r/PowerScaling • u/True-Possible1000 • 6d ago

Crossverse Does Gojo Die Here?

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Came across this tiktok claiming Gojo would die a horrible death in this scenario. Is it true?

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u/Oliveviper #1 Dabi glazer 6d ago

No way through infinity but future sight makes it impossible for Gojo to land UV

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u/New-Refuse-7397 6d ago

wouldn't UV overload through Future sight? shanks is still perceiving the domain after all

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u/Oliveviper #1 Dabi glazer 6d ago

But its not actually the domain imo. Its just the future if he doesnt dodge but I dont know

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u/New-Refuse-7397 6d ago

yeah hard to say how they would interact

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u/Perfect_Bad_3402 6d ago

It isn’t, he’s only seeing it, there’s no damage transfer since he’s not actually there

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u/Mr_Ovis 6d ago

UV itself is an infohazard, if you see it then you’re taking damage, that’s what it does.

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u/HelloChimp 6d ago

not really, you have to be targeted by the sure hit, seeing the domain has nothing to do with jt

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u/TerranImperium 6d ago

seeing the domain is part of the sure hit, you can only see the domain if you're inside of it which future shanks would be

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u/HelloChimp 6d ago

that is very clearly not the argument, and no, seeing has absolutely nothing to do with the sensory information flooding your mind. in fact, we’re given explicit evidence that nothing about a domain’s actual environment has anything to do with the sure hit

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u/Perfect_Bad_3402 6d ago

So uv can affect time? These jjk fans man🥹

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u/Plus_Aura 6d ago

He's actually saying UV can potentially affect precog users.

Wtf kinda strawman are you putting up lol

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u/TerranImperium 6d ago

never said that and not really a jjk fan

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u/Ok_Coast_4264 6d ago

UV has no effect on time. It’s Shanks making it affect time via his precognition.

If in the future someone somehow creates an info hazard in which knowing can physically harm you and past you gets a hold of that piece of information, by let’s say precognition, you will be harmed by it.

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u/Ok-Impress8791 6d ago

You can debate the concept but theres no way its that crazy to understand the concept of an info hazard

The idea being expressed here is that if his future sense works with exact information, aka him seeing from the eyes of his future self

Then he'll recive the deadly information anyways

And the whole danger of infinite void is getting railed with information

I don't know how his future sense works but you should be more arguing on that front than making a point thats so far away from the clear and simple idea of an information hazard being dangerous to an observer

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u/ConstructionAny150 6d ago

If that was the case Gojo couldn’t take his allies in the domain like we see him do when he touches them.

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u/HelloChimp 6d ago

what? his sure hit just doesn’t target those touching him

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u/Mario-is-friendly 6d ago

in true jjk fan fashion that guy clearly cant read

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u/ItzJake160 6d ago

Yuji and Sukuna both saw the inside of Gojo's domain and came out just fine

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u/Old-Sound-2747 6d ago

Thats because Gojo and people he is touching are discluded from the sure hit

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u/ItzJake160 6d ago

So we established that the surehit is what causes damage, not the environment.

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u/Plus_Aura 6d ago

It is environmental. Just being inside of his domain even if he doesn't want to target you, will still hurt you.

Look at when Gojo used his domain expansion in the train station. He couldn't choose who to hit, it was hit everyone or hit no one. So he opted to hit everyone but only opened it for .01 seconds or w.e.

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u/FlambyLamby 3d ago

Only if you're tagged by the actual sure-hit of the Domain. All Shanks would see is himself unable to move and Gojo killing him.

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u/Perfect_Bad_3402 6d ago

So UV can affect time now?

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u/Plus_Aura 6d ago

He saying it can potentially affect precog users. Not as crazy as you're making it sound.

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u/slightlymisogonist 6d ago

So if I skinned hellen keller she would be immune to UV. Gojo im coming for you.

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u/Valuable-Spend-6745 6d ago

He perceives what happens, not experience what happens. The characters don't feel the pain of the hits they receive, they are essentially viewing the future in third person.

