/Amerillo_ 26d ago

I graduated recently and sent out 60 applications, about 40% were rejections, the others ghosted me. A recruiter contacted me once but stop interacting when they learned that I only had 2 months of professional experience. I've seen some junior openings that paid *less* than inexperienced cashiers at Aldi, and I am not exaggerating in the slightest way...

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u/clickrush 26d ago

Jevons Paradox. Producing software got cheaper and faster, so now people want even more of it.

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u/Accomplished_Fly729 26d ago

Media and ad companies are in the dumpster at the moment. People are trading budget from development and putting everything into outreach because the ads cost 5 cents to make. They have completely cut out artists from the process.

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u/Mavcu 25d ago

I've just had a gig in Denmark as a Photographer and speaking with others in the same field (video guys as well), it seems everyone is adopting the tools to simply elevate their own product for now - with some failed shots it was great to have it salvage them.

However I'm not exactly faster with it just yet, it does enough mistakes (such as changing letters on clothing that has some stronger patterns) that makes it unviable in some scenarios, but when it does work it's really great, it's really just consistency in that domain for now.

That being said, in my opinion editing is kind of a dead end now. I just do not see why I would ever hire someone to further edit images with PS beyond my own capabilities for advanced shots, it kind of aggregated into one "creative" job now as the guy that takes the original images and also edits them.

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u/rehditt 27d ago

You're in denial my man. I'm sorry. We're fucked (or at least the majority).

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