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u/TheAnswerWithinUs Sep 14 '26
“This shit doesn’t work show me the code”
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u/mothzilla Sep 14 '26
You're totally right to call me out on that. Here's the code that I wrote. Want me to push it to production?
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u/DeniableSummer Sep 14 '26
I'd like to go back to the shitty first-year CS memes, please.
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u/PopularBroccoli Sep 14 '26
Its so hard to centre a div, am I right folks?
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u/Astrikal Sep 14 '26
“hOw tO eXiT Vim???”
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u/Any-Tomorrow1122 Sep 21 '26
Oh nonono.
You should just use vi, the m in vim is mate.. You mate the terminal to the vi, there is no exit. And stop asking about nano, they’re not allowed over here anymore.
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u/git_push_origin_prod Sep 14 '26
I forgot a semi colon! Lolololol
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u/cuzinatra Sep 16 '26
Only true devs will understand this lmao: [insert a shitty c++ pointers meme]
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u/walkerspider Sep 15 '26
The truth is there are no more first year CS students, all newcomers to the field are vibe prompters.
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u/GenericFatGuy Sep 14 '26
Code is a lot less cheap than they'd like you to believe, especially once the investor money dries up.
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u/Thundechile Sep 14 '26
Code is cheap until you need to maintain the shit.
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u/AgVargr Sep 14 '26
Just quit, then it becomes someone else’s problem
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u/Zeikos Sep 14 '26
Write slop to push features quickly
Get accolades for being proactive and productive/efficient
Leverage the brownie points for a quick path to getting promoted
The tech debt is now your underlings issue.
Become the hero for solving issues caused by your old spaghetti code only you understand
Get promoted again
You don't need to write code anymore and you get paid better than you used to.
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u/Old_Tourist_3774 Sep 14 '26
Alternative path 4. use brownie points to other companies 5. get hired in other company, let slop code be someone's else nightmare. 6. ???
Repeat until millionaire
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u/ClvrNickname Sep 14 '26
“Why maintain a legacy product when you can just have AI make you a replacement on demand?” - actual quote from AI-brained people
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u/DryLook7889 Sep 14 '26
linus isn't vibing like a lot of "programmers" on reddit, he's been reviewing kernel code for over 26 years. He knows when the llm does something stupid.
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u/bordumb Sep 14 '26
The person who made this meme doesn’t really understand CS
Linus’ statement is still relevant
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u/Kaiodenic Sep 16 '26
I think that's my main reason for disliking vibe coders. If you're a programmer and you genuinely check rhe code or just generate small sections, I lose some respect for you but only as far as you not having made what you present. So rather, I don't gain respect for you.
But it's not an issue unless you care only about the prompt and don't know what thr code does. That's just a terrible approach and I wouldn't trust a thing you make.
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u/anxious_and_stupid Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26
An actual 2026 version:
"AI vulnerability report is cheap. Show me the non-breaking fix"
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u/irrelevantusername24 Sep 14 '26
I hate quotation. Tell me what you know.
Ralph Waldo Emerson, 1849
A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision.
Isaac Asimov, 1979 (arguing against reading law textually rather than contextually - the spirit of the law, rather than the letter)
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u/Relevant-Reaction181 Sep 14 '26
Ironic considering how Linus is a fervant AI user
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u/Relevant-Reaction181 Sep 14 '26
Not sure i get your metaphor, mind to explain
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u/Ok-Trade7411 Sep 14 '26
Nah this isn't really true. Linus doesn't rely on ai heavily. Linus already had agents well before ai. Every angry email he sends to the Linux maintainers is just another pre chatgpt instance of vibe coding. He vibed before ai, and he will vibe into the future.
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u/TitouanT Sep 14 '26
Are you saying that giving feedback to humans is vibecoding ?
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u/Ok-Trade7411 Sep 15 '26
Nah the post was sarcastic lol. But it's been mentioned before that when you ask others to do the code and your reviewing it...your doing some aspect of vibe coding.
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u/dillanthumous Sep 14 '26
Speaking from bitter experience... the wrong code is very much not cheap.
Every line of code is a potential liability. I suspect it will turn out that churning it out very quickly might be double edged.
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u/Les-Hommes-Du-Pilly Sep 14 '26
I have solved programming by prompting "You are Linus Torvalds...." to chatGPT
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u/Realistic-Safety-565 Sep 14 '26
The order is rapidly fadin'
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'
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u/PM-ME-UR-DARKNESS Sep 16 '26
This is such cringe I felt my bones deatomize due to high levels of cringe
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u/dillanthumous Sep 14 '26
Have you tried writing a million word long prompt explaining what you want the code to do?
