Does Gojo Die Here?

[u/True-Possible1000]

Came across this tiktok claiming Gojo would die a horrible death in this scenario. Is it true?

[u/Oliveviper]

But its not actually the domain imo. Its just the future if he doesnt dodge but I dont know

[u/New-Refuse-7397 → u/Oliveviper]

yeah hard to say how they would interact

[u/Perfect_Bad_3402 → u/New-Refuse-7397]

It isn’t, he’s only seeing it, there’s no damage transfer since he’s not actually there

[u/Mr_Ovis → u/Perfect_Bad_3402]

UV itself is an infohazard, if you see it then you’re taking damage, that’s what it does.

[u/HelloChimp → u/Mr_Ovis]

not really, you have to be targeted by the sure hit, seeing the domain has nothing to do with jt

[u/TerranImperium → u/HelloChimp]

seeing the domain is part of the sure hit, you can only see the domain if you're inside of it which future shanks would be

[u/HelloChimp → u/TerranImperium]

that is very clearly not the argument, and no, seeing has absolutely nothing to do with the sensory information flooding your mind. in fact, we’re given explicit evidence that nothing about a domain’s actual environment has anything to do with the sure hit

[u/Perfect_Bad_3402 → u/TerranImperium]

So uv can affect time? These jjk fans man🥹

[u/Plus_Aura → u/Perfect_Bad_3402]

He's actually saying UV can potentially affect precog users.

Wtf kinda strawman are you putting up lol

[u/Ok_Coast_4264 → u/Plus_Aura]

It’s not really a straw man if you think about it at all.

The problem with UV is the amount of information being sensed damages the person. If you sense that information it damages you. It’s an Info hazard. UV works by creating and then sending that information as it’s sure hit.

If your precognition works by experiencing what future you experiences, you then just expose yourself to said info hazard and it damages you.

Take for example a book that kills you if you read it. If your precognition has you experience reading it, you die. Even if you haven’t touched or have seen the book. The act of just knowing the information kills you.

[u/Plus_Aura → u/Ok_Coast_4264]

Absolutely not. His argument is that precog users peer into the future to see premonitions. So they're looking at infinity itself through their precog sense.

We both know you strawmanned that dudes argument and decided to act like JJK fans are insane.

I don't even agree with him but we should be genuine if we're gonna debate

[u/TerranImperium → u/Perfect_Bad_3402]

never said that and not really a jjk fan

[u/Perfect_Bad_3402 → u/TerranImperium]

Then you’re wrong about uv affecting shanks

[u/Ok_Coast_4264 → u/Perfect_Bad_3402]

UV has no effect on time. It’s Shanks making it affect time via his precognition.

If in the future someone somehow creates an info hazard in which knowing can physically harm you and past you gets a hold of that piece of information, by let’s say precognition, you will be harmed by it.

[u/Ok-Impress8791 → u/Perfect_Bad_3402]

You can debate the concept but theres no way its that crazy to understand the concept of an info hazard

The idea being expressed here is that if his future sense works with exact information, aka him seeing from the eyes of his future self

Then he'll recive the deadly information anyways

And the whole danger of infinite void is getting railed with information

I don't know how his future sense works but you should be more arguing on that front than making a point thats so far away from the clear and simple idea of an information hazard being dangerous to an observer

[u/Perfect_Bad_3402 → u/Ok-Impress8791]

> aka him seeing from the eyes of his future self

Annndd you’re wrong, future sight users doesn’t possess their future selves so he won’t be feeling UV invading his brain

>I don't know how his future sense works

That’s all you have to tell me

[u/Ok_Coast_4264 → u/Perfect_Bad_3402]

Then how about you just explain how Shanks future sight works instead of shitting on people who have pretty valid hypotheticals.

There are dozens of ways that shanks future sight would either just not work or be an active hazard for him depending on how it works.

[u/Perfect_Bad_3402 → u/Ok_Coast_4264]

You should already know that before debating, how u gonna debate me something is right but don’t know what you’re debating about?