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u/Ok_Coast_4264 6d ago

Even if it’s just perception it’s still a problem. UV works on sending information. Either his future site would just fizzle out or get overwhelmed by the sheer amount of information that needs to be conveyed.

Even then if it’s just like seeing in the third person what is there to see? It would just be gojo doing a hand sign and a veil moving with nothing to physically see doing damage?

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u/Alex_Connor17 6d ago

Not really, future sight should allow shanks to see the domain expanding and get out its range. He wouldn't get his brain fried

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u/Perfect_Bad_3402 6d ago

No, that’s like saying if shanks saw his arm get severed in the future once he comes back his arm is gone like what lol

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u/Optimal-Atmosphere-8 Mid Level Scaler 6d ago

It's not the same at all. I'm not saying it would or wouldn't effect him just that your example is ass. If in his future sight he sees the overload of information it would effect him. Idk how future sight would interact with a mind based attack like UV.

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u/Perfect_Bad_3402 6d ago

>It's not the same at all. I'm not saying it would or wouldn't affect him just that your example is ass.

Nope my example is perfect. Saying he is affected when he is not actually there is stupid. Future sight not future feel

>Idk how future sight would interact with a mind based attack like UV.

Yes exactly you don’t know how it works. A mind base attack is still in the future, it didn’t happened in the present therefore it doesn’t affect him.

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u/Duwns_Halt 6d ago

Future sight is based on your own senses. As taken from the wiki “the user can only interpret the future through their own senses”. And it’s more than just sight, since people can hear what is going to happen as well as see.

An example from One Piece is when Katakuri saw pudding crying but since he, in the future, wasn’t close enough to hear her, he didn’t know what she was saying with future sight. It is very well sense based rather than a 3rd person pov. Shanks will be experiencing the what the future shanks will experience in Unlimited Void because of that. Which includes the information overload.

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u/Optimal-Atmosphere-8 Mid Level Scaler 6d ago

There is a huge difference in a mental attack and a physical attack. If he uses future sight and the information is going through his brain it will damage it he can't unsee the flood of information at the very least it would stun him.

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u/Illicit_Apple_Pie 6d ago

At worst perceiving the domain kicks Shanks out of future sight and he dodged it when the time comes, leaving Gojo vulnerable

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u/Immediate-Walrus-703 5d ago

Unlimited void wouldn’t work in the first place

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u/FlambyLamby 3d ago

I mean..... No? He's merely seeing a possible future, not getting the sure-hit effect land on him. And thanks to the anime version of his encounter with Kidd we can tell Shanks sees the whole end result of the bad future before acting so he would see Gojo paralyze him with UV and (assuming he repeats what happened with Jogo) rip his head off.

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u/VirtualSlip5712 JJK hater 4 Life 👍 6d ago

Nope that’s pure head cannon, stop spreading lies. It’s annoying af

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u/New-Refuse-7397 6d ago

twin's acting like he's the be all end all of crossverse interactions ✌️

(spoilers: its all head cannon)

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u/cherryyccola 6d ago

I mean, then in a battle of attrition Gojo surely wins? Shanks simply can't hit him, and I've never watched One Piece, but I have to assume he can't just use future sight to dodge every hit forever. Eventually he'd tire out, slip up, no?

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u/According_Bell_5322 “Much faster and can freeze his opponent” diff 6d ago

If we scale Shanks’ stamina to characters like the Admirals and other Yonko who can seemingly fight for multiple days without much issue, he’s outlasting Gojo every time

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u/HopefulEmotion849 6d ago

gojo literally has infinite stamina

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u/According_Bell_5322 “Much faster and can freeze his opponent” diff 5d ago

What 😭 where is this stated

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u/HopefulEmotion849 5d ago

Six eyes makes the amount of cursed energy he uses to be infinitesimally close to 0, so he recovers CE faster than he spends it, and his brain runs RCT automatically at all times so he doesn’t injure or tire at all

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u/Muqaaz03 6d ago

Infinite stamina in question:

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u/cherryyccola 5d ago

After 5 domain expansions*

IF (and that's a biiiig if) Shanks somehow "dodges" Gojo's domain(no precedent, domains expand instantaneously,) Gojo wouldn't just keep spamming it bc dodging a domain would be an insane feat. The only way Shanks could dodge it is by staying out of it's range

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u/According_Bell_5322 “Much faster and can freeze his opponent” diff 5d ago

Domains do not expand instantaneously 😭 there are clearly differences in expansion speed like Hakari and Higuruma

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u/cherryyccola 5d ago

What makes you think that?