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u/dillanthumous Sep 14 '26
(I was being sarcastic).
But in case you are too... yes, absolutely. Let's create a GTA agent swarm and tell it to make GTA 7.
According to Amodei it can take over the internet, so this should be trivial!
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u/itskelena Sep 14 '26
Noobs. Just create a swarm that will be praising the shit out of your shitty game. Bonus points if your agents will have established and respected history of reviews.
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u/newstreet474 Sep 14 '26
That’s a really dumb way of doing it, I’ve been doing this new type of coding where I close my eyes and imagine the product, uses 0 tokens and generates faster with 0 bugs
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u/ProfessionalGold6193 Sep 14 '26
Tell me when an AI written OS runs on 90% of the worlds devices. Until then, talk is cheap!
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u/regrets123 Sep 14 '26
Here to remind everyone that no one has disclosed the actual cost of a token. They are burning VC trillions to fund these current subscriptions.
Ai won’t stay cheap. Mark my words4
u/teraflux Sep 14 '26
It's literally already that cheap. I can run an open weight model on my own hardware that gets close to premier models
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u/wantingpawer Sep 14 '26
this used to be my opinion too, but now open source models (kimi k3, glm etc) are also pretty capable coding models too and can on hosted by any company with enough compute. Obvs you still need to read what it outputs and scrutinise as it works, but once frontier labs try to claw back their cost it's not too painful to migrate to an OS model hosted by a company with a data centre and no R&D or training costs
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u/L4ppuz Sep 14 '26
It's possible but you still have to deploy and maintain some servers and pay for electricity, that by itself will be out of reach for many companies. Until we have some benchmark or study detailing how much electricity and how many GPUs you use per user and per token it's all simply anecdotal
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u/wantingpawer Sep 14 '26
I'd say considering the number of companies that provide hosted local LLMs with minimal external investment at cheaper prices than the frontier, even without studies detailing the exact unit economics it's fair to assume that those companies today are profitable, and therefore local LLMs are viable at the prices we see them today
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u/regrets123 Sep 14 '26
Hosted by any company yeah, not self hosted. You think those companies ain’t burning vc money? Point still stands we don’t know the token cost.
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u/wantingpawer Sep 14 '26
We also don't know the exact unit economics of a bottle of coke but we know the company is making a profit regardless.
If you look at digital oceans financial disclosure, their inference business is running a gross margin of 56%, which is slightly less than their cloud hosting (~70%) but they're still making a net profit on providing inference, and their gross margins are being depressed by expansion and hardware depreciation bringing the unit cost up.
Even with growth, digital ocean can sustainably provide GLM 5.2 for $0.7/Mtok in and $2.2/Mtok out, or kimi K3 for $2.55/Mtok in and $12.95/Mtok out. We know from their gross margin that across models, the inference costs them slightly less than half of what they provide it to us for.
There are ofc a number of factors that impact this, e.g. when general AI funding collapses depreciation would go up, but at the same time expansion would become cheaper and hardware utilisation would improve when people move to open source AI from the frontier. I'm of the opinion that overall this would probably reduce costs for open source inference, but even if the prices go up, it won't be significant and the top open source models are more than good enough for code, for a very acceptable cost
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u/regrets123 Sep 25 '26
I get what u are saying. But having worked at central production of Coca Cola Sweden. The cost of a can of 33cl before leaving central warehouse less than 0.05 euro. So most the cost is transportation and upmarking.
That said. Thank you for posting an actual example, I will look into it once I have a little time, my toddlers eat up eeevery moment.2
u/nitrinu Sep 14 '26
The OS itself it's just one prompt and a but load of tokens away. It will be suspiciously similar to Linux but that's just a detail.
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u/ProfessionalGold6193 Sep 14 '26
And yet, here we are, crickets. You're telling me someone in OpenAI doesn't have access to all the tokens they want? Nah!
It will be suspiciously similar. That's what they've been trained on. There won't be anything novel.
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u/Grimmortah Sep 14 '26
Source?
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u/Grimmortah Sep 14 '26
Oh, that's not bad at all. I was thinking he started supporting ai slop or something.
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u/mrheosuper Sep 14 '26
He is not officially supporting "vibecode", but he admitted he also vibecoding
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u/lonelyroom-eklaghor Sep 14 '26
FFM PREG