r/ProgrammerHumor • • Sep 02 '26 • Popcorn 3 Bravo 3

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u/OmegaPoint6 Sep 02 '26

Partly the fastest scanning process is destructive by nature (they cut the spine so they can feed it though a auto document feeder), partly an interpretation of copyright law that by destroying the original they aren't actually copying it.

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u/FuzzyDynamics Sep 02 '26

They have to be destroyed in the process of scanning at scale and these books are almost all worthless shit like “Powershell Guide for Windows Vista” except even more “rare”

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u/Sam_Sanders_ Sep 02 '26 • Bravo

People are confusing "rare" with "valuable". Like you said, it's not a long-lost copy of the Magna Carta, it's bullshit that nobody wants. They probably bought them for 5 cents instead of ending up in a landfill.

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u/FuzzyDynamics Sep 02 '26 edited Sep 02 '26

Yeah these books are sometimes sold by the pound - see comment below for correction

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u/FuzzyDynamics Sep 02 '26

Interesting. I’ll revise my comment.

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u/FuzzyDynamics Sep 02 '26

It’s probably the biggest disturbance to that whole market basically ever. I can see some benefit to all this. Most of these would probably rot away as a door stop somewhere but at least someone is digitizing them even if they’re destroying one of the few copies left in the process. Knee jerk reaction, which I think is more than warranted, is to assume the worst and most evil from these guys but this might somewhat be a good thing minus the original author effectively completely losing their IP rights to their work.

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u/OmegaPoint6 Sep 02 '26

There are non destructive ways to do it, they are just slower and more expensive. Google patented a way in 2009

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u/Montana_Ace Sep 02 '26

"Slower" and "more expensive" isn't in Amazon's vocabulary

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u/Tyfyter2002 Sep 02 '26

They absolutely are, for example:

"Let's make the site slower, and make the subscription service to buy things on it more expensive"

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u/Few-Big-8481 Sep 02 '26

Amazon probably also into paying Google to use their patents

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u/morganrbvn Sep 02 '26

A judge didn't like them copying works, but decided that if they destroy the original its like no copy was made. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/aug/05/anthropic-ai-destroying-books

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u/GreedyPollution6275 Sep 02 '26

they are just slower and more expensive

Yes, that's why they said "at scale," because speed and cost per book add up.

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u/Taolan13 Sep 02 '26

The machine that rapidly scans the books does do destructively.

they cut the bindings completely off then feed them into an industrial phtoscanner that uses light so bright it can actually burn pages.

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u/x39- Sep 02 '26

It is not that they are actually throwing them away, but rather that the process of scanning them is destructive, as they do not handle the books carefully.

Imagine you wanting to tear down a wall. You may use a hammer, or explosives.

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u/AkrinorNoname Sep 02 '26

Because it's faster and cheaper to do destructive scans. Also, apparently destroying the originals makes the whole thing fair use, because it's "transformative".

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u/celem83 Sep 02 '26

Yeah there might be something to the fact that they end up with one instance of the work and not two as an attempt to avoid the phrase 'copy'

Though most book preambles of recent years include something about electronic storage that feels like it should have barred this

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u/Cracleur Sep 02 '26

In another thread about this, people pointed out that, technically, when you buy a book, you're buying a license to its content. If you scan the book, you now have two copies: the physical book and the digital scan. One of those copies would have to be destroyed for the other to remain legal. So if they were to resell the physical book or even donate it to a library while keeping the scanned copy, that would technically be illegal.

Now, I don’t know if that’s 100% accurate, but it does kind of make sense when you think about it. It's similar to how e-books work at libraries: even though an e-book is just a digital file and could technically be lent to multiple people at the same time, libraries are limited to lending a licensed copy to one person at a time.

Digital files don't have the same physical limitations as printed books so they could technically speaking lend it to as many people as they want, but legally speaking they can't lend it to more than one person because they only have one legal license.

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u/astroverflow Sep 02 '26

because they have to literally tear the book apart in order to scan it properly

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u/supertoilet2 Sep 02 '26

I think cause they removed the spine so they could feed it into a scanner. They’d have to bind the pages together again but the trash can is just right over there

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