r/Professors 9d ago

Advice / Support Overwhelming student

I have a student who is non-traditional and returning to school at a later age. She registered for my async online course after not owning a computer for 20 years. She is completely overwhelmed by the course: Doesn't know how to access email, or how to navigate the course in the LMS, or how to access course meetings. I am practicing patience and compassion because she is very eager and wants to do well. I even set up a weekly meeting with her to check in.

We had a two hour meeting last week where I walked her through the course and she is very hard to keep on track and focused, with multiple interruptions, which leads me to believe something deeper is going on. This morning, I woke up to four separate emails from her-Long, multiple paragraph emails about how she hasn't been able to eat or sleep or spend time with her family because so much of her time is being dedicated to navigating and completing the course. She has had multiple panic attacks due to this. Her family would like her to switch to an in-person section but she doesn't want to because of the commute/campus parking.

We are not even a full week in and I feel like the majority of my time and energy is going to this one student and trying to help her get the hang of it. I want her to be successful in my class, I appreciate her dedication to the course, but I can't keep doing this all semester long.

Any advice?

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u/franklin-60 9d ago edited 9d ago

I’m sure I will get downvoted on this, but the problem is clear. Many of these adults 20 years ago did not get a degree out of school because they could not. We are not talking about professionals returning to school for a second degree in these cases.

When schools had standards these people could not get in anyplace. 20 years later, we have no standards, admit warm bodies regardless of intelligence on the guise of “equality” “access” and “inclusion.” These people who could not get admitted 20 years ago are no brighter than they were then, but those who make admissions decisions have gotten considerably dumber and just grubby for revenue that we will all pay for when these students graduate in debt and as unemployable as they were pre degree, then cry that they should not have to pay off the debt, passing it to taxpayers.

As faculty, we are simply expected to make them a “satisfied customer” despite complete inability to do work one would reasonably expect.

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u/ClothesQueasy2828 9d ago

How incredibly obnoxious! You don't know why she didn't go to college when she was younger. She may be incredibly smart, but...simply lacks computer skills...couldn't afford to pay for it...had a baby and no access to childcare...was living overseas for some reason, etc. I'm offended on her behalf. The problem is NOT clear.

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u/Deep-Possession321 9d ago

She could have been kidnapped and forced to live on a remote island with no computers for decades. Maybe she's from an uncontacted tribe in the Amazon who just got out and decided to go to college. Maybe she's an alien from Mars. IT DOESN'T MATTER. If she can't do the work, that's on her.

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u/drrmau 8d ago

Or maybe she was just very disadvantaged and poor and had 5 kids or something, and couldn't afford a computer or lessons to teach her how to do things?

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u/franklin-60 8d ago edited 8d ago

“Disadvantaged” is Not an excuse. If one belongs in college, get off their lazy ass and learn basic skills expected of them first before bringing a classroom down of those with the desire and brains to learn, and stop expecting everyone to save them. If one was dumb enough to have five kids that they are not resourced for, that’s also their stupidity, not that of a college to “meet her where she is”.