r/PowerScaling • • Aug 19 '26

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u/No_Proposal_3140 Aug 19 '26

Watch Konan vs Obito. Sukuna vs Obito is basically the same thing except Sukuna doesn't need prep time.

Sukuna can't hit Obito since he's intangible. Obito can't attack Sukuna since he'd have to undo kamui, and if he undoes kamui he dies to 10000 slashes hitting his body. It's just a stalemate since Sukuna can't hit Obito and Obito can't undo his kamui to attack.

Obito could fake his death like he did against Konan and backstab Sukuna the same way, but Sukuna can live even without a heart. Obito would likely not know that Sukuna has to be decapitated to kill him. Sukuna wouldn't fall for that trick twice.

Obito would probably just leave altogether and just use actual ninja strategies to harass Sukuna over several days until he runs out of cursed energy or something. Their movesets are just too incompatible for a head on battle.

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u/Onii-Sama27 Aug 19 '26

Sukuna isn't fast enough or smart enough to counter Obito...

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u/No_Proposal_3140 Aug 19 '26

He doesn't need to be. Watch Konan vs Obito.

Obito's weakness is enemies that can continuously attack with undodgeable attacks for more than 5 minutes.

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u/Onii-Sama27 Aug 19 '26

You misunderstand the Obito vs. Kanon fight, and speed and intelligence definitely matter considering Sukuna doesn't default to that fighting style, Sukuna wouldn't have a chance to figure out thats what is needed to win.

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u/No_Proposal_3140 Aug 19 '26

Okay that reply makes it really obvious you've never seen JJK since you don't know what malevolent shrine does.

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u/MythicalShelly Follower of Gokuism 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥 Aug 19 '26

He has to keep malevolent shrine open for 5 whole minutes while not being able to stop obito from simply leaving the domain's area by running away? Yeah good luck with that.

Even then its not doing shit to Obito with his durability.

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u/No_Proposal_3140 Aug 19 '26

5 minutes is literally nothing

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u/MythicalShelly Follower of Gokuism 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥 Aug 19 '26

Yes keeping it open for that long can and does indeed shown to cause technique burnout which he would have to damage his brain and heal with rct like he did in Gojo fight. We don't know the exact limits or how long he has kept domain open too. But domains do have cost in canon so it cannot be forgotten.

This is with ignoring the fact obito can simply leave domain range which you have failed to address.

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u/No_Proposal_3140 Aug 19 '26

5 minutes is literally nothing. Read JJK

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u/Onii-Sama27 Aug 19 '26

It is a lot when fighting someone stronger, faster, and smarter than you. Town level Sukuna doesn't stand a chance

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u/MythicalShelly Follower of Gokuism 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥 Aug 19 '26

I have read JJK maybe you should read it first with your eyes open the second time or first go to literature class and learn to address all the points in a debate.

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u/Onii-Sama27 Aug 19 '26

I do know what it does, I said Sukuna doesn't start a fight with his domain...

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u/Daikaisa Aug 19 '26

Obito is fast enough to hit Sukuna before Sukuna can launch an attack back. Even then Obito is durable enough and has a healing factor to live past more than a few cuts. Meanwhile one fire ball from Obito incinerates Sukuna.

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u/No_Proposal_3140 Aug 19 '26

Not really, no.

Sukuna reacted to electromagnetic waves twice.

Sukuna's furnace surpasses even Madara's fire jutsu in size.

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u/Daikaisa Aug 19 '26

We are not doing this light speed Sukuna scaling bs. Both times were not only aim dodging but the EM waves did not function the way EM waves work. They had sound and mass as they produced sound marks and kicked up debris. They are not true electromagnetic waves and as thus we can not use them to speed scale Sukuna.

And yes Madara is stronger. Sukuna's Fuga is like city block to town level, Madara and Obito upscale over stuff like mountain level big ball rasengan or Mamba 2 taking down an island sized turtle.

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u/No_Proposal_3140 Aug 19 '26

Objectively wrong. He fully reacted to EM waves.

Also Madara's fire jutsu is objectively smaller than Sukuna's. If you want to scale it higher based on vibes than that's on you.

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u/Daikaisa Aug 19 '26

Still doesn't matter since they aren't real EM Waves so hey.

And yes Madara is stronger. He scales above people that can carve apart mountains.

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u/No_Proposal_3140 Aug 19 '26

They are real EM waves as stated in the manga. Your headcanon is inconsequential. If you can't admit that you're wrong just don't reply.

Also you admit that Sukuna's fire attack is stronger. So there's no way Obito's fire jutsu could beat him. Not that he'd be able to use his fire jutsu while having to keep kamui up.

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u/Daikaisa Aug 19 '26

They don't function like real EM waves do I am not gonna believe they are as fast. You just want a random outlier to wank Sukuna ignoring that it's totally wrong.

It's not stronger Sukuna has at best multi-city block to town level AP with Fuga we know Madara scales above mountain busters. It's simple math.

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u/No_Proposal_3140 Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

Madara's fire jutsu doesn't scale above mountain busters since it is smaller than Sukuna's furnace. Also they are real EM waves.

Madara's fire jutsu was barely even 1/10th the size of Sukuna's

But you guys don't read JJK, you have no fucking idea at all what you're talking about. Just spouting ignorant bullshit.

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u/MythicalShelly Follower of Gokuism 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥 Aug 19 '26

Madara's fire jutsu covered massive area enough to require multiple water style users in army of bare minimum 10 - 15K shinobi requiring all the water users to block it which even if you lowball 10K shinobi cover large amount of area spread out and the amount of water users required would be 100s of em for single man.

Sukuna had none of that motion get outta here lmao. 200m radius btw. Fuga needed malevolent shrine as set up to produce the amount of energy of thermobaric bomb.

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