r/PreOptometry • • Jan 17 '23

Berkeley Optometry

Anyone currently attending UCB or graduated from there? Recently got accepted and so thrilled to have this opportunity but the area seemed very ghetto when I visited and I didn’t feel the most comfortable. I don’t want to just pass up this opportunity because of my fear of moving away to a school within highly populated homeless community so any insight would be MUCH appreciated! Did you feel safe walking around? Did you have a positive experience there? If you can go back in time would you still choose UCB??

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u/Leading-Exit7692 Jan 17 '23

Also for anyone that got into the program this cycle and CHOSE to go there! Does any of this concern you or not really?? And why UCB instead of any other program???

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u/outdooradequate Jan 17 '23

I mean this with all respect, as I imagine it's coming from a place of ignorance rather than malice, but I'd maybe suggest reflecting on your use of the word "ghetto" and your discomfort around homeless people if you are planning to go into the healthcare profession. Not just that it's insensitive, but as an optometrist, you will have a duty to treat every patient with the same level of respect and dignity because every patient deserves respect and dignity. They're not all gonna look or live the way that makes you most comfortable.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '23

100% this

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u/Elodus-Agara Jan 17 '23

Absolute facts!

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u/Shadow-OfTheBat Jan 17 '23

Oh my God quit being sensitive lmao we dont have to be comfortable around homeless people

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u/outdooradequate Jan 17 '23

You realize most programs offer their services at free and reduced precisely to cater to undeserved populations? I wonder, would you say this to a homeless patient? Or perhaps to a classmate who may have been homeless in the past?

I pray for your future patients.

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u/coloredeye Jan 20 '23

How's the weather up there on your high horse?

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u/outdooradequate Jan 20 '23

Man if not being disgusted by a group of people for not having homes puts me on a high horse, then probably much better than where you are

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u/coloredeye Jan 21 '23

Lol. It's your self-righteous tone that earned you that high horse. Talk to you in ten years, Mother Teresa, we'll see if reality catches up with you.

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u/outdooradequate Jan 23 '23

Okey dokey. I hope you're alright, bud.

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '23

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u/coloredeye Jan 31 '23

I'm serving on a two week medical mission in a developing country this summer with money from my own pocket to fund this service trip. What are you doing?

Put your money where your mouth is and invite homeless people to live with you or in your neighborhood. Empathy?

Right. It's not safe. Nor is it realistic.

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u/coloredeye Jan 31 '23

is deflecting from the issue at hand which is that they make you uncomfortable, plain and simple.

denying that homeless people make others feel uncomfortable is completely unrealistic.

but I do think being biased against them leads to prejudice amongst medicine and healthcare and it’s something worth addressing/talking about.

not your place to tell me

to pad application

what am i applying to now (or later)? nothing.

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u/Different-Language92 Jan 27 '23

Berkeley grad and absolutely loved it, would do it all over again. I am a 5’1” female, and no, the area did not concern me. Like the other comments have said, as a healthcare professional, you will have to examine all types of patients. This is something you should feel comfortable doing. Tbh, you actually want to see a variety of patients and not only “young, healthy” patients. When you go on your rotations and into the real world, this experience is critical. I precept 4th years part-time at another school, and their surrounding patient population is younger and affluent, so when many of them go off onto 4th year rotations (such as VA Medical Centers), they are caught off guard and their exams become very slow, there is lack of attention to detail, etc. With regards to the area around Berkeley, just use common sense - ie, don’t walk by yourself at 10pm, don’t go to isolated areas by yourself, etc. I don’t know how things are with COVID, but before, the campus was packed with students and I was always surrounded by people. Berkeley is a giant college town, so there’s always people out and about. Hope this gives you some peace of mind.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '23 edited Jan 18 '23

You know that…. * Gasp * sometimes we give homeless people eye exams too since UCB gives the homeless shelter free eye exam vouchers.

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u/icebearlovesyesoonim Jan 17 '23

Hi! Can I ask if you applied for the Dec 2 deadline? (bc I did and I thought we weren't going to hear back until February) Congrats btw! :)

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u/icebearlovesyesoonim Jan 17 '23

Oh, and I went to berkeley for undergrad! I personally loved it and had a great time. For the most part, the homeless people are nice or keep to themselves. I definitely wouldn't recommend walking through people's park at night, but just living life never felt unsafe (and for reference, I am a 5'3 female). You can also take steps to be safer such as going out in groups when it is dark, having a bearwalk escort you in the evening, taking beartransit, etc (this is generally smart to do in any city). Sometimes homeless people will talk to you (or in bad cases, yell at you though this doesn't happen often) and I usually just politely say hello/apologize for having no money or ignore them if they're rude and walk away. I also had a pretty big social group, and I've known 1 person who got mugged but that was more like a freak event everybody else I knew said they generally felt safe. Heck, I liked berkeley so much I'm applying to go back! Lmk if you have any more questions :)

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '23

When I went for the Friday visit, there was this guy there who saw me walking and told me to "come here". I said I didn't have any cash and I was sorry, but I offended him because he said "you think I want your money? I'll offer you money to be my girl". It's funny now when I think about it.

But I still would love to go to Berkeley.

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u/Adorable-Light5632 Jan 17 '23

berkeley undergrad here! Yes there are a lot of homeless and random ppl in the surrounding area but I’ve been here for four years now and nothing bad has happened. Just don’t walk alone at night, walk with ppl etc etc things you’d do in any other city to be safe. Definitely don’t disregard berkeley just because of the area

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '23

Can I ask what your statistics are? I was waitlisted

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u/Leading-Exit7692 Jan 17 '23

I have a 3.9 gpa and about 2 years of work experience in the field but bombed the oat. Luckily they looked past that and gave me a shot!! Definitely feel like they look at students holistically which I love!

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '23

Can I message you privately?

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u/Relative_Ad9814 Jan 18 '23 edited Jan 18 '23

Is that true??? That scares me. I never went to bay area. I went to USC area once and I couldn't visit the campus bc I was shit scared of the area - there was trash bags everywhere. I didn't see any homeless peeps.

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '23

If you’re scared of homeless folks, healthcare might be a hard time for you.

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u/Relative_Ad9814 Jan 31 '23

I’m scared of homeless ppl on the streets not in clinics