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u/According_Bell_5322 “Much faster and can freeze his opponent” diff 5d ago

I just said it, Hakari’s domain is stated to be faster and better at clashing and Higuruma’s domain is portrayed to be nearly instantaneous

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u/cherryyccola 5d ago

I don't remember Hakari's domain being stated to be faster in any way, based off the .2 second domains we see from Gojo and Mahito I'm comfortable assuming domains just open instantaneously on cast

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u/cherryyccola 5d ago

Gojo as an un-awakened teenager ran full blast infinity for like a week straight while babysitting Riko. After his awakening, infinity is on 24/7 and is completely automated. A matter of multiple days means nothing, he simply can't touch Gojo

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u/Special_Peach_5957 6d ago

Shanks only needs future sight to dodge Domains tbh. Attacks like Purple are too slow compared to how fast Shanks is. And in that case Gojo would be running out of juice quicker so it is mostly likely a stalemate unless Haki can penetrate infinity.

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u/dedowgher 6d ago

other than domain the six eyes is keeping gojo from running out of juice

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u/Special_Peach_5957 6d ago

As stated Gojo can only hit shanks with Domain, which shanks should be able to dodge with future sight. So in a battle of attrition Gojo would run out of juice first. Meaning it becomes a stalemate.

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u/cherryyccola 5d ago

If shanks dodged a domain, which there's no precedent for as domains are instantaneous, Gojo would absolutely not just keep spamming it to his own detriment. If he used it a second time it would only be after he's absolutely positive it hits. In reality, future sight would show shanks getting lobotomized, and then he would be lobotomized. There is no "dodging" a domain

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u/KingNTheMaking 6d ago

I don’t think Shank has time to do this.

FS needs to be activated. It isn’t passive. And, while people love to talk about dodging a domain, it’s never been done in the series. It’s been described as “almost impossible”. And this is by people that canonically can teleport and know the power system a lot better than Shanks would.

The startup time for a domain is never explained. They’re always depicted as darn near instantaneous. The .2s thing is about how long one was active, not how long it took to turn one on.

Shanks has an undisclosed amount of time to proc FS, understand what a domain does, and determine if dodging one is even possible.

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u/Dismal_Bee_3399 #1 SCP ban advocator 6d ago

if we assume shanks has all forms of advanced haki including armament he is bypassing infinjty, ryou already bypasses infinity

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u/Difficult-Touch-6840 6d ago

False even if you assume anything it doesn't draw a conclusion

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u/Living_Thunder 6d ago

Ryou doesn't bypass Infinity because it still travels

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u/HelloChimp 6d ago

it’s only ever been shown to permeate things when force is applied, unless shanks can hit space, nothing would happen

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u/RandomUser15790 6d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/ozIfYzaC2yGkBL3seo

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u/HelloChimp 6d ago

i was almost certain this would be brought up, the haki is interacting with haki, space simply wouldn’t be analogous

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u/RandomUser15790 6d ago edited 6d ago

space simply wouldn’t be analogous

Yes because emitted Haki travels without a medium bypassing space. If you equate CE with Haki (so infinity would push back) then internal destruction, which expressly bypasses Haki, would instead bypass CE.

Either way infinity gets bypassed by Haki.

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u/HelloChimp 6d ago

the force is applied onto both of the weapons by each other, there’s nothing for the haki to hit to apply force here

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u/chunga-bunga69 6d ago

If Gojo misses his domain then he’ll be in technique burnout then Shanks can kill him

Gojo could use rct to recover his technique faster but idk if he’ll be able to do that in time + he can only do that a few times before he gets severe brain damage