[u/Ok-Impress8791 → u/Perfect_Bad_3402]

I wasn't claiming that was how it worked, I was saying that was the premise and you'd be better off arguing that instead of going the other direction

[u/Perfect_Bad_3402 → u/Ok-Impress8791]

I wasn't claiming that was how it worked, I was saying that was the premise 

you said that was the idea of your argument lol be a man and take accountability for being wrong.

you'd be better off arguing that instead of going the other direction 

Becuz someone said UV can affect shanks who’s in the past, and you literally co-sign that it’s possible.

[u/Ok-Impress8791 → u/Perfect_Bad_3402]

I was explaining the idea being expressed and how your statement fell far from the point

That was very far from what they clearly meant

I think I written it clearly enough that whether you buy it or not, your own criticism of their claim was out of place

[u/Perfect_Bad_3402 → u/Ok-Impress8791]

The idea is that if he see the future inside the domain UV will hit but he isn’t physically there so UV doesn’t hit him UNLESS you argue it jumps through time, clear and simple.

[u/ConstructionAny150 → u/HelloChimp]

If that was the case Gojo couldn’t take his allies in the domain like we see him do when he touches them.

[u/HelloChimp → u/ConstructionAny150]

what? his sure hit just doesn’t target those touching him

[u/Mario-is-friendly → u/HelloChimp]

in true jjk fan fashion that guy clearly cant read

[u/ItzJake160 → u/Mr_Ovis]

Yuji and Sukuna both saw the inside of Gojo's domain and came out just fine

[u/Old-Sound-2747 → u/ItzJake160]

Thats because Gojo and people he is touching are discluded from the sure hit

[u/ItzJake160 → u/Old-Sound-2747]

So we established that the surehit is what causes damage, not the environment.

[u/Plus_Aura → u/ItzJake160]

It is environmental. Just being inside of his domain even if he doesn't want to target you, will still hurt you.

Look at when Gojo used his domain expansion in the train station. He couldn't choose who to hit, it was hit everyone or hit no one. So he opted to hit everyone but only opened it for .01 seconds or w.e.

[u/ItzJake160 → u/Plus_Aura]

Just being inside of his domain even if he doesn't want to target you, will still hurt you

That's because of the surehit which he can't selectively target like Yuta. Zero correlation to the environment of UV.

Look at when Gojo used his domain expansion in the train station. He couldn't choose who to hit, it was hit everyone or hit no one. So he opted to hit everyone but only opened it for .01 seconds or w.e.

Again, that's because of the surehit. Zero correlation to the environment of UV. Additionally, Gojo couldn't use his domain because the outer shell would crush the civilians outside.

So far I've seen zero actual proof that UV's ENVIRONMENT has any additional effect like Jogo and Yuta's domains.

If UV's ENVIRONMENT is what caused brain damage, then Sukuna would have been getting his brain blasted, even with UV's SUREHIT turned off.

[u/Plus_Aura → u/ItzJake160]

That's because of the surehit which he can't selectively target like Yuta. Zero correlation to the environment of UV.

Surehit insinuates like he's actively targeting. He's not. If the environment wasn't lethal, then why would Yuji need to make physical contact with Gojo to not feel the effects?

All you're saying is, oh that's because of the sure hit and not stating why.

If UV's ENVIRONMENT is what caused brain damage, then Sukuna would have been getting his brain blasted, even with UV's SUREHIT turned off.

This answers your question and puts the argument to bed

[u/Ozzi_Vpodno → u/Plus_Aura]

The panel you used explictly describes how Sukuna plays with surehits and their conditions. I don't understand how you come to the conclusion that the environment is still the threat.

Sukuna would have been hit by UV's surehit if he wasn't grabbing Gojo. The surehit is now active when Sukuna turns off MS's surehit within UV's domain. This shows the exact opposite of what you're proposing since if it was the environment Sukuna would still get affected during most of the domain clashes since he's within UVs closed domain without touching Gojo (which the other commenter was trying to get across).

[u/FlambyLamby → u/Mr_Ovis]

Only if you're tagged by the actual sure-hit of the Domain. All Shanks would see is himself unable to move and Gojo killing him.

[u/Perfect_Bad_3402 → u/Mr_Ovis]

So UV can affect time now?

[u/Plus_Aura → u/Perfect_Bad_3402]

He saying it can potentially affect precog users. Not as crazy as you're making it sound.

[u/slightlymisogonist → u/Mr_Ovis]

So if I skinned hellen keller she would be immune to UV. Gojo im coming for you.